Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

meath4sam

VonLuck wrote: »

Nonsense. Where are you getting that figure?

Intel Facebook Amazon children’s hospital all looking to remain open they are the biggest sites in the country

jams100

They must be asleep at that briefing, your man Nolan is soo boring, such a monotone voice, always comes across as a pessimist, even when numbers were improving

VonLuck

meath4sam wrote: »

Intel Facebook Amazon children’s hospital all looking to remain open they are the biggest sites in the country

How many construction workers are on those sites compared to the non-essential sites?

normanoffside

Lashes28 wrote: »

Are takeout pints ok or not?

They are hoping to ban it by dirty looks, finger wagging and twitter videos

meath4sam

VonLuck wrote: »

How many construction workers are on those sites compared to the non-essential sites?

I didn’t count them but with the biggest sites in the country open and then all pharma projects to continue. My estimate of 50% won’t be far off if they are let continue.

CruelSummer

Dr Holohan is talking about how the virus loves alcohol at the conference again...will they be curbing alcohol sales?

I think the thing that pis*es everyone off about the restrictions is the constant changing and “reviewing”.

They were announcing before Christmas that level 5 was returning. As soon as it returned, they were already have meetings and kite flying further restrictions.

Then they announce those restrictions. Now Leo is harping on today about further restrictions. He was saying about maybe restrictions around off licenses and times you can buy alcohol. And then saying businesses should prepare to be closed for the entire first quarter.

This just makes people angry. Come up with a plan and at least give it a chance. January is a dead month anyways. Numbers would drop without lockdown.

CruelSummer

CruelSummer wrote: »

Dr Holohan is talking about how the virus loves alcohol at the conference again...will they be curbing alcohol sales?

Be hilarious if they tried a full ban. The rush on supermarkets and off licenses would be insane.

And I imagine there would be severe backlash. If there is one thing that will get people out on the streets it is that.

Even their own back benches and media would turn on them.

suicide_circus

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s easy to find out for yourself. And if you bothered you would see more than 0.1% of the population of Florida have already died and they are running at 15k cases per day and rising

Much easier to get yourself to do the grunt work though isnt it, your posts are so abrasive

Idbatterim

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

There’s been a lot of suffering and lockdowns for a pandemic with very few excess deaths. The penny will drop at some point, we have a lot of paid politicians who’ll be more than aware of this. Kind of takes the wind out of the COVID cheerleaders sails though. Here we are in level 5 lockdown again. Mind boggling.

This level of lockdown again, pup payment until at least end of March. A glacially slow vaccine rollout. The next few budgets will be very interesting!

suicide_circus

Idbatterim wrote: »

This level of lockdown again, pup payment until at least end of March. A glacially slow vaccine rollout. The next few budgets will be very interesting!

Have you not been paying attention? You can borrow indefinitely now with no repercussions!

Grandeeod

Idbatterim wrote: »

This level of lockdown again, pup payment until at least end of March. A glacially slow vaccine rollout. The next few budgets will be very interesting!

I'm gonna go off topic with you, but I just want to remind you of something. You will remember me from talking about things like Metro North/link or whatever its called these days along with DART Underground. Here's your proof that they never ever had any intention of building them. Billions borrowed to keep the country afloat during this pandemic. We always had the capability to pay for that infrastructure pre covid. However we will not have the capability to do it now. Sorry for the off topic post, but if I mentioned it in the infrastructure threads I'd get the usual head in the clouds guff.

That said, I run a business that has been decimated by lockdowns and I'm surviving on the PUP handout. Its demoralising.

GazzaL

Lashes28 wrote: »

Are takeout pints ok or not?

weldoninhio wrote: »

Not banned, so depends if your local opens.

Definitely not banned, I'm sipping on one right now :pac:

pjohnson

Idbatterim wrote: »

This level of lockdown again, pup payment until at least end of March. A glacially slow vaccine rollout. The next few budgets will be very interesting!

The next two budgets are crucial wouldya say?

facehugger99

suicide_circus wrote: »

Have you not been paying attention? You can borrow indefinitely now with no repercussions!

Combined with the fact that once we defeat Covid, nobody will ever die again and the future looks amazing.

FintanMcluskey

facehugger99 wrote: »

Combined with the fact that once we defeat Covid, nobody will ever die again and the future looks amazing.

That only 2000 people died in 2020 in Ireland is a staggering achievement in itself

Once long Covid is confined to the medical encyclopaedia we shall live eternally in perpetual bliss

The only currency we will need is love

hmmm

Deleted User wrote: »

Come up with a plan and at least give it a chance. January is a dead month anyways. Numbers would drop without lockdown.

You don't "give things a chance" when the numbers hospitalised are going up by 10% a day.

They "gave things a chance" before Christmas, and we were told by all the anti-lockdown people that people that things would be fine and people would exercise their common sense, and here we are now in a disgraceful situation.

We need to get back to doing what we know works - closing indoor venues where super-spread happens, and stop listening to the "open everything" and the "close everything" advocates.

pjohnson

hmmm wrote: »

You don't "give things a chance" when the numbers hospitalised are going up by 10% a day.

They "gave things a chance" before Christmas, and we were told by all the anti-lockdown people that people that things would be fine and people would exercise their common sense, and here we are now in a disgraceful situation.

Letting the anti-lockdown people inflict their common sense was the whole problem. That wont happen again they blew their chance.

JRant

pjohnson wrote: »

The next two budgets are crucial wouldya say?

Jaysus PJ, have you lost your touch, that was genuinely funny

FintanMcluskey

hmmm wrote: »

You don't "give things a chance" when the numbers hospitalised are going up by 10% a day.

They "gave things a chance" before Christmas, and we were told by all the anti-lockdown people that people that things would be fine and people would exercise their common sense, and here we are now in a disgraceful situation.

We need to get back to doing what we know works - closing indoor venues where super-spread happens,and stop listening to the "open everything" and the "close everything" advocates.

What indoor venues were accountable for super spreader events?

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

You don't "give things a chance" when the numbers hospitalised are going up by 10% a day.

They "gave things a chance" before Christmas, and we were told by all the anti-lockdown people that people that things would be fine and people would exercise their common sense, and here we are now in a disgraceful situation.

We need to get back to doing what we know works - closing indoor venues where super-spread happens, and stop listening to the "open everything" and the "close everything" advocates.

You misread my post and I don’t care to engage on the anti lockdown stuff.

I don’t care what their plan is, but just stick to it!!!

Announcing restrictions and then kite flying new restrictions 2 days later is retarded.

They’ve finally gotten public buy in and now they are harping on about “virus loves alcohol” and talking about restrictions on off licenses.

They’ll lose the support very quickly again at this rate.

Dr. Bre

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Be hilarious if they tried a full ban. The rush on supermarkets and off licenses would be insane.

And I imagine there would be severe backlash. If there is one thing that will get people out on the streets it is that.

Even their own back benches and media would turn on them.[/quot

Prohibition would send this country insane

Mr. Karate

pjohnson wrote: »

The next two budgets are crucial wouldya say?

Make sure to have plenty of Vaseline on hand because we're getting screwed good and hard come Oct.

FintanMcluskey

Deleted User wrote: »

They’ve finally gotten public buy in and now they are harping on about “virus loves alcohol” and talking about restrictions on off licenses.

They’ll lose the support very quickly again at this rate.

At least it’s now evident Covid was not the only agenda

https://alcoholireland.ie/dr-tony-holohan-chief-medical-officer-delivers-the-opening-address-at-alcohol-action-irelands-have-we-bottled-it-alcohol-marketing-and-young-people-conference/

“ Somehow we have let ourselves believe that alcohol is not really a problem in Ireland. We are complacent. We choose to ignore evidence of the huge and avoidable extent of the problem that alcohol wreaks on our society.”

facehugger99

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

What indoor venues were accountable for super spreader events?

People were hanging out on construction sites and drapery stores throughout Christmas.

Caused the spike in numbers apparently.

Tony and the Government had to act.

Thank God they did - we're safe once more.

JRant

hmmm wrote: »

You don't "give things a chance" when the numbers hospitalised are going up by 10% a day.

They "gave things a chance" before Christmas, and we were told by all the anti-lockdown people that people that things would be fine and people would exercise their common sense, and here we are now in a disgraceful situation.

We need to get back to doing what we know works - closing indoor venues where super-spread happens, and stop listening to the "open everything" and the "close everything" advocates.

What's the discharge date per day I wonder?

Are the NPHET part of this group as well? The numbers have taken them and Nolan's modelling team completely by surprise and they wouldn't exactly be on the underestimate anything side.

To the main point though, the poster is absolutely correct. They need to make a plan and stick to it. If they want to lock her down fully then let's be having it. This nonsense of new restrictions being added almost daily and mixed messaging on schools and what's an essential business is a sure fire way to lose the general population. And Dr Tony making stupid statements like "this virus loves alcohol" does nothing for the general message that everyone should just stay at home.

hmmm

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

What indoor venues were accountable for super spreader events?

Fintan, you're smart enough to know that Covid is not mysteriously spreading through the ether. You've also had more than enough evidence of the importance of ventilation, close contact and extended contact as the cause of super-spread events.

So I think a year into this, acting like this is all a mystery is waring a bit thin.

hmmm

JRant wrote: »

They need to make a plan and stick to it. If they want to lock her down fully then let's be having it. This nonsense of new restrictions being added almost daily and mixed messaging on schools and what's an essential business is a sure fire way to lose the general population. And Dr Tony making stupid statements like "this virus loves alcohol" does nothing for the general message that everyone should just stay at home.

There was a plan - extended Level 3.

Instead the government folded to business lobby groups and the bleeding hearts wanting them to "save Christmas".

The restaurants and vitners were badly led. This is the second time they have pushed to reopen, and the second time they have been rushed into shutting down. Hopefully we finally going to get some "common sense" and stop trying to make pubs happen in a pandemic.

We can afford to borrow to bail out hospitality until the vaccines kick in - lets do that and stop asking for the impossible.

suicide_circus

suicide_circus wrote: »

Much easier to get yourself to do the grunt work though isnt it, your posts are so abrasive

Need to be because the sh*te is so thick

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

The next two budgets are crucial wouldya say?

The people paying us to spend their money will help