Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

JRant

Graham wrote: »

Yeah, they don't appear to have done New Zealand any good at all.

Oh hang on.

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1350749008369770497

You know what else NZ didn't do?
They didn't allow 10's of thousands travel from the UK, which was rampant with COVID at the time, untested and with no quarantine. But sure, we all partied, now where have I heard that awful phrase before.

fin12

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

Is this the same WHO that told us all back in January 2020 that the virus would not spread from human to human, hugely delayed upgrading Covid’s status from epidemic to pandemic and spent more time trying to not offend China than protect the rest of the world, the same world that funds their cushy jobs?! Yeah how ‘scientific’....

Also told us not to bother wearing masks. I know people love to never give Trump credit for anything, but he cut fundingfrom that useless corrupt organization.

Graham

growleaves wrote: »

https://politicsandinsights.org/2017/04/29/political-polls-and-propaganda-the-writing-on-the-wall/

Ignore opinion poles, ignore government, ignore the medical profession, ignore the media.

That sounds like a sound basis to crack a pandemic.

Ironhead93

GazzaL wrote: »

https://twitter.com/otwieramy

This twitter account highlights some of the businesses like restaurants, bars, hotels and recreational activity venues etc. that are re-opening in Poland despite the restrictions. It's a long list! Great to see.

Unfortunately I doubt that would ever happen here, we're a nation of cowards.

HalfAndHalf

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Increasing the amount of ICU beds and Ventilators.

And how exactly does that stop the spread of the virus?

You conveniently ignored the rest of my post I see....so masks and lockdowns don’t prevent person to person transmission, more hospital beds do! Got to be the best one yet! LOL!

HalfAndHalf

JRant wrote: »

You know what else NZ didn't do?
They didn't allow 10's of thousands travel from the UK, which was rampant with COVID at the time, untested and with no quarantine. But sure, we all partied, now where have I heard that awful phrase before.

120,000 Irish people came home at Xmas, is this the U.K. travel you refer to?

growleaves

Graham wrote: »

Ignore opinion poles, ignore government, ignore the medical profession, ignore the media.

That sounds like a sound basis to crack a pandemic.

It depends. Which opinion Poles? Many Poles are against lockdown

Mr. Karate

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

And how exactly does that stop the spread of the virus?

You conveniently ignored the rest of my post I see....so masks and lockdowns don’t prevent person to person transmission, more hospital beds do! Got to be the best one yet! LOL!

We can't stop the spread of the flu. Stopping this is a pipe dream. The best thing they could have done was beefed up their emergency rooms and ICUs with beds, ventilators and other equipment so the rest of us could go on with our lives.

Kunta Kinte

fin12 wrote: »

Also told us not to bother wearing masks. I know people love to never give Trump credit for anything, but he cut fundingfrom that useless corrupt organization.

In a few days time after the orange moron is rightly ****ed out of the White House President Biden will be reversing a lot of that ****tard`s decisions hopefully including restoring funding to the WHO.

fin12

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

In a few days time after the orange moron is rightly ****ed out of the White House President Biden will be reversing a lot of that ****tard`s decisions hopefully including restoring funding to the WHO.

Don’t give a f*ck what Biden does. Jeeze trump really is like a bull to a red flag to you... lol

Lundstram

I see some trouble is brewing regarding the vaccine. Head of Coombe hospital apparently brought home some vaccines for his kids. Throwing out the "they were going to be dumped anyway" line to try cover his arse. Interesting to see how this plays out.

Here we all are locked down awaiting this vaccine and this sh1t is going on. Sickening.

fin12

Lundstram wrote: »

I see some trouble is brewing regarding the vaccine. Head of Coombe hospital apparently brought home some vaccines for his kids. Throwing out the "they were going to be dumped anyway" line to try cover his arse. Interesting to see how this plays out.

Why would vaccines have been dumped?

Lundstram

fin12 wrote: »

Why would vaccines have been dumped?

I think they've a short life once defrosted, I'm not privy to the exact timeframe, though.

Nursing home up the road from me here has only 30% of staff vaccinated and here's your man bringing it home. Unbelievable.

Neamhshuntasach

fin12 wrote: »

Why would vaccines have been dumped?

Once they are thawed out for use. They have a short shelf life. They can't just go back or be transported elsewhere for use. So it's pretty much use it or lose it. But bringing in family members to take them is ridiculous.

fin12

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Once they are thawed out for use. They have a short shelf life. They can't just go back or be transported elsewhere for use. So it's pretty much use it or lose it. But bringing in family members to take them is ridiculous.

Ok so then why weren’t they used and left to thaw out?

Neamhshuntasach

Lundstram wrote: »

I think they've a short life once defrosted, I'm not privy to the exact timeframe, though.

Nursing home up the road from me here has only 30% of staff vaccinated and here's your man bringing it home. Unbelievable.

Pfizer is 5 days at standard fridge. Moderna is a fair bit longer at 30 days I think. Seems like it's grand to just throw back into a fridge and take away. But doesn't see like there is a standard refrigerated process to take any extras away and bring elsewhere. Probably because they aren't planning for extras. The extras come from the different number of doses extracted from each vial primarily. Or no shows. Which I believe are very low here.

Neamhshuntasach

fin12 wrote: »

Ok so then why weren’t they used and left to thaw out?

See above comment from me. Some vials have 4 doses. Some have 5 and some 6. Depends on needle used and extraction.

Plan to do 200 people at one site so there are 50 vials. But it turns out that 20 of the vials allowed for 5 shots while 10 allowed for 6. There's 40 extra. And it's not like they are just thawed onsite. They arrive ready.

Kunta Kinte

fin12 wrote: »

Don’t give a f*ck what Biden does. Jeeze trump really is like a bull to a red flag to you... lol

The correct phrase is "like a red flag to a bull ". If you are going to give a smart reply then at least get it right. And yeah that orange piece of ****e has blood on his hands. The sooner he is taken away in chains and locked away for the rest of his moronic life the better.

fin12

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

See above comment from me. Some vials have 4 doses. Some have 5 and some 6. Depends on needle used and extraction.

Plan to do 200 people at one site so there are 50 vials. But it turns out that 20 of the vials allowed for 5 shots while 10 allowed for 6. There's 40 extra. And it's not like they are just thawed onsite. They arrive ready.

I don’t understand any of that .

Neamhshuntasach

fin12 wrote: »

I don’t understand any of that .

Well that's on you a chara.

dalyboy

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

The correct phrase is "like a red flag to a bull ". If you are going to give a smart reply then at least get it right. And yeah that orange piece of ****e has blood on his hands. The sooner he is taken away in chains and locked away for the rest of his moronic life the better.

Ahh , your both wrong. It’s “red rag to a bull”

Kunta Kinte

fin12 wrote: »

I don’t give a f*ck what u think or about Trump ... on ignore cause what I really want to say to u will be me banned.

Likewise.

fin12

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Well that's on you a chara.

Yes I know it is, not trying to be smart , as I genuinely don’t understand and even this vaccine makes no sense to me as someone says u can still get the virus when vaccinated just don’t get sick.

fin12

dalyboy wrote: »

Ahh , your both wrong. It’s “red rag to a bull”

Haha.

Graham

fin12 wrote: »

I don’t understand any of that .

There's at least 5 vaccinations in each bottle, quite a lot of bottles contain more than 5 doses which means there's nearly always some left over.

fin12

Graham wrote: »

There's at least 5 vaccinations in each bottle, quite a lot of bottles contain more than 5 doses which means there's nearly always some left over.

So they don’t know how much is there till they open the box? Can they not just open a vaccine centre where people just queue up all day to get the vaccine then there is constant people available to take it.

46 Long

Lundstram wrote: »

I see some trouble is brewing regarding the vaccine. Head of Coombe hospital apparently brought home some vaccines for his kids. Throwing out the "they were going to be dumped anyway" line to try cover his arse. Interesting to see how this plays out.

Here we all are locked down awaiting this vaccine and this sh1t is going on. Sickening.

Fair play to the man.

He took a bit of initiative, prioritized the well-being of his family and prevented vaccines from going to waste. Not that the hand-wringers and professional outrage brigade will see it that way of course.

Graham

fin12 wrote: »

even this vaccine makes no sense to me as someone says u can still get the virus when vaccinated just don’t get sick.

The vaccine teaches your body how to fight off the virus, it's not a forcefield to stop the virus reaching you.

Graham

fin12 wrote: »

So they don’t know how much is there till they open the box? Can they not just open a vaccine centre where people just queue up all day to get the vaccine then there is constant people available to take it.

They know how many vials (bottles), just not how many doses each vial will contain.

I'm not sure queueing in hospitals and nursing homes is all that sensible currently.

You'd also end up disappointing some at the back of the queue.

fin12

Graham wrote: »

The vaccine teaches your body how to fight off the virus, it's not a forcefield to stop the virus reaching you.

But why do other vaccines prevent u from getting a virus, take the hpv one that prevents u from getting the virus?