Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

drunkmonkey

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It's more accepting

Allows some family who will stick to the restrictions to head home for Christmas

Long term I hate level 3 as it's stick to your own county and now fines for breaking the restrictions

You don't have to pay the fine, you can challenge it through the court system. If you get fined go visit a GP and get a fitness to work cert the same day.
I'll help organize your go fund me. If your healthy there's no way the High court will rule you should be restricted.

PTH2009

Ryanair a bit tongue in cheek with there words for a promotional email I got

'Lockdown ending, home for Christmas'

KrustyUCC

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1332099188826525696

That seems reasonable to me

I agree on most things except the pub thing. If gastro pubs are allowed to reopen then all pubs should be open with measurements in place like they were in the summer

acequion

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It's more accepting

Allows some family who will stick to the restrictions to head home for Christmas

Long term I hate level 3 as it's stick to your own county and now fines for breaking the restrictions

Did I read that intercounty travel will be allowed from 18th Dec-3rd Jan, give or take a day? How is that good? How can it be in any way good that they plan already to lock us back up in our counties come Jan 3rd?? And from Jan 3rd to when exactly????

I hope I misread it. While I am happy to get some freedoms back I'd be more apprehensive for the long term. The girl on Prime Time representing the vintners said she'd be happy to stick it out for a few more weeks if they would allow us to actually live with it in 2021. I feel the same.

The idea of going back to this miserable crap after xmas and the certainty of a recession looming when this thing eventually ends is beyond depressing.

fin12

acequion wrote: »

Did I read that intercounty travel will be allowed from 18th Dec-3rd Jan, give or take a day? How is that good? How can it be in any way good that they plan already to lock us back up in our counties come Jan 3rd?? And from Jan 3rd to when exactly????

I hope I misread it. While I am happy to get some freedoms back I'd be more apprehensive for the long term. The girl on Prime Time representing the vintners said she'd be happy to stick it out for a few more weeks if they would allow us to actually live with it in 2021. I feel the same.

The idea of going back to this miserable crap after xmas and the certainty of a recession looming when this thing eventually ends is beyond depressing.

So they have literally already decided on the date of the next lockdown, January 3rd.

Rrrrrr2

fin12 wrote: »

So they have literally already decided on the date of the next lockdown, January 3rd.

It’s pretty clear as things stand we are stuck in a perpetual cycle of this crap until god knows when.

paw patrol

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ryanair a bit tongue in cheek with there words for a promotional email I got

'Lockdown ending, home for Christmas'

I know they are driven by profit but Ryanair are one of the only corporates I can respect after this covid debacle , they questioned , challenged and refused to play clappy seal like pretty much all the rest.

Spudman_20000

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

It’s pretty clear as things stand we are stuck in a perpetual cycle of this crap until god knows when.

No we're not. Surely there's no earthly way the government are stupid enough to think they can allow businesses to reopen in December, only to close them again in January? Then again, who knows what this spineless government will do.

Do people think it's just a matter of business owners unlocking their doors, switching on the lights and viola, they're back in business? There's significant costs to reopening.

I'd imagine a lot of gastro pubs and restaurants won't even bother re-opening from the 7th if the leaks on limitations are to be believed. Couple of weeks of business will be a fart in the wind if there's any threat of closure again in January.

brisan

brokekeyboard wrote: »

We know that house parties and schools have been a problem. We also know from tracing that infections have been acquired at restaurants.

We also had at one stage a low prevalence of the virus but complacency allowed it to catch up and/or newly imported cases

If we want to stop the virus then
Close schools
Close hospitals
Close nursing homes
They are the main source of the spread

So, the 5km or some other nonsense travel ban will remain in place?

Will I be allowed to travel more than 5KM for retail, hotels etc?

Not that I’d follow this nonsense anyways but would be good to know what the official line is.

iamwhoiam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I agree on most things except the pub thing. If gastro pubs are allowed to reopen then all pubs should be open with measurements in place like they were in the summer

I also think that opening only some pubs will concentrate people into those open .

Banana Republic 1

brisan wrote: »

If we want to stop the virus then
Close schools
Close hospitals
Close nursing homes
They are the main source of the spread

If they actually went about enforcing the rules that came with level 5. The virus gets into to nursing homes it doesn’t spring out of them. Same with hospitals and schools, there are silva tests now that you can do everyday they make be as accurate as the pcr one but by doing them regularly the virus would be pinned down. The government should be introducing theses thing but it’s like computer says no.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Does anyone know when they are planning on making the announcement?

I presume cabinet all day today and announcement late tonight.

Busi_Girl08

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Does anyone know when they are planning on making the announcement?

I presume cabinet all day today and announcement late tonight.

They don't want it to clash with the Toy Show, so I would say by 8pm at the latest.

brisan

brokekeyboard wrote: »

Deaths, the only verifiable metric.

Ok show me your cost benefit analysis. I think it is just a massive dose of paranoia, lockdown is not great but it won't kill you.

People dying every day during lockdown
Ask Tony

CIARAN_BOYLE

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

They don't want it to clash with the Toy Show, so I would say by 8pm at the latest.

So another 11 hours of speculation to come.

Busi_Girl08

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

So another 11 hours of speculation to come.

And a pillow to scream into for everyone in the audience!!!

drunkmonkey

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

They don't want it to clash with the Toy Show, so I would say by 8pm at the latest.

Kids are really in for a treat tonight, Clown show followed by the Toy show.

cherryghost

Imagine Michael walking in dressed as a sneaky fox at the start of the Toy Show with an announcement.

brisan

brokekeyboard wrote: »

Are you pro bareback too?

Well I am
I have not worn a condom in the last 30 years

FintanMcluskey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Kids are really in for a treat tonight, Clown show followed by the Toy show.

One is out of his depth and costing us a fortune during Covid, the other is called Micheal

Rrrrrr2

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Kids are really in for a treat tonight, Clown show followed by the Toy show.

Toy show will be horrific tonight. Can only just imagine the pontifical speech at the start of it

FintanMcluskey

brisan wrote: »

Well I am
I have not worn a condom in the last 30 years

Married I assume?

cherryghost

cherryghost wrote: »

Imagine Michael walking in dressed as a sneaky fox at the start of the Toy Show with an announcement.

Unless Micheál is announcing every pub can reopen, he could do his best All Jolson impersonation for all I care. We know the story by now, minor concessions aren't going to cut it for most of the hospitality sector. NPHET know where they can stick their "gastro-pub" folly, not going into an environment filled with pompous annuals who order tap water.

brisan

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

If they actually went about enforcing the rules that came with level 5. The virus gets into to nursing homes it doesn’t spring out of them. Same with hospitals and schools, there are silva tests now that you can do everyday they make be as accurate as the pcr one but by doing them regularly the virus would be pinned down. The government should be introducing theses thing but it’s like computer says no.

The virus got into nursing homes through
Patients from hospitals being released untested back to nursing homes
Healthcare workers
They knew this last April
Why they allowed it to continue is beyond comprehension
There should be 2 or 3 hospitals countrywide that are purely Covid hospitals

FintanMcluskey

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Married I assume?

Clergy...:D

Ginger n Lemon

Boris Johnson 'facing Tory revolt' over plans to impose tough restrictions on 99% of English population
More than 55 million people will be placed into Tier 2 and Tier 3 from next week.

https://www.thejournal.ie/uk-covid-19-restrictions-december-boris-johnson-tory-revolt-5280530-Nov2020/

Common sense pulling through. Will be pretty ironic if the traditionally more advanced nation that is England is behind on covid restrictions easing to, wait for it, Mehole Martin and co.

Let's hope it happens, it's important to see how all aspects of Covid culture are received and not received.

Fodla

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Boris Johnson 'facing Tory revolt' over plans to impose tough restrictions on 99% of English population
More than 55 million people will be placed into Tier 2 and Tier 3 from next week.

https://www.thejournal.ie/uk-covid-19-restrictions-december-boris-johnson-tory-revolt-5280530-Nov2020/

Common sense pulling through. Will be pretty ironic if the traditionally more advanced nation that is England is behind on covid restrictions easing to, wait for it, Mehole Martin and co.

The "conservative" Johnson and his merry band of advisers warn of mutations. Imagine that. I'm amazed:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/26/uk-govt-lockdown-likely-to-last-12-months-hard-winter-coming/

brisan

rusty cole wrote: »

Clergy...:D

After Bishop Casey I’d say all clergy wear condoms