Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Captain_Crash

the kelt wrote: »

Alan Kelly has asked will the HSE and NPHET be providing daily numbers in regards to how many people have been vaccinated along with the daily gloom of deaths and cases ye know to provide a little bit of positivity.

This should be interesting

That would mean they have to be accountable! Fat chance in that happening!

JRant

JRant wrote: »

And yet, here we are multiple threads in and you've provided nothing but snotty one liners the entire time. That's impressive.

Most of the sh*te on this thread is not worthy of anything but snotty one liners. Come up with a coherent fact based argument and see how we go

cityboyjim

Shocking place to be .Opposition

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Most of the sh*te on this thread is not worthy of anything but snotty one liners. Come up with a coherent fact based argument and see how we go

This is not aimed at you specifically, but I don’t understand why people visit this thread if they think the opinions are all sh*te or conspiracies or lunatics etc.

Several people over last few days have said the same sort of thing.

And as much as people might disagree with it, there are lots of doctors, experts and politicians etc that disagree with lockdowns and restrictions.

oldtimeyfella

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Translation: “I’m elderly and retired and therefore most of these restrictions don’t affect me, lockdown everything **** everyone else.”

I'm in my 30s and a frontline worker who has been working 45+ hours a week during this entire thing arguing with clowns who think "it's just de flu" so restrictions and guidelines don't apply to them.


Difference is i give a **** about the medically vulnerable and elderly rather than the simpletons who are more worried about their few scaldy overpriced pints of piss, trivial little getaways and shopping sprees for utterly unnecessary trinkets.

Penfailed

JRant wrote: »

Full Level 5 with the 5km restrictions. Schools closed for an extra week because "reasons". No review date given but it's for at least one full month, so an indefinite lockdown unfortunately.

Ballz.

growleaves

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is not aimed at you specifically, but I don’t understand why people visit this thread if they think the opinions are all sh*te or conspiracies or lunatics etc.

Several people over last few days have said the same sort of thing.

And as much as people might disagree with it, there are lots of doctors, experts and politicians etc that disagree with lockdowns and restrictions.

I think I understand.

As we go into lockdown IV most ordinary people are tired, miserable and demotivated.

I perceive belief in the prison-lockdown regime is slipping. I can't prove this, its just a feeling.

There seems to be little real panic even though the official line is that we're now in a more dangerous situation than back in March. Does *anyone* - including Martin, who said it - truly believe that?

Supporters of the restrictions on here are feeling frustrated I think hence they're expressing their disdain even more forcefully than usual.

HBC08

retro:electro wrote: »

I’m just completely fed up in all honesty. I’ve avoided this whole forum for weeks now because I just can’t take any of it any more. I don’t want to read the updates and I don’t want to watch the news. I’m a strong person and believe me when I say I’ve been though much worse in my life, but I’m not sure how much more of this I can take. I’m beyond depressed now with it all. It’s just endless. To think we have another 2/3 months of this ****storm ahead. I’m done in, in all honesty. I just can’t believe this is still going on

Yep,it's sh1t and there's no point pretending anything else.
I'm particularly going to miss my healthy January,I reckon I'll drink though this lockdown.
At the same time adults need to be grown ups and get through it.

Captain_Crash

growleaves wrote: »

I think I understand.

As we go into lockdown IV most ordinary people are tired, miserable and demotivated.

I perceive belief in the prison-lockdown regime is slipping. I can't prove this, its just a feeling.

There seems to be little real panic even though the official line is that we're now in a more dangerous situation than back in March. Does *anyone* - including Martin, who said it - truly believe that?

Supporters of the restrictions on here are feeling frustrated I think hence they're expressing their disdain even more forcefully than usual.

I actually agree with this, most are sick of it. Even my aul fella, in the most high risk group of all just says f**k this and wants to live his life! He’s been lucky enough not to stop working either so atleast he has something to keep himself occupied!

I’ve also found that this thread has been frequented by the same number of people over the last few weeks, but once news broke of a full Level 5 all sorts of pro lockdowners appeared out of nowhere, I kind of feel that the more someone shouts the more they are doing it to convince themselves of what they’re saying as opposed to who they’re saying it to (this applies to both sides of the fence), and the “pro lockdowners” have reached a new level on this thread of glee in the news, which makes me think that to them it’s more about the misery of others than it is public health!

I don’t think I’ve ever seen more division in the public than I have lately! In this together my a*se!!

Lundstram

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

I'm in my 30s and a frontline worker who has been working 45+ hours a week during this entire thing arguing with clowns who think "it's just de flu" so restrictions and guidelines don't apply to them.


Difference is i give a **** about the medically vulnerable and elderly rather than the simpletons who are more worried about their few scaldy overpriced pints of piss, trivial little getaways and shopping sprees for utterly unnecessary trinkets.

This line it thrown out so much by the lockdown brigade. Every single time.

You think this is about a few pints? A bit of shopping? I couldn't give a fcuk about either. I enjoy the odd pint but by no means a hardened pintman.

I miss sh1tty little trivial things like seeing my close family. I miss them so much. I miss my friends. I miss socialising. I miss playing sport. I miss being able to leave my county. Now I'll miss being able to leave my village. I miss travelling. I miss my freedom.

Now, imagine throwing unemployment into the mix, I honestly would not cope. Financially or mentally. As you say yourself, your job is not in jeopardy. All very easy to cry for lockdown then. You'd change your tune if you weren't in some comfy PS job.

Enough of your waffle of this all being about a few pints or a trip to Penney's.

You cry tears about the vulnerable in one breath yet on the other you give two fingers to the rest of us.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

oldtimeyfella

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

I'm in my 30s and a frontline worker who has been working 45+ hours a week during this entire thing arguing with clowns who think "it's just de flu" so restrictions and guidelines don't apply to them.


Difference is i give a **** about the medically vulnerable and elderly rather than the simpletons who are more worried about their few scaldy overpriced pints of piss, trivial little getaways and shopping sprees for utterly unnecessary trinkets.

Being a frontline worker doesn't excuse such bitterness and lack of empathy.

While I have always been a believer in lighter/ lesser restrictions and felt the Government and NPHET have reacted in such a heavy handed way by the amount of lockdowns and business closures we've had.... I also understand the other side, I understand the fear in some people, I've seen it in my own family even though I'm not like that myself. I even get the points a lot of "lockdown" posters make, its good to look at this from both sides, there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Like another poster on here all day long calling people morons and simpletons, you are at it too, we're all morons and clowns just because we don't agree with you. After 10 months of this I think people are perfectly entitled to their own opinion! This is affecting everyone differently.

SusieBlue

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

I'm in my 30s and a frontline worker who has been working 45+ hours a week during this entire thing arguing with clowns who think "it's just de flu" so restrictions and guidelines don't apply to them.


Difference is i give a **** about the medically vulnerable and elderly rather than the simpletons who are more worried about their few scaldy overpriced pints of piss, trivial little getaways and shopping sprees for utterly unnecessary trinkets.

Difference is I give a sh*t about protecting the well-being and balancing the needs of everyone, and nuking the economy with hundreds of thousands of jobs along with it isn’t a proportionate response to the threat.
Particularly when there is little to no evidence that those industries are responsible for the upsurge in cases.
The upsurge in cases is due to hospital/nursing home/direct provision outbreaks and families mixing over Christmas.
It has nothing to do with gyms & hairdressers.

You clearly have yourself down as some sort of modern day superhero, fighting to save the lives of the elderly and vulnerable while the ‘simpletons’ cry about their pints, but your sanctimonious posts about how employees in the retail, transportation and hospitality industries will continue to work & keep their jobs through the lockdowns show that you are so far removed from the financial impacts of the last few months, that you’re clueless to the severe struggles people are now facing cause of these decisions.

Your empathy for the vulnerable & elderly seems fake & hollow when you sneer & dismiss other people’s concerns & personal circumstances so flippantly. Everyone matters, and the needs of everyone need to be balanced.
Easy to be so flippant and self righteous when you’re in a secure job and don’t need to worry about your job being gone for an indefinite amount of time at a moments notice, though.

oldtimeyfella

Lundstram wrote: »

This line it thrown out so much by the lockdown brigade. Every single time.

You think this is about a few pints? A bit of shopping? I couldn't give a fcuk about either. I enjoy the odd pint but by no means a hardened pintman.

I miss sh1tty little trivial things like seeing my close family. I miss them so much. I miss my friends. I miss socialising. I miss playing sport. I miss being able to leave my county. Now I'll miss being able to leave my village. I miss travelling. I miss my freedom.

Now, imagine throwing unemployment into the mix, I honestly would not cope. Financially or mentally. As you say yourself, your job is not in jeopardy. All very easy to cry for lockdown then. You'd change your tune if you weren't in some comfy PS job.

Enough of your waffle of this all being about a few pints or a trip to Penney's.

You cry tears about the vulnerable in one breath yet on the other you give two fingers to the rest of us.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Comfy PS job?


I'm a frontline worker working 45+ hours a week spending huge chunk of it getting threatened with physical violence trying to enforce restrictions dreamt up by someone who has been at home since March.



My shifts are morning, noon or night. I got 2 days off at Christmas and i consider myself lucky because at least i'm not one of the poor ****ers watching people die in a hospital drowning in their own fluids on Christmas Day.


That 30-odd social contact stat that is being batted around in this forum has my head spinning because i've seen one of my friends once since March and i've seen my elderly parents maybe 5 times total this year and one time was a prison visit through a car window in a car park. I spent a few hours with them on Christmas Day, feeling guilty the whole time and left telling them that i didn't know when i'd see them again.



Sport and travel are such utter trivilaties at the best of times that i haven't even thought about them in the current climate. All that twaddle should be suspended until this is over.



I feel bad for the people who ended up unemployed but some people need to realise that their jobs depend on copious consumption so they are by their very nature precarious.


I'm not looking fer sympathy because i have friends who work in hospitals who are at the real real frontline of this thing and the stories they tell me just make me hate the dip****s looking to "go back to normal" even more.



Things aren't normal, they won't be for a while. Nut up and do your part and stop whinging about not being able to do trivial ****e.

Don't Chute!

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

I'm in my 30s and a frontline worker who has been working 45+ hours a week during this entire thing arguing with clowns who think "it's just de flu" so restrictions and guidelines don't apply to them.


Difference is i give a **** about the medically vulnerable and elderly rather than the simpletons who are more worried about their few scaldy overpriced pints of piss, trivial little getaways and shopping sprees for utterly unnecessary trinkets.

Frontline worker? I don’t believe that for a second. Probably “immuno-comprised” as well like everyone seems to be since this started.

Don't Chute!

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Comfy PS job?


I'm a frontline worker working 45+ hours a week spending huge chunk of it getting threatened with physical violence trying to enforce restrictions dreamt up by someone who has been at home since March.



My shifts are morning, noon or night. I got 2 days off at Christmas and i consider myself lucky because at least i'm not one of the poor ****ers watching people die in a hospital drowning in their own fluids on Christmas Day.


That 30-odd social contact stat that is being batted around in this forum has my head spinning because i've seen one of my friends once since March and i've seen my elderly parents maybe 5 times total this year and one time was a prison visit through a car window in a car park. I spent a few hours with them on Christmas Day, feeling guilty the whole time and left telling them that i didn't know when i'd see them again.



Sport and travel are such utter trivilaties at the best of times that i haven't even thought about them in the current climate. All that twaddle should be suspended until this is over.



I feel bad for the people who ended up unemployed but some people need to realise that their jobs depend on copious consumption so they are by their very nature precarious.


I'm not looking fer sympathy because i have friends who work in hospitals who are at the real real frontline of this thing and the stories they tell me just make me hate the dip****s looking to "go back to normal" even more.



Things aren't normal, they won't be for a while. Nut up and do your part and stop whinging about not being able to do trivial ****e.

For a fella that’s working 45 hours plus a week you seem to have an awful lot of time to spend here arguing with “morons” and “dip****s”.

Lundstram

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Comfy PS job?


I'm a frontline worker working 45+ hours a week spending huge chunk of it getting threatened with physical violence trying to enforce restrictions dreamt up by someone who has been at home since March.



My shifts are morning, noon or night. I got 2 days off at Christmas and i consider myself lucky because at least i'm not one of the poor ****ers watching people die in a hospital drowning in their own fluids on Christmas Day.


That 30-odd social contact stat that is being batted around in this forum has my head spinning because i've seen one of my friends once since March and i've seen my elderly parents maybe 5 times total this year and one time was a prison visit through a car window in a car park. I spent a few hours with them on Christmas Day, feeling guilty the whole time and left telling them that i didn't know when i'd see them again.



Sport and travel are such utter trivilaties at the best of times that i haven't even thought about them in the current climate. All that twaddle should be suspended until this is over.



I feel bad for the people who ended up unemployed but some people need to realise that their jobs depend on copious consumption so they are by their very nature precarious.


I'm not looking fer sympathy because i have friends who work in hospitals who are at the real real frontline of this thing and the stories they tell me just make me hate the dip****s looking to "go back to normal" even more.



Things aren't normal, they won't be for a while. Nut up and do your part and stop whinging about not being able to do trivial ****e.

If your posts on here represent your real life personality, I'm not surprised a huge chunk of your day is spent being threatened with physical violence.

If you think sport which keeps people healthy and mentally fit is trivial then our frontline staff need retraining.

Your lack of empathy is startling for a so called HCP. I have my doubts you are one, though. I really hope you're not.

HBC08

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Being a frontline worker doesn't excuse such bitterness and lack of empathy.

While I have always been a believer in lighter/ lesser restrictions and felt the Government and NPHET have reacted in such a heavy handed way by the amount of lockdowns and business closures we've had.... I also understand the other side, I understand the fear in some people, I've seen it in my own family even though I'm not like that myself. I even get the points a lot of "lockdown" posters make, its good to look at this from both sides, there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Like another poster on here all day long calling people morons and simpletons, you are at it too, we're all morons and clowns just because we don't agree with you. After 10 months of this I think people are perfectly entitled to their own opinion! This is affecting everyone differently.

Put those arguments in any other thread,you'll soon get a reasonable arguement if youre a simpleton or a moran .

oldtimeyfella

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Frontline worker? I don’t believe that for a second. Probably “immuno-comprised” as well like everyone seems to be since this started.

Don't Chute! wrote: »

For a fella that’s working 45 hours plus a week you seem to have an awful lot of time to spend here arguing with “morons” and “dip****s”.

I had a really abrasive reply typed up for these posts but i deleted it because it would have got me threadbanned.


All i say is that it's people like you that have finally driven in that last nail that convinces me that you see workers in shops/public services/hospitals/law enforcement as expendable mannequins.

oldtimeyfella

Lundstram wrote: »

If you think sport which keeps people healthy and mentally fit is trivial then our frontline staff need retraining.

People playing games is completely trivial and my job is in the real world so they don't train us in any aspect of grown adults chasing a ball around a field to feel happy.


I see your avatar is some grown man that plays litertal childrens games for a living so i don't expect you'll understand how completely pointless that is.

growleaves

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

People playing games is completely trivial and my job is in the real world so they don't train us in any aspect of grown adults chasing a ball around a field to feel happy.


I see your avatar is some grown man that plays litertal childrens games for a living so i don't expect you'll understand how completely pointless that is.

Lol

FintanMcluskey

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

I see your avatar is some grown man that plays litertal childrens games for a living so i don't expect you'll understand how completely pointless that is.

What has the avatar got to do with the price of turnips in this argument?

Lundstram

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

People playing games is completely trivial and my job is in the real world so they don't train us in any aspect of grown adults chasing a ball around a field to feel happy.


I see your avatar is some grown man that plays litertal childrens games for a living so i don't expect you'll understand how completely pointless that is.

“literal childrens games”.. Ok now I know you’re no HCP.

And leave Mr. Lundstram out of this, he’s a legend.

Poorside

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

People playing games is completely trivial and my job is in the real world so they don't train us in any aspect of grown adults chasing a ball around a field to feel happy.


I see your avatar is some grown man that plays litertal childrens games for a living so i don't expect you'll understand how completely pointless that is.

Can I ask what is a grown mans game?

oldtimeyfella

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

What has the avatar got to do with the price of turnips in this argument?

He's arguing that sports (playing games) are a thing that needs to happen in the middle of a (hopefullly) once in a lifetime pandemic because of "muh mental health!" whilst displaying an avatar of his #1 Grown Adult That Plays A Game For a Living.


I got into a similar argument with some guy that moderates the sport and rugby forums who had his favourite rugbyman as his avatar earlier today.


There are people drowning in their own fluids in ICU beds and people are still arguing that their favourite version of Chase The Ball should be going ahead in the middle of a pandemic because of the catch-all mental health bull****.

oldtimeyfella

Poorside wrote: »

Can I ask what is a grown mans game?

Nothing.

oldtimeyfella

Lundstram wrote: »

“literal childrens games”.. Ok now I know you’re no HCP.

And leave Mr. Lundstram out of this, he’s a legend.

HCP?

Lundstram

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

HCP?

You just proved my point. Thank you very much.

HBC08

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is not aimed at you specifically, but I don’t understand why people visit this thread if they think the opinions are all sh*te or conspiracies or lunatics etc.

Several people over last few days have said the same sort of thing.

And as much as people might disagree with it, there are lots of doctors, experts and politicians etc that disagree with lockdowns and restrictions.

Ah Jac,youre back!
You were very quiet for a while there.

normanoffside

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

I'm in my 30s and a frontline worker who has been working 45+ hours a week during this entire thing arguing with clowns who think "it's just de flu" so restrictions and guidelines don't apply to them.


Difference is i give a **** about the medically vulnerable and elderly rather than the simpletons who are more worried about their few scaldy overpriced pints of piss, trivial little getaways and shopping sprees for utterly unnecessary trinkets.

This is such rubbish.
I help organise a little weekly 5k run/walk in the local park every weekend.
It had built up from 40 to more recently 300 people each week over the past 4 years.
People of all ages getting out once a week to do a once weekly bit of healthy exercise and outdoor socialising. People of all ages. Many of them elderly or lonely who had no social outlet other than that once a week event.
Loads volunteering too and helping out, it had built a real sense of local community and given many a purpose to get out and meet people for the first time in years while keeping/getting fit.

That's been gone now since March. A lot of people's health (both mental and physical) have been badly affected by this all.

I am certain that the health benefits of lockdown do not in any way outweigh the deficits caused by it.

oldtimeyfella

Lundstram wrote: »

You just proved my point. Thank you very much.

Proved what? I googled it and i guess you might be referring to Health Care Professional which is something that i never claimed to be


There are more frontline workers than people working in healthcare. Also, every sinlge one of those healthcare workers are worth more than a hundred of whatever Grown Man that Plays With a Fun Ball that you worship.