Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Ginger n Lemon

average_runner wrote: »

They have no evidence on how the increase happened from Level 5 to Level 3.


Twice they opened the restaurants and the barbers and cases went up. It might not be related to them, but something caused it

Imagine that. Causing 20% + unemployment in the state with no evidence. Only in 2020


Sorry I forgot - you posted it. You arent genuine, restaurants re opened on 29th of June and there was no increases in cases until mandatory masks were introduced in shops on 10th of August.

Micky 32

murpho999 wrote: »

Again why can't you link that what you perceive as low numbers is directly connected to the restrictions.

If the country (and rest of Europe) had been put in full lockdown for 6 months in March then we'd probably be in better shape.

Wuhan did it and life is pretty normal there now but people here wouldn't have it and we're in this continuous cycle of restrictions, ease them, restrictions ease them etc.

I hope you’re practicing what you’re preaching? I’m assuming you have put yourself and your family in a bolted up door style lockdown like they did in Wuhan? So you are in total lockdown? I will assume you are because of your strong view on it.

average_runner

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Imagine that. Causing 20% + unemployment in the state with no evidence. Only in 2020

Well i think we all know its not them causing it, instead people increased their social circle. But people aren't providing all the info to HSE when they test positive.


So no choice really, just lock it down. Until we all play ball we will never get anywhere

Elmer Blooker

The domestic violence that is now inevitable throughout the country over the xmas/new year period is frightening and will not be pleasant but that won't bother our betters in Dublin 4.
Meanwhile those who make the decisions are and have been on full pay since March.
Apparently you can't catch this deadly virus at 2.55 on xmas eve but are likely to get it at 3.05!
There has been no science whatsoever behind these restrictions over the past nine months.

Allinall

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Imagine that. Causing 20% + unemployment in the state with no evidence. Only in 2020

No. It will run into 2021, until we get a majority vaccinated.

The biggest joke is the review on 12th Jan...

We have lots of evidence now that lockdown doesn’t work unless you stay locked down.

So just f*cking stop with the nonsense “for 3 weeks”.

Trying to keep the public onside with clear lies.

Ginger n Lemon

Allinall wrote: »

No. It will run into 2021, until we get a majority vaccinated.

I was hoping you ll say "until there is evidence".

average_runner

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

The domestic violence that is now inevitable throughout the country over the xmas/new year period is frightening and will not be pleasant but that won't bother our betters in Dublin 4.
Meanwhile those who make the decisions are and have been on full pay since March.
Apparently you can't catch this deadly virus at 2.55 on xmas eve but are likely to get it at 3.05!
There has been no science whatsoever behind these restrictions over the past nine months.

Domestic Violence happens at xmas more than ever. Lockdown or no lockdown will stop it sadly.


2019 December was the highest pre covid

Boggles

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

There has been no science whatsoever behind these restrictions over the past nine months.

Less restrictions virus instance rate goes up

More restrictions virus instance rate goes down.

#science

Allinall

Deleted User wrote: »

The biggest joke is the review on 12th Jan...

We have lots of evidence now that lockdown doesn’t work unless you stay locked down.

So just f*cking stop with the nonsense “for 3 weeks”.

Trying to keep the public onside with clear lies.

Do you want us in lockdown indefinitely?

That's a turn up for the books.

average_runner

Deleted User wrote: »

The biggest joke is the review on 12th Jan...

We have lots of evidence now that lockdown doesn’t work unless you stay locked down.

So just f*cking stop with the nonsense “for 3 weeks”.

Trying to keep the public onside with clear lies.

Yep nothing else stops the cases from rising. So lockdown till April

Allinall

Allinall wrote: »

Do you want us in lockdown indefinitely?

That's a turn up for the books.

Absolutely not!

But that appears to be plan. And many people working full time support it as well.

Ginger n Lemon

Boggles wrote: »

Less restrictions virus instance rate goes up

More restrictions virus instance rate goes down.

#science

Jaysus Boggles that doesnt seem to reflect reality. Barely any restrictions mid June to mid August yet virus instance was on the floor.

Try harder.

sporina

so.. i am traveling home tomorrow for xmas... going from one county to another (4 hrs away)...

now.. no inter county travel after the 26th...

had planned to return on the 27th... is that ok now or do I have to stay there until the inter county travel ban is lifted?

its not v clear...

ACitizenErased

The government has gone completely against EU recommendations by extending the travel ban.
https://twitter.com/danielferrie/status/1341373505192022018?s=21

Ginger n Lemon

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolutely not!

But that appears to be plan. And many people working full time support it as well.

In fairness most of those many people are either WFH keyboard warriors or public sector workers who are completely unaffected.

We have an extremely messed up society. "If it doesnt affect me, its alright". This thread is great reflection of it, unfortunately.

average_runner

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Jaysus Boggles that doesnt seem to reflect reality. Barely any restrictions mid June to mid August yet virus instance was on the floor.

Try harder.

26th of june they opened, 14th of July cases started to rise.
Now considering it was summer and we were outside more instead of inside, would explain the slower growth, but they did start to rise two weeks after they opened

Accidentally

Just to be clear. If you live in Northern Ireland, can you still wander freely around the Republic after the 26th?

average_runner

Accidentally wrote: »

Just to be clear. If you live in Northern Ireland, can you still wander freely around the Republic after the 26th?

We have no authority over the north and apparently no balls to shut the border

average_runner

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

In fairness most of those many people are either WFH keyboard warriors or public sector workers who are completely unaffected.

We have an extremely messed up society. "If it doesnt affect me, its alright". This thread is great reflection of it, unfortunately.

And that attitude during level 3 got us back to level 5.

TomTomTim

average_runner wrote: »

26th of june they opened, 14th of July cases started to rise.
Now considering it was summer and we were outside more instead of inside, would explain the slower growth, but they did start to rise two weeks after they opened

It rained most of the summer.

murpho999

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

“Hold a position of authority”

How does he hold that?

He advises the the Government cabinet directly on national medical matters.

How is that not a position of authority?

average_runner

TomTomTim wrote: »

It rained most of the summer.

People were still out and about more and on holidays throughout the country

TheTruth123

average_runner wrote: »

We have no authority over the north and apparently no balls to shut the border

Explain how we can shut the border? What about medical staff in Cavan, Armagh, Monaghan for example who will go in and out of the north multiple times just to get from home to work. Is every border crossing going to be closed (including private roads)

average_runner

TheTruth123 wrote: »

Explain how we can shut the border? What about medical staff in Cavan, Armagh, Monaghan for example who will go in and out of the north multiple times just to get from home to work. Is every border crossing going to be closed (including private roads)

How did the bigger countries in Europe manage to do it? Our boarder is tiny compare to others.

Gael23

sporina wrote: »

so.. i am traveling home tomorrow for xmas... going from one county to another (4 hrs away)...

now.. no inter county travel after the 26th...

had planned to return on the 27th... is that ok now or do I have to stay there until the inter county travel ban is lifted?

its not v clear...

No you dont but when you leave on the 27th you cant go back

josip

Expect restrictions to stay in place for next two months - Varadkar

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1222/1185905-rte-live-news-blog/

See you all in February

Ginger n Lemon

average_runner wrote: »

26th of june they opened, 14th of July cases started to rise.
Now considering it was summer and we were outside more instead of inside, would explain the slower growth, but they did start to rise two weeks after they opened

Can you define that in bold?

I see that in 8 weeks of the summer there were 1,500 cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ireland/

How many cases since 4th Dec? 8,000? in 3 weeks.

You are extremely disingenuous, this is my last reply to you.

TheTruth123

average_runner wrote: »

How did the bigger countries in Europe manage to do it? Our boarder is tiny compare to others.

Theres more border crossings in Ireland than any country in Europe

suicide_circus

josip wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1222/1185905-rte-live-news-blog/

See you all in February

**** this