The Vaccine

Dohnjoe

Lex Luthor wrote: »

I had a feeling you’d dodge the question to cover up your porkies

In this post, you posted a video

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115718035&postcount=2281

Have you watched that video?

Why did you post it, what claim is it making?

(You've been asked several times about this now)

Fighting Tao

runawaybishop wrote: »

Great addition to the conversation. You always resort to ad hominems when your bull**** is pointed out.

He will most likely disappear for a while again since he has been proven to be telling porkies again.

Lex Luthor

Dohnjoe wrote: »

A lot of people have died as a result of Covid, but the real issue is the threat it poses to national health systems, some of which have come close to being overrun. In order to avoid such an unthinkable scenario countries have had to take more and more extreme measures, including lockdown, which has drastically impacted economies.

So no it's not a "little cold", it's a global pandemic. It's no coincidence that people who don't grasp or understand this also gravitate towards baseless disinformation and ridiculous conspiracy theories. Unless you think there is some marvellous coincidence going on there..

A pandemic based on a flawed testing procedure

Dohnjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

There's 600 people on trollies at this time of year every year..

It's only a "pandemic" since they changed the meaning of the word..

Woah there

Are you claiming there is no pandemic?

Are you claiming that hospitals are operating under normal capacity?

Lex Luthor

Fighting Tao wrote: »

He will most likely disappear for a while again since he has been proven to be telling porkies again.

Nah I’ve got a life pal that I don’t spend 24/7 on a forum

King Mob

valor rorghulis wrote: »

You’re just refusing to listen. I didn’t quote anything in that article aside from what I’d said about the death recording methodology by Varadkar. You still haven’t responded or even acknowledged that point and it’s clear you just don’t want to because you’d rather move the goalposts.

But I have addressed this several times.
That's not how the 1.7 million figure was reached.

You meanwhile have ignored all of my points and are now resorting to bizarre personal attacks.

valor rorghulis wrote: »

As were the swine flu trials before they took them

Checkmate

You claimed that the side effects took "longer than covid has been around" to appear.
This simply isn't true.

They appeared in 1 to 2 months after the vaccine.

This was the only example you have provided of any effects taking a long time to appear from vaccines.

valor rorghulis wrote: »

For someone of my age, strength, genetics, lust for life, determination in the face of adversity, stunning good looks (facial symmetry is an indicator of health) the risk of death is nowhere near 1%. I know this from my line of work.

However, doctors and medical experts disagree with you.
If you have a better, more accurate number, please provide it.

valor rorghulis wrote: »

I covered this in my previous point, it’s a personal choice so I don’t need to justify it to someone who spends as much time on the internet as you do

Nope, you don't have to justify it.
But people are free to point out that it doesn't make any sense and doesn't seem to follow any sort of logic when put up against the facts.

valor rorghulis wrote: »

I’ll go to a doctor if I break my arm or it burns when I pee. They’re good at that because medicine is an applied science and they’re trained for those things. It’s the the biomedical professors and immunologists I’ll listen to when it comes to vitamin D and vaccines

Ok. So all those doctors are wrong.

Is this because you're just better at medicine than them or because they are all part of a conspiracy?

valor rorghulis wrote: »

Well why listen to someone online. Shouldn’t you be conducting double blind placebo controlled trials on conspiracy theorists in lab settings?

Because I can ask people directly what their opinion and position is.
People seem to not want to do that around here and get very triggered when they get asked.

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

A pandemic based on a flawed testing procedure

Going to ignore your lies being pointed out or are you going to retract them forever?

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264

Dohnjoe

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Are you claiming that hospitals are operating under normal capacity?

I am actually claiming this..

Like, you remember last year, do you?.. with the trollies?..

Lex Luthor

Imagine if 1,000 people were up in court for drunk driving based on a test that was done incorrectly and not to standard

All drivers never drank

Do we have a drink driving problem?

kippy

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Imagine if 1,000 people were up in court for drunk driving based on a test that was done incorrectly and not to standard

All drivers never drank

Do we have a drink driving problem?

Not enough data to answer....

buzzerxx

Is Bill Gates a Psychic as well as a Virologist? For most of 2019 he has been talking about an impending pandemic. How did he know?

runawaybishop

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Imagine if 1,000 people were up in court for drunk driving based on a test that was done incorrectly and not to standard

All drivers never drank

Do we have a drink driving problem?

You have a problem with the truth. Post evidence please.

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Imagine if 1,000 people were up in court for drunk driving based on a test that was done incorrectly and not to standard

All drivers never drank

Do we have a drink driving problem?

Deflection again.

So do you accept that you were wrong about animal testing?

runawaybishop

buzzerxx wrote: »

Is Bill Gates a Psychic as well as a Virologist? For most of 2019 he has been talking about an impending pandemic. How did he know?

It's going to rain at some stage. Am I a meteorologist?

We have potential pandemics every few years and conduct pandemic exercises every few years.

King Mob

runawaybishop wrote: »

It's going to rain at some stage. Am I a meteorologist?

We have potential pandemics every few years and conduct pandemic exercises every few years.

It's generally safer to make vague insinuating questions than to directly state "I believe that Bill Gates is involved in the plan to fake the pandemic".

runawaybishop

King Mob wrote: »

It's generally safer to make vague insinuating questions than to directly state "I believe that Bill Gates is involved in the plan to fake the pandemic".

Yeah my favourite tactic is 'I am not saying this, but here is a link to some looper. Don't you find this strange?'

valor rorghulis

King Mob wrote: »

blah blah blah

That entire post was a pisstake. I was simply giving you the same level of respect as you had to me previously. Can’t believe you responded. Take a break and get some air mate

Dohnjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

I am actually claiming this..

Like, you remember last year, do you?.. with the trollies?..

Right, so according to you, this is just a normal year for hospitals and ICU's around the globe?

Dohnjoe

buzzerxx wrote: »

Is Bill Gates a Psychic as well as a Virologist? For most of 2019 he has been talking about an impending pandemic. How did he know?

Source for this?

valor rorghulis

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, you can't..

You actually can still sue bro. What’s special for this one is the government has indemnified big pharma for all that goes wrong with the vaccination. So if you successfully sue it will be paddy taxpayer footing the bill instead of Pfizer’s massive profits

King Mob

valor rorghulis wrote: »

That entire post was a pisstake. I was simply giving you the same level of respect as you had to me previously. Can’t believe you responded. Take a break and get some air mate

Cool. Wasting time and making stuff up.

Dohnjoe

valor rorghulis wrote: »

You actually can still sue bro. What’s special for this one is the government has indemnified big pharma for all that goes wrong with the vaccination. So if you successfully sue it will be paddy taxpayer footing the bill instead of Pfizer’s massive profits

Due to the extraordinary circumstances, "BiG PhArMa" has had to produce vaccines quickly under a tighter timeframe, so in certain cases governments have come to an agreement to cover the liability instead.

How many do you believe have died as a result of Covid globally over the last 9 months?

How many do you believe will die as a result of Covid vaccines over the next 9 months?

Is there a conspiracy going on, if so, what is it?

Lex Luthor

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Going to ignore your lies being pointed out or are you going to retract them forever?

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264

Tested in mice and macaques for a month or so

You think this constitutes proper clinical animal trials?

If you accept this then you’re even more brainwashed than I have you credit for

buzzerxx

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Source for this?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/27/bill-gates-in-2018-world-needs-to-prepare-for-pandemics-just-like-war.html

ohnonotgmail

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Tested in mice and macaques for a month or so

You think this constitutes proper clinical animal trials?

If you accept this then you’re even more brainwashed than I have you credit for

how long do animal trials normally go on for in your research experience?

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Tested in mice and macaques for a month or so

You think this constitutes proper clinical animal trials?

If you accept this then you’re even more brainwashed than I have you credit for

Not quite an admission of lying, but it’ll do

When did you become an expert in vaccine testing?

runawaybishop

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Not quite an admission of lying, but it’ll do

When did you become an expert in vaccine testing?

It's an add-on to the 'masks don't work' course.

Lex Luthor

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

how long do animal trials normally go on for in your research experience?

A lot more than a few months, minimum of a year

And not on mice and macaques

LOL

valor rorghulis

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Due to the extraordinary circumstances, "BiG PhArMa" has had to produce vaccines quickly under a tighter timeframe, so in certain cases governments have come to an agreement to cover the liability instead.

How many do you believe have died as a result of Covid globally over the last 9 months?

How many do you believe will die as a result of Covid vaccines over the next 9 months?

Is there a conspiracy going on, if so, what is it?

What did I say was incorrect in that post?

ohnonotgmail

Lex Luthor wrote: »

A lot more than a few months, minimum of a year

And not on mice and macaques

LOL

source for this?

Lex Luthor

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

how long do animal trials normally go on for in your research experience?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

source for this?

Look it up yourself
It’s not that difficult

That way when you find it for yourself you can’t accuse me of supplying a source you can rebuff

ohnonotgmail

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Look it up yourself
It’s not that difficult

That way when you find it for yourself you can’t accuse me of supplying a source you can rebuff

LOL. You haven't a scooby.

Quiner

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Going to ignore your lies being pointed out or are you going to retract them forever?

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/status/1343212450729107456

Lex Luthor

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

LOL. You haven't a scooby.

Admit it, you’re just afraid to look cos you’re going to embarrass yourself

Either that and you’ve looked and you can’t face the music

It does however look like they got their wish and will get their live animal testing on millions of sheep

ohnonotgmail

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Admit it, you’re just afraid to look cos you’re going to embarrass yourself

Either that and you’ve looked and you can’t face the music

It does however look like they got their wish and will get their live animal testing on millions of sheep

I haven't bothered looking at all. You still dont have a scooby. You've been making **** up from the start.

Lex Luthor

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I haven't bothered looking at all. You still dont have a scooby. You've been making **** up from the start.

Never stop just because you feel defeated. The journey to the other side is attainable only after great suffering.

Fighting Tao

Quiner wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/status/1343212450729107456

What does that have to do with animal testing of vaccines? Just link dumping again!

kippy

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Never stop just because you feel defeated. The journey to the other side is attainable only after great suffering.

So back to basics.
What is the conspiracy here?

Quiner

Fighting Tao wrote: »

What does that have to do with animal testing of vaccines? Just link dumping again!

You replied to the following post:

"A pandemic based on a flawed testing procedure"

My reply was to your reply to that post.

Fighting Tao

Quiner wrote: »

You replied to the following post:

"A pandemic based on a flawed testing procedure"

My reply was to your reply to that post.

Go read back a few posts and come back to me when you have caught up with the conversation.

Fighting Tao

kippy wrote: »

So back to basics.
What is the conspiracy here?

It will be interesting to see how it has morphed.

Quiner

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Go read back a few posts and come back to me when you have caught up with the conversation.

Forget about it.

Fighting Tao

Quiner wrote: »

Forget about it.

Sorry for pulling you up on another link dump.

Quiner

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Sorry for pulling you up on another link dump.

Doesn't matter

King Mob

So gonna assume that none of the resident covid denialists have actually read any of the studies that show the vaccines are safe and effective?

storker

Lex Luthor wrote: »

who says that it will be against peoples will

you will be chipped one day to prove you got a vaccine

Ah, perhaps I missed something. To clarify, you're not claiming that microchips will be delivered into people via the vaccine without their knowledge? Actually, let me make this even clearer/easier:

A. Lex Luthor believes that microchips will be delivered into people via the vaccine without their knowledge.

B. Lex Luthor does not believe that microchips will be delivered into people via the vaccine without their knowledge.

Please indicate whether A or B applies.

storker

King Mob wrote: »

So gonna assume that none of the resident covid denialists have actually read any of the studies that show the vaccines are safe and effective?

Don't be daft. They've already got a backlog of YouTube videos to pretend they've watched...

Lex Luthor

storker wrote: »

Ah, perhaps I missed something. To clarify, you're not claiming that microchips will be delivered into people via the vaccine without their knowledge? Actually, let me make this even clearer/easier:

A. Lex Luthor believes that microchips will be delivered into people via the vaccine without their knowledge.

B. Lex Luthor does not believe that microchips will be delivered into people via the vaccine without their knowledge.

Please indicate whether A or B applies.

A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand

Quiner

King Mob wrote: »

So gonna assume that none of the resident covid denialists have actually read any of the studies that show the vaccines are safe and effective?

Have you read every single word of the studies? Have you researched and read about every single chemical contained in the vaccines?

Trigger

Lex Luthor wrote: »

A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand

storker wrote: »

Don't be daft. They've already got a backlog of YouTube videos to pretend they've watched...

Mod: up the standard please, these posts do nothing for the discussion.

Lex, this is your final warning