Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

zerosugarbuzz

Deleted User wrote: »

In the real world vaccinations are proceeding at pace now. I know multiple people who already have gotten it. And the weekly update is not a Sunday

Where are the figures then? Daily scaremongering with the Covid figures but silent with regard to the numbers vaccinated, Naturally people are going to be skeptical and suspicious.

caveat emptor

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

I think everyone understands that but they also see very low death rates and a lack of transparency in the figures being given out. After almost a year of this the buy-in simply Isn’t there. Twice this week I have heard of people in their 80’s simply giving up on life and being sent into care homes to basically die. Not from COVID but from depression from the isolation. The lockdowns are killing people too.

Hyperbole much? Twice this week I've heard of two 80 year olds winning the lottery and investing it wisely.

Lundstram

Lundstram wrote: »

You know absolutely nothing of the number. I couldn't care less that you "know multiple people who got it". Is that 2 people or 35k people? :rolleyes:

Upon more research I see Donnelly initially said they'll be available on the HSE Hub App every Sunday but this has now changed to a press conference on Monday. A few more Covid19 celebs in the making.

It’s not difficult to find information. Also HSE planning for 1million doses a month

https://www.thesun.ie/news/6394901/ireland-one-million-vaccines-month-paul-reid-hse/

Just to give... reassurance, this week alone, we planned to do over 35,000 vaccinations, we will exceed that by today, I'm happy to say.

"We will now accelerate, we have accelerated the most vulnerable groups, which are elderly people in nursing homes and they will be completed now over the next two weeks instead of the next three.

theballz

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In the real world vaccinations are proceeding at pace now. I know multiple people who already have gotten it. And the weekly update is not a Sunday

Needs to be a daily update but won’t be because the rollout plan is an utter shambles.

walus

Deleted User wrote: »

500 cases per day for 6 months is 90,000. Not going to make much impact on transmission. 10,000 is 1.8millon. Then you would’ve starting to run short of hosts

Are we taking a sting of the surge or achieving herd immunity in a record breaking timeframe?

The 500 cases I mentioned is only the number reported, the actual number of cases in the population is bound to be much higher obviously.

theballz

Lundstram wrote: »

You know absolutely nothing of the number. I couldn't care less that you "know multiple people who got it". Is that 2 people or 35k people? :rolleyes:

Upon more research I see Donnelly initially said they'll be available on the HSE Hub App every Sunday but this has now changed to a press conference on Monday. A few more Covid19 celebs in the making.

Stephen Donnelly needs to go ASAP. He’s like a car salesman and is the most untrustworthy politician I’ve seen in years (says a lot.)

Penfailed

theballz wrote: »

Needs to be a daily update but won’t be because the rollout plan is an utter shambles.

Why does it need to be a daily update? How would a daily update change how you go about your business? How would it affect your day if you hear a number in the evening? It's like hearing the daily case numbers...doesn't change anything for me.

Silentcorner

Penfailed wrote: »

Why does it need to be a daily update? How would a daily update change how you go about your business? How would it affect your day if you hear a number in the evening? It's like hearing the daily case numbers...doesn't change anything for me.

Well, they need to scrap the daily updates altogether or they need to include both.

But we know why they won't stop the daily updates, it's like a wooden spoon we get spanked with every day to keep us all in line...but why won't they give us a daily update on the vaccine rollout...because that will become a wooden spoon they get spanked with by the public.

We all know it will be a debacle....our shambolic health service exists to feed it's employees, not the public.

Mr. Karate

Lundstram wrote: »

Still no vaccine numbers available yet. Zero. Not a clue how many have got it. Supposed to be weekly update but nothing. I suspect they're witholding this number because its shamefully low.

Case numbers in your face every day, though.

What a fcuking shambles.

They don't want to tell us because once a certain amount have been done [ie. the most vulnerable] the majority will expect all this nonsense to be over with.

theballz

Penfailed wrote: »

Why does it need to be a daily update? How would a daily update change how you go about your business? How would it affect your day if you hear a number in the evening? It's like hearing the daily case numbers...doesn't change anything for me.

When did I say it is required for me to go about my business?

It was suggested to Stephen Donnelly last week to include the vaccine numbers daily and he said “great idea, let’s do it.” Two things wrong with that:
1. How had he not thought of that sooner? This is the guy running our health department.
2. It’s not happened

The rational behind the ask of including these figures in the daily numbers is to give people a sense of hope. A sense of belief and updates in which they deserve! People have put their life’s on hold, it’s the least they deserve.

Now take your passive aggressive nonsense elsewhere.

zerosugarbuzz

caveat emptor wrote: »

Hyperbole much? Twice this week I've heard of two 80 year olds winning the lottery and investing it wisely.

I wish it was Hyperbole. One is my neighbours mother in law who also lives locally and had a fully independent life until this kicked in and the other is the mother of a colleague of mine. Both very real and very sad cases.

tomwaits48

theballz wrote: »

When did I say it is required for me to go about my business?

It was suggested to Stephen Donnelly last week to include the vaccine numbers daily and he said “great idea, let’s do it.” Two things wrong with that:
1. How had he not thought of that sooner? This is the guy running our health department.
2. It’s not happened

The rational behind the ask of including these figures in the daily numbers is to give people a sense of hope. A sense of belief and updates in which they deserve! People have put their life’s on hold, it’s the least they deserve.

Now take your passive aggressive nonsense elsewhere.

I see Donnelly has fired his recently appointed pr advisor collete sexton only after a few months

FintanMcluskey

theballz wrote: »

Stephen Donnelly needs to go ASAP. He’s like a car salesman and is the most untrustworthy politician I’ve seen in years (says a lot.)

Donnelly was determined to give the guards new power to enter the home without a warrant last a Summer. Thankfully the Irish home is incredibly well protected under legislation and he didn’t get his desire.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/donnelly-says-legislation-needed-for-new-garda-covid-19-powers-1.4333929%3fmode=amp

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-powers-5180261-Aug2020/?section=comment#comments

Minimal case numbers at the time of course

One of the most dangerous men in a position of influence at present

Boggles

Personally I rather focus on getting the vaccines into arms rather that slowing the process with unnecessary paperwork to appease people who are afraid of the daily numbers.

The only numbers that counts is the vaccines that come into the country go out as fast and get to the people that need them.

A streamlined process according to the manufacturers instructions based on established data and science.

Penfailed

theballz wrote: »

When did I say it is required for me to go about my business?

It was suggested to Stephen Donnelly last week to include the vaccine numbers daily and he said “great idea, let’s do it.” Two things wrong with that:
1. How had he not thought of that sooner? This is the guy running our health department.
2. It’s not happened

The rational behind the ask of including these figures in the daily numbers is to give people a sense of hope. A sense of belief and updates in which they deserve! People have put their life’s on hold, it’s the least they deserve.

Now take your passive aggressive nonsense elsewhere.

To sum up...it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Passive aggressive? Wise up. I'll post how I see fit. If you don't like it, there's an ignore option.

Boggles

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

I wish it was Hyperbole. One is my neighbours mother in law who also lives locally and had a fully independent life until this kicked in and the other is the mother of a colleague of mine. Both very real and very sad cases.

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Twice this week I have heard of people in their 80’s simply giving up on life and being sent into care homes to basically die.

So both women with families with independent lives 10 months ago are being sent into care homes to die?

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Practically everyone I know has made special arrangements whither their hairdresser. Some have also made it for nails and other services.

Presumably they will be getting their hair and nails done on the sly before they go in?

You and your stories. :rolleyes:

Wesekn.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Donnelly was determined to give the guards new power to enter the home without a warrant last a Summer. Thankfully the Irish home is incredibly well protected under legislation and he didn’t get his desire.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/donnelly-says-legislation-needed-for-new-garda-covid-19-powers-1.4333929%3fmode=amp

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-powers-5180261-Aug2020/?section=comment#comments

Minimal case numbers at the time of course

One of the most dangerous men in a position of influence at present

Spoofer

Mr. Karate

Boggles wrote: »

Personally I rather focus on getting the vaccines into arms rather that slowing the process with unnecessary paperwork to appease people who are afraid of the daily numbers.

The only numbers that counts is the vaccines that come into the country go out as fast and get to the people that need them.

A streamlined process according to the manufacturers instructions based on established data and science.

Paperwork is part of the process. We have to sign a paper when we get the flu so no doubt we'll have to do the same for this. They can give us the numbers of people vaccinated if they wanted to.

Lord knows Holohan loves the sound of his own voice and the sight of his face on tv.

zerosugarbuzz

Boggles wrote: »

So both women with families with independent lives 10 months ago are being sent into care homes to die?





Presumably they will be getting their hair and nails done on the sly before they go in?

You and your stories. :rolleyes:

Two that I have heard about in the past 7 days. Why you find that so hard to believe is your own business but doesn't make it less true. I would imaging there are many more out there. Its actually a pathetic reflection on you to make those remarks.

caveat emptor

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

I wish it was Hyperbole. One is my neighbours mother in law who also lives locally and had a fully independent life until this kicked in and the other is the mother of a colleague of mine. Both very real and very sad cases.

Must be different to the two I know. They had a load of prize bonds and decided to put it all on a horse. The horse came in at 10 to 1 then they decided to go double or quits and put it all on the lotto.

The be paid off and they one the jackpot. Now they've invested in a non profit who's mission is to vaccinate all the old people so they too can live the good life like them.

They must move in different circles.

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

They don't want to tell us because once a certain amount have been done [ie. the most vulnerable] the majority will expect all this nonsense to be over with.

Go back about 6 posts

Boggles

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Why you find that so hard to believe is your own business but doesn't make it less true.

They have gone from living full independent lives with loving families, to being put into care homes in the middle of pandemic to die in the space of 10 months without any ailments or injuries?

That is very hard believe.

I don't actually believe it.

Now you have to right to tell us whatever stories want, I have the right not to believe them.

zerosugarbuzz

Boggles wrote: »

They have gone from living full independent lives with loving families, to being put into care homes in the middle of pandemic to die in the space of 10 months without any ailments or injuries?

That is very hard believe.

I don't actually believe it.

Now you have to right to tell us whatever stories want, I have the right not to believe them.

Other than giving you names and addresses which I'm not going to do I can't prove it. Believe what you like.

caveat emptor

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Other than giving you names and addresses which I'm not going to do I can't prove it. Believe what you like.

That's a shame. I've proof of my story luckily.

A great-grandmother from Gravesend has had her dreams come true after a £500,000 win on the National Lottery, and she told her family she "always knew I would win."

Sheila, a grandmother of 15, banked half a million pounds on the Thunderball amid the pandemic earlier this year, and has set her eyes on property after her lucky day.

The 80-year-old told her family and friends she knew she was destined to win, but admitted it was now all a bit surreal.

“I can’t get my head around it at the moment.

"It is still quite new and hasn’t really sunk in. It has become more real after holding the big cheque.”

Dempo1

I'm guessing NPHET won't be mentioning how successful we've been at surpressing the virus, I recall just before Christmas, we were being reminded how well we were doing, number 1 in the European charts etc

Not anymore, a shameful state of affairs really

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/ireland-has-worst-coronavirus-infection-rate-in-europe-1062214.html

zerosugarbuzz

caveat emptor wrote: »

That's a shame. I've proof of my story luckily.

Pathetic.

Lundstram

Quite incredible to think this woman is head of the vaccine taskforce but hasn't a clue how many has been done so far, not even a ball-park figure.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1348362085965684740

Dempo1

Lundstram wrote: »

Quite incredible to think this woman is head of the vaccine taskforce but hasn't a clue how many has been done so far, not even a ball-park figure.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1348362085965684740

Yes astonishing but don't worry, the government have a cunning plan, get a new secretary General for the department of health in and pay him €292k a year, if it wasn't for the shambolic past 10 months, I'd have thought this was made up, but no and it's disgusting.

Silentcorner

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Pathetic.

It is pathetic.

Think of all the elderly you know, your in laws, parents, neighbours etc...you can see how the lockdowns have impacted them...especially the 2nd lockdown and this one no doubt, for a lot of them their lives will never be the same, they will lose confidence in meeting people, driving, socializing.

A lot of the elderly people didn't go to their grand kids communions last year out of fear!

That was last summer when the "numbers" were in the dozens.

I'll say it again, the restrictions last summer were nothing short of a disgrace.

CrowdedHouse

More aul fear porn, who thought this was a good idea?

Revolting

https://twitter.com/ClaireByrneLive/status/1348306673958588417?s=20