Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So the Taoiseach should announce then that the country is lockdown until at least the end of April?

Why do you think he doesn’t announce it?

Because I think that that is just the general assumption now. Certainly is among everyone that I know, socially and professionally

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

We don’t want one person to die with Covid.

That's a given, no?

Deleted User wrote: »

But will we be happy to pull the ladder up on those thousands of people suffering?

Relax.

The economy will be opened gradually based on lots of things, but I imagine it will follow vaccinations as one of it's main metrics.

To quote Ireland's newest millionaire.

'The cavalry is on the way.'

There is a huge coiled spring board to restart the economy just waiting to be unleashed. It's not like 2008.

helimachoptor

If we can get to Easter with slightly eased restrictions, schools open etc and a chunk of people vaccinated the country needs to open back up.

I lost of my job in May, and was incredibly lucky to get a new job through a contact a few days later. The company I worked for had 100 people last January, down to 30 now.

For a lot of people I know Jan has been awful, the start of December there was some hope but companies seen that H1 was still going to be tough.

Internationally Dropbox laid of 11% of its workforce, that company should be thriving with everyone working remotely. Jobs will be shed at increasing rates, Ireland is in for a grim 2021 economically.

Clonmel1000

Penfailed wrote: »

That might mean mask wearing and social distancing. Big deal.

Mask wearing is a pain in the hole as is social distancing. What sort of person doesent get this seriously?

Mr. Karate

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

If you are talking about foreign holidays the airlines will not be anywhere near getting back to normal flights this summer or this autumn either.

Flights are still coming and going from Dublin Airport every day. So people are going to want to travel. I'm booked for 2 weeks in NY in June and I'm going. If the clowns in Govt and media can tell us to stay home and still take off on vacations than so can the rest of us.

fin12

Penfailed wrote: »

That might mean mask wearing and social distancing. Big deal.

Social distancing is a problem if u are trying to form relationships.

Penfailed

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

And you know all this for a fact do you? Can I have a loan of your crystal ball? The truth is that no one including you has any idea what will be happening beyond this summer anyway. Anything else is just speculation despite you presenting your opinions as facts.

After the Spanish Flu we had the Roaring Twenties. It could be the same. Who knows.

fin12

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Flights are still coming and going from Dublin Airport every day. So people are going to want to travel. I'm booked for 2 weeks in NY in June and I'm going. If the clowns in Govt and media can tell us to stay home and still take off on vacations than so can the rest of us.

I am happy enough not to go abroad again this year but if they f*ck around the hospitality industry again this summer, I’m going.

CalamariFritti

Penfailed wrote: »

That might mean mask wearing and social distancing. Big deal.

Not a big deal if you're old and not too interested. If you're 25 and you didnt get laid in over a year not so much.

Penfailed

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Read on RTÉ today that government met with hospitality representatives yesterday and gave them the impression that hospitality certainly wouldn’t open before Easter.

Make of that what you will. So much for the economy bouncing right back in 2021 has many have stated.

Those that stated that didn't think this thing would still be going this year. I certainly didn't think, back in March and April, that this would still be as big a deal as it is.

Kunta Kinte

Penfailed wrote: »

After the Spanish Flu we had the Roaring Twenties. It could be the same. Who knows.

Exactly. No one knows. Anyone that claims they do are just spoofers. A lot of hysterical off the wall claims going on here.

hynesie08

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Flights are still coming and going from Dublin Airport every day. So people are going to want to travel. I'm booked for 2 weeks in NY in June and I'm going. If the clowns in Govt and media can tell us to stay home and still take off on vacations than so can the rest of us.

Aren't estas suspended at the moment, so unless that's rescinded you're going nowhere.

Kunta Kinte

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Not a big deal if you're old and not too interested. If you're 25 and you didnt get laid in over a year not so much.

Not too interested in what exactly?

Mr. Karate

fin12 wrote: »

I am happy enough not to go abroad again this year but if they f*ck around the hospitality industry again this summer, I’m going.

If I owned a Hotel here I wouldn't be in any hurry to re open. They've been treated like play things by the Government. This is why I can't see the economy rebounding as quickly as another poster here previously claimed. No confidence in the Govt any more.

My trip to NY in June is part personal and part business. I want to see my friends because their Father passed away over the Summer. And I want to assess the job situation [and job training as well] over there.

fin12

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Not a big deal if you're old and not too interested. If you're 25 and you didnt get laid in over a year not so much.

Exactly , I’m say a lot of these people who say social distancing is no big deal are either coupled up themselves or happy being single. It’s about being also who are looking for a relationship.

Mr. Karate

hynesie08 wrote: »

Aren't estas suspended at the moment, so unless that's rescinded you're going nowhere.

According to Dublin Airport's website they're still flying to NY [was one bound for it today]

Drumpot

I asked this in main thread with little response. Just curious to know what is people’s take on children mingling outside in the current status. What about playing in a neighbours back garden v being out the front?

I would of interpreted it that they do not want them playing together but this effectively means people having to lockup kids. Once a child is not in a person line of sight you can’t expect them to follow such rigid guidelines (ignore your friends etc). So I am just wondering how are parents managing this?

CalamariFritti

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Not too interested in what exactly?

You know what I mean. Interpersonal relationships. Sex even. When you're older and settled or both meeting new people - not from a distance - isn't a big deal for a while. Not if you're single.

Look I'm not implying anything. Just saying the young wont stay put when numbers drop and we're dragging the arse out of this. And not just the young.

fin12

CalamariFritti wrote: »

You know what I mean. Interpersonal relationships. Sex even. When you're older and settled or both meeting new people - not from a distance - isn't a big deal for a while. Not if you're single.

Look I'm not implying anything. Just saying the young wont stay put when numbers drop and we're dragging the arse out of this. And not just the young.

People in their 30s and 40s who want to settle down aswell.

Drumpot

Drumpot wrote: »

I asked this in main thread with little response. Just curious to know what is people’s take on children mingling outside in the current status. What about playing in a neighbours back garden v being out the front?

I would of interpreted it that they do not want them playing together but this effectively means people having to lockup kids. Once a child is not in a person line of sight you can’t expect them to follow such rigid guidelines (ignore your friends etc). So I am just wondering how are parents managing this?

Kids should be kids.

It would be much more detrimental to their development to stay locked in the house or trying to socialise from 2m apart.

And our kids should be prioritised over our health.

Penfailed

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Not a big deal if you're old and not too interested. If you're 25 and you didnt get laid in over a year not so much.

I meant social distancing in workplaces, shops, restaurants and pubs. If I was trying to get laid, I wouldn't let a pandemic get in the way...

ceadaoin.

Mr. Karate wrote: »

According to Dublin Airport's website they're still flying to NY [was one bound for it today]

People can travel without estas. Citizens, residents and those with visas. Essential travel is also allowed. Even if the flights are mostly empty they won't stop them because they might lose the slot.

Boggles

Drumpot wrote: »

I asked this in main thread with little response. Just curious to know what is people’s take on children mingling outside in the current status. What about playing in a neighbours back garden v being out the front?

I would of interpreted it that they do not want them playing together but this effectively means people having to lockup kids. Once a child is not in a person line of sight you can’t expect them to follow such rigid guidelines (ignore your friends etc). So I am just wondering how are parents managing this?

Depending on your own circumstance.

Risk V Reward.

Personally I'd give it a week a 2.

FintanMcluskey

Drumpot wrote: »

I asked this in main thread with little response. Just curious to know what is people’s take on children mingling outside in the current status. What about playing in a neighbours back garden v being out the front?

I would of interpreted it that they do not want them playing together but this effectively means people having to lockup kids. Once a child is not in a person line of sight you can’t expect them to follow such rigid guidelines (ignore your friends etc). So I am just wondering how are parents managing this?

I would have no issues whatsoever if they don’t live with elderly/sick people.

Important that kids realise this is relatively harmless to them

Drumpot

Deleted User wrote: »

Kids should be kids.

It would be much more detrimental to their development to stay locked in the house or trying to socialise from 2m apart.

And our kids should be prioritised over our health.

Boggles wrote: »

Depending on your own circumstance.

Risk V Reward.

Personally I'd give it a week a 2.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I would have no issues whatsoever if they don’t live with elderly/sick people.

Important that kids realise this is relatively harmless to them

An interestingly diverse attitude. Suppose it’s up to each individual or family to decide what they feel is best.

FintanMcluskey

Drumpot wrote: »

An interestingly diverse attitude. Suppose it’s up to each individual or family to decide what they feel is best.

The biggest risk to the kids is falling and hurting themselves.

Depending on your own circumstances, age, weight and underlying issues the risk will vary accordingly.

Lundstram

Good on them. Similar goings on in Poland and Switzerland. People can only take so much.

https://www.rt.com/news/512744-italy-restaurants-protest-lockdown/

bettyoleary

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I would have no issues whatsoever if they don’t live with elderly/sick people.

Important that kids realise this is relatively harmless to them

How do you know that?? A 25 yr old died this week.

FintanMcluskey

Lundstram wrote: »

Good on them. Similar goings on in Poland and Switzerland. People can only take so much.

https://www.rt.com/news/512744-italy-restaurants-protest-lockdown/

Was about to post that.

They are already sick of it and they weren’t nearly as suppressed as Ireland

FintanMcluskey

bettyoleary wrote: »

How do you know that?? A 25 yr old died this week.

People die every day of lots of different things.

The risk of Covid killing you at that age is incredibly small, almost such a small risk that if you were worried about it a quick lesson in risk analysis of daily activities would cause one to never leave the house