The Vaccine

skooterblue2

aido79 wrote: »

If you were to read the link I posted it says that sometimes sarcoidosis goes away by itself.
I'm not saying the homeopathy didn't help. It's just that there is no evidence that it helps but you don't really believe in evidence do you?

By the way homeopathy has nothing to do with astrology. Is Google part of your conspiracy or do you just not like using it?

Well two weeks of Steroids were worse than sarcoidosis.
about a week and a half of the homeopathy cure...... I was back in school and gaining weight lost by sarcoidosis. Bit of a co-incidence? Doctor cast explain it.

check up 12 essential salts, its routed in Astrology.

Fighting Tao

Quiner wrote: »

When have passports caused injury to a person?

Although rare, thank God, vaccines have caused injury to people.

I thank scientists.

begbysback

King Mob wrote: »

Covid has killed 1.6 million people.

And you have proof that covid has actually been responsible for killing 1.6 million people?

Timberrrrrrrr

Quiner wrote: »

When have passports caused injury to a person?

Although rare, thank God, vaccines have caused injury to people.

So don't get one, no one and I do mean NO ONE is forcing you to get one.

Fighting Tao

begbysback wrote: »

And you have proof that covid has actually been responsible for killing 1.6 million people?

Good place to start is page 1 of this thread.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well two weeks of Steroids were worse than sarcoidosis.
about a week and a half of the homeopathy cure...... I was back in school and gaining weight lost by sarcoidosis. Bit of a co-incidence? Doctor cast explain it.

check up 12 essential salts, its routed in Astrology.

If you tested the homeopathic solution, what do you think it would be made up of? I'm getting increasingly sceptical of you doing a science course tbh...

Deep Thought

King Mob wrote: »

Covid has killed 1.6 million people.

Which is why we need a vaccine. This is what the world looks like without one vaccine.

A point was made here about things like polio

A lot of people will not have heard about polio,rubella, tetanus or hepatitis.. because they are all but eradicated... why are all they eradicated? Because we had vaccines.

Fighting Tao

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you tested the homeopathic solution, what do you think it would be made up of? I'm getting increasingly sceptical of you doing a science course tbh...

I’ve come across people like that on work. Blatantly lie about experience and what they know. They all get found out very quickly.

skooterblue2

King Mob wrote: »

Yes. As we've been seeing you don't have a very good grasp of science, hence you believe in things like acupuncture, homeopathy and astrology.

On top of that, you have to lie.
Why did you lie about the contents of the vaccine?
Why did you think it was necessary?

I am not lying. There is some horrible stuff in vaccines and stuff they wont stand over.
Actually Acupuncture is over 3 thousand years old since the first emperor. Remember 1 Billion chinese cannot be wrong.

I am happy for you that you feel you have a good GP and he works for you. My poor GP was bullied into it by his father and it shows. Previous GP was only interested in filling prescriptions.

King Mob

begbysback wrote: »

And you have proof that covid has actually been responsible for killing 1.6 million people?

No. I was wrong. I need to correct myself.
1.7 million people now.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

How many people do you believe have been killed by the virus and what proof do you have for that number?
How many people do you believe will be killed by the vaccine?

aido79

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well two weeks of Steroids were worse than sarcoidosis.
about a week and a half of the homeopathy cure...... I was back in school and gaining weight lost by sarcoidosis. Bit of a co-incidence? Doctor cast explain it.

check up 12 essential salts, its routed in Astrology.

I might but back on topic. Doctors can't explain everything about covid19 but yet people like yourself seem to have it sussed. Can you explain that? You seem to just know everything about it past, present and future without doing any proper research, ignoring experts and picking and choosing who to believe based on your own already set in concrete beliefs.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have no idea, I didnt intend to see him as a homeopath, I went to see him as an acupuncturist.

Ah lad, your hilarious :pac:

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

If you tested the homeopathic solution, what do you think it would be made up of? I'm getting increasingly sceptical of you doing a science course tbh...

Just like conventional pill mostly sugar. If I knew what element were in it,then I would be a practitioner.

Timberrrrrrrr

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am not lying. There is some horrible stuff in vaccines and stuff they wont stand over.
Actually Acupuncture is over 3 thousand years old since the first emperor. Remember 1 Billion chinese cannot be wrong.

I am happy for you that you feel you have a good GP and he works for you. My poor GP was bullied into it by his father and it shows. Previous GP was only interested in filling prescriptions.

So if China had a vaccine tomorrow and said it had worked on thier entire population you would take it?

I also think you need a new GP.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Just like conventional pill mostly sugar. If I knew what element were in it,then I would be a practitioner.

How do you know its not something you should be worried about?

King Mob

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am not lying. There is some horrible stuff in vaccines and stuff they wont stand over.

You are lying. You said that the vaccine contained powder aluminium. It doesn't.
You claimed that thimerisol is an adjuvant. It isn't.
You claimed that thimerisol is mercury. It isn't.
You claimed that thimerisol was in the vaccines. It isn't.

You also have not explained what about these ingredients concerns you.

You lied and you dodged the points.

Why did you lie and why are you dodging the points.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Actually Acupuncture is over 3 thousand years old since the first emperor. Remember 1 Billion chinese cannot be wrong.
.

Lol.

Deep Thought

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am not lying. There is some horrible stuff in vaccines and stuff they wont stand over.
Actually Acupuncture is over 3 thousand years old since the first emperor. Remember 1 Billion chinese cannot be wrong.

I am happy for you that you feel you have a good GP and he works for you. My poor GP was bullied into it by his father and it shows. Previous GP was only interested in filling prescriptions.

Horrible “stuff”in vaccines and “stuff” they won’t stand over.

We don’t put stuff in vaccines and we stand over every single thing. Things happen yes, but that is a stunning statement.

Go look at the 510K ( regulatory submissions) we have to provide and show me “stuff”.

I do this every day.. I know my stuff..

skooterblue2

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

I also think you need a new GP.

I am stuck with the fupper. He benefits more than me from our financial chats. Anytime I visit the waiting room is empty.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Just like conventional pill mostly sugar. If I knew what element were in it,then I would be a practitioner.

It would just be sugar and water, there's nothing else in it. It's a placebo... No specialised skills required outside of faking specialised knowledge. There's also a certain irony in the fact you're complaining about what scientists put in vaccines but are happy to defer to the expertise of homeopaths who are snake oil merchants.

skooterblue2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So if China had a vaccine tomorrow and said it had worked on thier entire population you would take it?

In theory yes.... in practice.I havent seen a case of Covid or heard of anyone having covid. So I am good jack but you can have my place.

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

It would just be sugar and water, there's nothing else in it. It's a placebo... No specialised skills required outside of faking specialised knowledge. There's also a certain irony in the fact you're complaining about what scientists put in vaccines but are happy to defer to the expertise of homeopaths who are snake oil merchants.

Homeopath has never done me wrong. Doctors and wrongly prescribed medicine, yeah plenty.

Fighting Tao

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am stuck with the fupper. He benefits more than me from our financial chats. Anytime I visit the waiting room is empty.

You keep repeating that your GP waiting room is empty. It is possibly due to him knowing not to have other appointments lined up when you are there to waste so much of his time.

A quiet surgery is ideal when there is a pandemic. It sounds like he is doing things right.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

It would just be sugar and water, there's nothing else in it. It's a placebo... No specialised skills required outside of faking specialised knowledge. There's also a certain irony in the fact you're complaining about what scientists put in vaccines but are happy to defer to the expertise of homeopaths who are snake oil merchants.

more particularly they are complaining that not all the ingredients are listed in a vaccine when he hasn't got a clue what is in the pills his homeopath gives him and seems happy to take it on trust.

skooterblue2

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

How do you know its not something you should be worried about?

I dont but I trust my practitioner ..... My GP? Everyday he has his shoes on the right feet I am impressed.

King Mob

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

more particularly they are complaining that not all the ingredients are listed in a vaccine when he hasn't got a clue what is in the pills his homeopath gives him and seems happy to take it on trust.

Well it's all based on astrology. So there's no way it could be wrong.

Fighting Tao

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

more particularly they are complaining that not all the ingredients are listed in a vaccine when he hasn't got a clue what is in the pills his homeopath gives him and seems happy to take it on trust.

I can’t figure out how he would know all ingredients are not listed when he doesn’t know what is in a vaccine, nor can he say what is missing from the list.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Homeopath has never done me wrong. Doctors and wrongly prescribed medicine, yeah plenty.

I have some magic beans you might like to buy Jack

skooterblue2

Fighting Tao wrote: »

You keep repeating that your GP waiting room is empty. It is possibly due to him knowing not to have other appointments lined up when you are there to waste so much of his time.

A quiet surgery is ideal when there is a pandemic. It sounds like he is doing things right.

That was two years before the pandemic. :D:D:D Other people as well who I talked to say he is useless.

Fighting Tao

skooterblue2 wrote: »

That was two years before the pandemic. :D:D:D Other people as well who I talked to say he is useless.

I love an efficient doctors surgery. I changed from an inefficient one to an efficient one. My appointments run on time now. It is great. Sounds like your doctor is running a good operation.

skooterblue2

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I love an efficient doctors surgery. I changed from an inefficient one to an efficient one. My appointments run on time now. It is great. Sounds like your doctor is running a good operation.

Did you ever look into a restaurant and it was full and wonder why? Did you ever look at an empty restaurant and wonder why? The good services are always in demand. Ohhhhh to be private.

Fighting Tao

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Did you ever look into a restaurant and it was full and wonder why? Did you ever look at an empty restaurant and wonder why? The good services are always in demand. Ohhhhh to be private.

Completely irrelevant comparison. They are not equals.

skooterblue2

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Completely irrelevant comparison. They are not equals.

I had two GPs at home and the waiting rooms were always full to the brim. This poor lad couldnt sell medicine to save his life.

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I had two GPs at home and the waiting rooms were always full to the brim. This poor lad couldnt sell medicine to save his life.

so they either schedule multiple appointments at the same time or they work on first come first served. Both best avoided.

Fighting Tao

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I had two GPs at home and the waiting rooms were always full to the brim. This poor lad couldnt sell medicine to save his life.

Doctors don’t sell medicine. Are you just here to troll ?

skooterblue2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so they either schedule multiple appointments at the same time or they work on first come first served. Both best avoided.

People dont come back for bad medicine same as bad bread. I only go to my GP to get forms signed because he is crap at medicine.

skooterblue2

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Doctors don’t sell medicine. Are you just here to troll ?

I meant medicine as in the broader sense as in "to practice medicine".

Timberrrrrrrr

skooterblue2 wrote: »

People dont come back for bad medicine same as bad bread. I only go to my GP to get forms signed because he is crap at medicine.

And yet here you are

Still alive

Posting shìte in these threads and telling lies.

skooterblue2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And yet here you are

Still alive

Posting shìte in these threads and telling lies.

ahhhh yet still alive and very health. I could do with losing a few pounds though.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I meant medicine as in the broader sense as in "to practice medicine".

Cool, enjoy your sugar pills but they're most likely going to be useless when you're seriously ill. Meanwhile modern medicine will continue to eliminate things such as polio, smallpox and cancers. Do you think homeopaths could handle them?

runawaybishop

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Cool, enjoy your sugar pills but they're most likely going to be useless when you're seriously ill. Meanwhile modern medicine will continue to eliminate things such as polio, smallpox and cancers. Do you think homeopaths could handle them?

Absolutely.

https://youtu.be/HMGIbOGu8q0

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

Cool, enjoy your sugar pills but they're most likely going to be useless when you're seriously ill. Meanwhile modern medicine will continue to eliminate things such as polio, smallpox and cancers. Do you think homeopaths could handle them?

I honestly have no idea. I am not a homeopathic practitioner. Eastern medicine is different to western medicine. In eastern medicine you pay so you dont get sick, in western medicine you go when you are sick.

When I come across something that affects me that my homeopath can fix I will tell you

King Mob

We are now 140 pages and nearly 2100 posts in.

Not a single coherent conspiracy theory has been produced.

All we have had is nonstop lies, misinformation and complete ignorance on the part of conspiracy theorists.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I honestly have no idea. I am not a homeopathic practitioner. Eastern medicine is different to western medicine. In eastern medicine you pay so you dont get sick, in western medicine you go when you are sick.

When I come across something that affects me that my homeopath can fix I will tell you

So firstly, homeopathy is about two hundred years old was invented by a German so not remotely Eastern. During that period of history where snake oil salesmen entered the English language. Secondly, secondly sugar water makes it pretty clear that it's a placebo so it's gonna do nothing for an illness outside of the placebo effect. And vaccines are pretty clearly preventing a sickness rather than waiting for it to occur....

Btw, you never clarified if you view the mmr vaccine to be good or bad, how about the polio ones? Fyi, that gardasil vaccine you hate so much is responsible for eliminating some of the most deadly forms of cervical cancer. It will save countless lives.

King Mob wrote: »

We are now 140 pages and nearly 2100 posts in.

Not a single coherent conspiracy theory has been produced.

All we have had is nonstop lies, misinformation and complete ignorance on the part of conspiracy theorists.

Also the most poorly informed knowledge of homeopathy from a scientist in training.

aido79

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I honestly have no idea. I am not a homeopathic practitioner. Eastern medicine is different to western medicine. In eastern medicine you pay so you dont get sick, in western medicine you go when you are sick.

When I come across something that affects me that my homeopath can fix I will tell you

If Eastern medicine is so good why are we in the situation we are in now?

silliussoddius

A bit of history of the modern revival of Chinese medicine. I wonder if covid is die to too much, heat, damp etc.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/technology/2013/10/traditional-chinese-medicine-origins-mao-invented-it-but-didnt-believe-in-it.amp

begbysback

King Mob wrote: »

We are now 140 pages and nearly 2100 posts in.

Not a single coherent conspiracy theory has been produced.

All we have had is nonstop lies, misinformation and complete ignorance on the part of conspiracy theorists.

An yet you posted that Covid was responsible for the actual killing of 1.6 million people, which we know not to be factual.

skooterblue2

aido79 wrote: »

If Eastern medicine is so good why are we in the situation we are in now?

what situation would that be?

Have you ever gone to an acupuncturist, Homeopath or the like with a serious complaint?

I am guessing not, which is also fine.

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

So firstly, homeopathy is about two hundred years old was invented by a German so not remotely Eastern.


Also the most poorly informed knowledge of homeopathy from a scientist in training.

I never claimed to have studied over homeopathy. I own a large collection of books but claim never to have studied it.

skooterblue2

silliussoddius wrote: »

A bit of history of the modern revival of Chinese medicine. I wonder if covid is die to too much, heat, damp etc.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/technology/2013/10/traditional-chinese-medicine-origins-mao-invented-it-but-didnt-believe-in-it.amp

hmmmm there is a certain amount of truth in it. CCP did reform and streamline teaching for making it easier for learning, Traditional Chinese Medicine as opposed to classical acupuncture which is slightly more difficult to learn.