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What accusations? What's wrong with a bit of transparency?
Can you provide a link to the accounts of any other county ? Thanks.
If you are all for accountability and transparency in the ‘sport’... why are you not determined to see every county accounts, see every county be equally transparent....see it across the board, why do you just want Dublin’s accounts ?
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Can you provide a link to the accounts of any other county ? Thanks.
If you are all for accountability and transparency in the ‘sport’... why are you not determined to see every county accounts, see every county be equally transparent....see it across the board, why do you just want Dublin’s accounts ?
I totally agree that all counties accounts should be made available however I would presume the interest in the Dublin accounts is because they received and continue to receive way more money than anyone else.0 -
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Can you provide a link to the accounts of any other county ? Thanks.
If you are all for accountability and transparency in the ‘sport’... why are you not determined to see every county accounts, see every county be equally transparent....see it across the board, why do you just want Dublin’s accounts ?
Of course, there should be transparency across the board, why shouldn't there be?0 -
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Of course, there should be transparency across the board, why shouldn't there be?
Well, you should be calling for change to enable every account in every county to be public and transparent... but actually, no, you only asked for Dublin’s
For the record, there is no obligation on complete transparency. But Dublin DO publish their numbers. Google is your friend.0 -
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Well, you should be calling for change to enable every account in every county to be public and transparent... but actually, no, you only asked for Dublin’s
For the record, there is no obligation on complete transparency. But Dublin DO publish their numbers. Google is your friend.
Dublin don't publish their accounts. The reason I'm interested in Dublin's is because they have received huge sums which has completely changed the landscape of our association and not for the better.0 -
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Excellent, so we now realise it is for the development of Gaelic Games at primary school level., in schools and not at club level and not funding IC. Cheers, glad you cleared that up.
When did I ever say anything else?
It's quite simple:
1 - Substantial amounts of money from central funds were made available to Dublin, to promote gaelic games amongst boys and girls of primary school age, attract more of them to become involved, and provide better coaching to them after they became involved. This was done via both schools and clubs.
2 - The central funding immediately removed the need for Dublin County Board to fund any such initiative itself. This meant its own money could be spent in other areas, such as on inter-county teams.
3 - The investment in primary school children ten to fifteen years ago (via central funds, on a scale never before or since available to any other county) is now paying off handsomely on the inter-county scene, in both men's and women's football.
If you're really denying a link between the investment back then and the successes of today, then what you're actually saying is that the investment didn't work at all, and that therefore the money was wasted....which actually strengthens any argument that Dublin should never have got it at all.0 -
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When did I ever say anything else?
It's quite simple:
1 - Substantial amounts of money from central funds were made available to Dublin, to promote gaelic games amongst boys and girls of primary school age, attract more of them to become involved, and provide better coaching to them after they became involved. This was done via both schools and clubs.
2 - The central funding immediately removed the need for Dublin County Board to fund any such initiative itself. This meant its own money could be spent in other areas, such as on inter-county teams.
3 - The investment in primary school children ten to fifteen years ago (via central funds, on a scale never before or since available to any other county) is now paying off handsomely on the inter-county scene, in both men's and women's football.
If you're really denying a link between the investment back then and the successes of today, then what you're actually saying is that the investment didn't work at all, and that therefore the money was wasted....which actually strengthens any argument that Dublin should never have got it at all.
There you go again, making assumptions. The monies involved were for the promotion of gaelic games in primary schools. They were not at elite athlete development. I am not sure how you measure success from it, but my guess is the numbers that were encouraged to take up gaelic games would be the best metric. Now how you measure that against which one go onto IC level we will never know. What I do know from coaching kids is that the ones who make IC level were already playing our games. The one encouraged were the ones we would as an association usually lose by way of lack of interest or following another sport.
Would you prefer that our games were not promoted? I am all for a games development plan to enhance playing numbers in other counties. Kildare were offered funding for GDO's and turned it down. Is that the fault of the GAA?0 -
There you go again, making assumptions.
Am now doubly confused, so since I used three of the emojis the last time, here I go with six:
The only thing you could possibly interpret as an assumption rather than an absolute fact in what I wrote above is where I said the investment in primary school age children ten to fifteen years ago is now feeding into the current day success.
So again - are you really claiming there's no link whatsoever between the two? When answering, please consider that even the ones who were already playing gaelic games would have benefitted from increased levels of coaching.
As regards promoting gaelic games in general - I've previously said that of course I'm in favour of it. I just think that if central funding is used for it, either from State sources or GAA sources, then it should be done in a fair and proportionate manner across the board, and not concentrated in any particular area.
It's not an anti-Dublin thing. I've also previously said I'd be opposed to a suggestion by somebody else here, several pages back, that " the GAA should now concentrate on other urban areas such as Sligo, Belfast and Drogheda". What about the rest of counties Sligo, Antrim, and Louth, and every other county too?
Even here in Wexford, I'm not fond of how the County Board makes greater coaching resources available to clubs and schools in Wexford town than they do to the rest of the county.
Maybe I'm unusual in that I care about the Association as a whole. Far too many others only really care about their own back yard.0 -
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