Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

CruelSummer

Penfailed wrote: »

This is common knowledge. You seem surprised.

I don’t seem surprised but the constant barrage of doom, fear and negativity around just going to level 3 is unnecessary. Tomás Ryan has also made a number of false accusations on Prime Time and other stations regarding the death rate of Covid, and he’s not even a specialist in the field. One would have to wonder why he is constantly on our airwaves in relation to Covid.

Tork

I think the barrage of negativity and wheeling out Tomás Ryan is meant to stop people losing the run of themselves over Christmas and bringing on another Level 5 in January. Personally, I find Level 5 restrictions more negative than anything anybody says on the telly.

BeefeaterHat

Gervais08 wrote: »

Because apparently after a couple of pints we all lose our minds and start having orgies in pubs.

Mental stuff alright it is.

Where's your local gervais? I might stick me head in the door if I'm ever in your neck of the woods.

Tork

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

Where's your local gervais? I might stick me head in the door if I'm ever in your neck of the woods.

It might have a few new customers :pac:

Oscar Bravo

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

Where's your local gervais? I might stick me head in the door if I'm ever in your neck of the woods.

his local is the one with the curtain twitching slightly on the front window

Gervais08

Tork wrote: »

It might have a few new customers :pac:

It’s all vicious rumours!! Sure even after 5 or 6 we masked up to go the jacks, very sedate!!

Poorside

Gervais08 wrote: »

Because apparently after a couple of pints we all lose our minds and start having orgies in pubs.

Mental stuff alright it is.

Sure just keep the mask on and you'll be grand, see you next Monday?

Gervais08

Poorside wrote: »

Sure just keep the mask on and you'll be grand, see you next Monday?

Let’s hope they allow a tab, it’s a fierce pain to get the bank card out the gimp suit!

Poorside

Gervais08 wrote: »

Let’s hope they allow a tab, it’s a fierce pain to get the bank card out the gimp suit!

Tap and go is your only man.

Captain_Crash

Zebra3 wrote: »

Brother works for a large German insurance company.

They've had people working at home for years.

Cutting costs and also the ability to provide a constant service in the event of bad snow, etc.

Exactly, that’s my point, the tech is there and has been for years, but it’s not done “en masse” which was the key phrase in my post!

I’ve been able work remotely for nearly 15 years now... my firm embraced it and I know I won’t be back in the office for a long time! But, I’m in the minority (as is your bother) and most companies will want staff back sooner rather than later! Like you acknowledged... the tech has existed for a long time and before covid I’d say over 90% (a guess) of office workers worked in the office, and we’ll be back to a similar level once this is over

griffdaddy

vafankillar wrote: »

actually I have asked while there and told they weren't open. I also work in a supermarket and ours have been closed in level 5.

which places have you used?

Peggy Kelly's in Harold's Cross and Hartigans on Leeson Street both let me use the facilities. Bernard Shaw in Glasnevin haf no public facilities available. I've heard of other places second hand as well, Brewdog for example.

Captain_Crash

griffdaddy wrote: »

Peggy Kelly's in Harold's Cross and Hartigans on Leeson Street both let me use the facilities. Bernard Shaw in Glasnevin haf no public facilities available. I've heard of other places second hand as well, Brewdog for example.

I’ll second that, I’ve used the bathroom in a couple of pubs in D6 in the past few weeks (neither of the two mentioned tho)

Gervais08

Poorside wrote: »

Tap and go is your only man.

But what about payment ? Ba dum tsshhhh!!

patnor1011

Ficheall wrote: »

Yes, they make judgments based on the balance of probability etc.
Anyone who claims to have the omniscience you're after is full of crap.

Anyone who base their judgement on a crap model predicting tens of thousands of people dead from covid is also full of crap.

end of the road

patnor1011 wrote: »

Anyone who base their judgement on a crap model predicting tens of thousands of people dead from covid is also full of crap.

nope wrong, they aren't full of crap as the models were based on the available data at the time so were not deliberately inaccurate.
even then, deaths being high without controlling and minimising the spread of the virus still remains accurate.

weldoninhio

vafankillar wrote: »

here's a question. will the many 'wet pubs' currently doing take away pints now be allowed let those customers use their bathroom facilities? was one of the biggest obstacles with the whole take away thing, almost more so than the weather since almost no public toiles open in dublin other than the one beside stephens green and the one at wolftone square.

I’ve been using the jacks in my local since he started doing take away pints.

Gervais08

end of the road wrote: »

nope wrong, they aren't full of crap as the models were based on the available data at the time so were not deliberately inaccurate.
even then, deaths being high without controlling and minimising the spread of the virus still remains accurate.

Jesus wept, such naïveté!

Tork

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Exactly, that’s my point, the tech is there and has been for years, but it’s not done “en masse” which was the key phrase in my post!

I’ve been able work remotely for nearly 15 years now... my firm embraced it and I know I won’t be back in the office for a long time! But, I’m in the minority (as is your bother) and most companies will want staff back sooner rather than later! Like you acknowledged... the tech has existed for a long time and before covid I’d say over 90% (a guess) of office workers worked in the office, and we’ll be back to a similar level once this is over

It's down to the company ethos isn't it? Before Covid, we had a handful of people WFH and a number of others looking for it but not getting it. When we get briefings from senior managers, they're at pains to point out that we're working from home because of Covid. I have no doubt we'll all be called back into the office when the time comes.

Whatsisname

Fantastic speech by Charles Walker here in the UK tonight. He also raised his disgust recently about a 78 year old woman who was arrested for protesting the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6FRcufY13c

Gael23

When vaccines begin where does that leave us with restrictions?

CinemaGuy45

Gael23 wrote: »

When vaccines begin where does that leave us with restrictions?

You will need your to prove you are vaccinated along with wearing a mask have you heard anybody in power say any different?

dalyboy

Gael23 wrote: »

When vaccines begin where does that leave us with restrictions?

When they “begin” ? .. same place we are now. In and out of lock down.

Once the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated (probably May/June) and the hospital numbers / deaths are non-existent they’ll have zero hope of continued threats of lockdown.

There will be neither the money (pup) nor public support for any more sh1t at that point.

I’d imagine there will be fragments of lockdown mania still existing by then and they’ll be shouting to have under 50 yr olds vaccinated over the next couple of years but I’m hoping they’ll be viewed in the same light as we view clowns and jesters once all “danger” is behind us

_Kaiser_

Well well.. A professor of immunology on NT just now said that the virus is showing signs of seasonality and we should be in a better place come the summer.

I and others here have been saying this for a while based on the observed evidence and stats but of course this was dismissed. Interesting to hear an expert acknowledge it on mainstream radio though.

Boggles

Whatsisname wrote: »

Fantastic speech by Charles Walker here in the UK tonight. He also raised his disgust recently about a 78 year old woman who was arrested for protesting the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6FRcufY13c

You mean this one?



She looks well for 78, details of her arrest and charge haven't been released AFAIK, you would imagine a sitting MP would check these things out before trying to get social media likes.

Paper speculates she is an anti vax loon.

_Kaiser_

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Well well.. A professor of immunology on NT just now said that the virus is showing signs of seasonality and we should be in a better place come the summer.

I and others here have been saying this for a while based on the observed evidence and stats but of course this was dismissed. Interesting to hear an expert acknowledge it on mainstream radio though.

Exactly, and this is the reason cases numbers are so low now in Australia and NZ...........it is about 40 degrees there now and mid Summer!!
And we are in the middle of Winter..............go figure.
Numbers with or without vaccine will be in single digits next Summer anyway due to seasonality.......... and we will all be clapping ourselves on the back saying "we did it".........:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly, and this is the reason cases numbers are so low now in Australia and NZ

No it isn't. The reason cases are so low in both is solely down to their method of control, which are some of the most strict on the planet.

Deleted User wrote: »

...........it is about 40 degrees there now and mid Summer!!

It was 40+ degress in Florida in July and August.



Go figure.

MadYaker

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Well well.. A professor of immunology on NT just now said that the virus is showing signs of seasonality and we should be in a better place come the summer.

I and others here have been saying this for a while based on the observed evidence and stats but of course this was dismissed. Interesting to hear an expert acknowledge it on mainstream radio though.

It was dismissed because it’s nonsense and when summer arrived the virus didn’t dissapear. You do realise it’s currently summer in the Southern Hemisphere and loads of countries in South America in particular are still getting huge numbers?

I don’t know how you arrived at that conclusion. But we’ll likely have vaccines getting rolled out by then anyway so it won’t matter.

Paddygreen

It is very possible that the Son of Covid could be born before the year is out guys. Don’t say I said it but a little bird told me that’s what “Charlie” on the ouija board told NEPHET last night during the seance.

retro:electro

mandrake04

Boggles wrote: »

No it isn't. The reason cases are so low in both is solely down to their method of control, which are some of the most strict on the planet.

Only really strict in quarantine which is where it matters, most restrictions are at L1 caution level.

NSW has been 60%-80% normality since end of May.. and would be over 90% normal now.

You are now allowed 50 people in your house, 30 in your apartment, Pubs and restaurants 1 person 2m2 indoor and outdoor. 300 at xmas parties, weddings etc. SD is 1.5m and masks were only advised.

Melbourne faired a lot worse than Sydney and Brisbane because their winters are shyte and more European, Sydney had cruise ships of people land and was still able to handle only 1900 cases of community transmission compared to 19,000 in Melbourne.