Will you take an approved COVID-19 vaccine?

AssetBacked2

I'm not against getting it but in general I am of negligible risk to covid (age but more particularly health reasons) so it isn't something I'm going to get "just because". Especially without doing some sort of test to see if I've already had covid.

However, if our politicians, president and health officials get it then I'd probably reconsider.

Galwayguy35

I will take it but will wait a few months before getting it, would have to wait anyway I reckon because it will take a while before they give it to healthy people.

Doc07

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Now maybe thats what they have to do with regards to a public health message. But my takeaway from that is they have not been - and granted, maybe cannot be - totally honest with us.

And by extension of that I fully expect them to be not fully honest with regards to vaccine risks either.

And obviously I'm not the only one thinking that way.

Any known risks of any approved vaccine will be published and available to anyone who wants to read it before they take a vaccine. If new risks become apparent after mass vaccination begins they will also be published and added to the product information and the benefit /risk ratio of the vaccine will be regularity appraised, independent of the vaccine manufacturers.

johnire

Most definitely I'll be getting the vaccine.
I just don't understand the logic of people who say they're not going to get it.
A friend of mine is adamant she won't get it as she doesn't trust it etc etc. The same person is absolutely petrified of contracting Covid and follows the restrictions to the letter of the law which I most definitely applaud her for. What she doesn't seem to understand though is that all these restrictions- the lockdowns, social distancing, masks etc which are in place at the moment will disappear once people start getting vaccinated. That's the whole point- life goes back to normal. So all these protections she currently has will be gone but Covid will still be out there. She cannot seem to get that point. Very frustrating!!

plodder

tamara25 wrote: »

Definitely won’t be getting it. People have a very short memory, remember the swine flu vaccine & narcolepsy....

No, I think people are well aware of that. It was discussed on the other thread and I don't know how to link to the page, but here are some informative posts from it:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115397280&postcount=6808

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115397908&postcount=6816

PhantomHat

johnire wrote: »

Most definitely I'll be getting the vaccine.
I just don't understand the logic of people who say they're not going to get it.
A friend of mine is adamant she won't get it as she doesn't trust it etc etc. The same person is absolutely petrified of contracting Covid and follows the restrictions to the letter of the law which I most definitely applaud her for. What she doesn't seem to understand though is that all these restrictions- the lockdowns, social distancing, masks etc which are in place at the moment will disappear once people start getting vaccinated. That's the whole point- life goes back to normal. So all these protections she currently has will be gone but Covid will still be out there. She cannot seem to get that point. Very frustrating!!

It'll be some time before things finally return to normal if they ever will. Dr Anthony Fauci has recently said in an interview that social distancing and masks will still be necessary after getting the vaccine.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/social-distancing-masks-necessary-after-getting-vaccine-fauci/

johnire

Absolutely- I completely understand that those measures won't disappear overnight but in time they will. But my point is the risk to those who refuse to have the vaccine will massively increase as all the things that are currently in place to protect us will either be gone or as good as gone.

PhantomHat wrote: »

It'll be some time before things finally return to normal if they ever will. Dr Anthony Fauci has recently said in an interview that social distancing and masks will still be necessary after getting the vaccine.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/social-distancing-masks-necessary-after-getting-vaccine-fauci/

Plumbthedepths

PhantomHat wrote: »

It'll be some time before things finally return to normal if they ever will. Dr Anthony Fauci has recently said in an interview that social distancing and masks will still be necessary after getting the vaccine.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/social-distancing-masks-necessary-after-getting-vaccine-fauci/

Just on the point of will things ever return to normal, pervious pandemic history has taught us that they will and very quickly. If social distancing remained a thing after the Spanish flu for example our species would be on the verge of extinction.

Thierry12

I will take one for sure

Will they work, probably not as good as we think.

Will they be safe, yes 99.999% safe for sure

Until they have challenge trials and actually infect people deliberately, I don't believe any of these 90% efficacious numbers

When the world opens up again with no restrictions, jam packed discos, concerts, raves then we will know if they work at 90%

Or actually we won't ever know if they work at 90%, because by the time restrictions are over we won't be mass testing Covid anymore and we will presume they do work and the hospital cases we get were the unlucky ones that immunity ran out or just didnt work etc

Its not as if these vaccines come with a guarantee that they will work for 6 months, 12 months, 18 months etc

You might be unlucky and it doesn't work for you is as far as the guarantee goes

TP_CM

Very surprised with the result of this poll considering the hesitancy I have encountered in day to day life. I'm struggling to find anyone who will get the vaccine. One lady in work said she would.

landofthetree

Yes. Mainly because I want to go abroad for holidays.

I'm worried that I won't get access to till late 2021 as I'm not in an at risk category.

Supposedly this is the order it will happen in the UK and something similar might happen here. I'm not on the list.



1. Care home residents & staff
2. 80+
3. 75+
4. 70+
5. 65+
6. High risk adults under 65
7. Moderate risk adults under 65
8. 60+
9. 55+
10. 50+

Fodla

I'd rather not take one, but if I had to then I'd take either the Oxford one or Sputnik V.

On Fauci, I wouldn't pay too much attention to that man. He changes his mind every 5 minutes.

Fodla

TP_CM wrote: »

Very surprised with the result of this poll considering the hesitancy I have encountered in day to day life. I'm struggling to find anyone who will get the vaccine. One lady in work said she would.

But do you think it's a representative poll?

TP_CM

landofthetree wrote: »

Yes.

I'm worried that I won't get access to till late 2021 as I'm not in an at risk category.

Out of interest, if the at-risk side of the population were safe from the virus, would you still quarantine? I'm the same as you, I am low risk, but I think I would have no problem going out and socialising to some extent.

TP_CM

Fodla wrote: »

But do you think it's a representative poll?

Well about 90% of my close circle (family friends and work) work in IT jobs. I feel like there are a lot of IT people on here? So I was expecting to see the same kind of lean towards "Yes but not straight away" or "No".

igCorcaigh

Yes, when it's my turn.

Micky 32

Yes, mainly so i can travel to family again.

Fodla

TP_CM wrote: »

Well about 90% of my close circle (family friends and work) work in IT jobs. I feel like there are a lot of IT people on here? So I was expecting to see the same kind of lean towards "Yes but not straight away" or "No".

I see. I wonder is it more that people are tired of lockdowns and restrictions so will jump at the chance to take a vaccine.

I will only get one if required to in order to travel.

lennyloulou

TP_CM wrote: »

Very surprised with the result of this poll considering the hesitancy I have encountered in day to day life. I'm struggling to find anyone who will get the vaccine. One lady in work said she would.

I do not think people will get these vaccines.
Read the ingredients.... madness

Fodla

lennyloulou wrote: »

I do not think people will get these vaccines.
Read the ingredients.... madness

Are vaccination rates high in Ireland, out of interest? I never get the flu vaccine. I'm not sure what the uptake is every year.

TP_CM

lennyloulou wrote: »

I do not think people will get these vaccines.
Read the ingredients.... madness

I think the media will pump out photo after photo of people like Obama, Leo V, Mary Lou, Michael Martin, and even Kanye and Kim getting it to persuade every type of person out there that they're alone if they don't. In the end it will be uncool and unpopular to not get it, much like the current set of non-covid vaccines. It's just a mindset that needs changing. News can do that in a few weeks.

titan18

If someone gave me one tomorrow, I would not take it. After 3-4 months of rollout with tens or hundreds of millions of people vaccinated already, I will. Always possible there'll be long term effects that are still unknown but seems likely that the vast majority of side effects and interactions with other drugs will be known by then

Delta2113

Do it per regions - so say Dublin and if you don't get it your next turn could be 6 months. That might focus the minds.

You may not be able to fly. Even talk won't be able to go to a Concert until you can prove you got the vaccine.

D.Q

I've been on boards for 12 years now. Not the longest by any means but a good stretch all the same.

I don't know if its a recent thing, or if its just something I'm noticing more or what exactly has changed, however, this site, while obviously great for an Irish look at things, but right wing, conspiracy theorist, anti vax types seem to be popping up across all the different forums more and more.

Could just be something that's spreading through society in general, but whatever the reason, this site is no longer an accurate cross section of the Irish population as a whole.

This vaccine will be widely and eagerly taken by the general public. Despite the rhetoric from the vocal minority on boards.

Deeper Blue

D.Q wrote: »

I've been on boards for 12 years now. Not the longest by any means but a good stretch all the same.

I don't know if its a recent thing, or if its just something I'm noticing more or what exactly has changed, however, this site, while obviously great for an Irish look at things, but right wing, conspiracy theorist, anti vax types seem to be popping up across all the different forums more and more.

Could just be something that's spreading through society in general, but whatever the reason, this site is no longer an accurate cross section of the Irish population as a whole.

This vaccine will be widely and eagerly taken by the general public. Despite the rhetoric from the vocal minority on boards.

I could've written that post myself, I've noticed the same thing (and I'm also on the site 12 years!)

TRANQUILLO

El Sueño wrote: »

I could've written that post myself, I've noticed the same thing (and I'm also on the site 12 years!)

id argue that both "wings" are well represented and its lacking in centrists.

Sleeper12

I am usually pro vaccinations. I'm early 50s with no underlying health issues. I don't feel the need to rush out & get this. I'll be close to the bottom of the waiting list anyway. I might not be offered it till June. It could be on the market 6 months before I get it. Most if not all the kinks should be ironed out by then

grogi

Delta2113 wrote: »

Do it per regions - so say Dublin and if you don't get it your next turn could be 6 months. That might focus the minds.

You may not be able to fly. Even talk won't be able to go to a Concert until you can prove you got the vaccine.

Better way is to have a sector with vaccinated people and a sector where all are non vaccinated. That will make one really re-evaluate their position without opening to limiting ones freedom argument...

johnire

So a question to the people who aren't getting the vaccine...... you do realise that your chances are contacting Covid will increase hugely once a vaccine programme commences and the restrictions and safeguards that are in place at the moment will be lifted permanently? Does this bother you?

storker

simongurnick wrote: »

As for me, sign me up. I know it was quick to develop, but there has also never been the amount of money and resources thrown at developing a vaccine before and some groundwork had already been done with Sars and Mers.
.

Exactly. A lot of anti-vaxxers seem to give themselves away by describing the vaccine as "rushed" just because it arrived quickly. If a bricklayer takes 3 days to build a wall, but 3 bricklayers get together and do it in a single day, that doesn't mean the wall was "rushed".

Darc19

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Won't be taking it. And I don't care what airlines or governments say. I'm entitled to a holiday and I'll be visiting without any covid vaccine. Nobody is going to force me to put this untested junk in my body. I took enough to last me a life time when travelling around South America and I'm pretty sure the 10 year yellow fever one killed lots of my brain cells.

" I'm pretty sure the 10 year yellow fever one killed lots of my brain cells."


I fully agree with that part of your post.


As for the vaccine, sign me up for the first dose.

lawred2

Delta2113 wrote: »

Do it per regions - so say Dublin and if you don't get it your next turn could be 6 months. That might focus the minds.

You may not be able to fly. Even talk won't be able to go to a Concert until you can prove you got the vaccine.

Yeah that won't happen

Fodla

johnire wrote: »

So a question to the people who aren't getting the vaccine...... you do realise that your chances are contacting Covid will increase hugely once a vaccine programme commences and the restrictions and safeguards that are in place at the moment will be lifted permanently? Does this bother you?

Doesn't bother me. The risk is miniscule. And I'd be happy to take the risk.

ceegee

lennyloulou wrote: »

I do not think people will get these vaccines.
Read the ingredients.... madness

Which ingredients in particular do you have an issue with? And could you link a site that list these ingredients

Yes, over 50, diabetes and respiratory condition.

Plus I live with someone who has a heart condition. So even if I didn't have underlying conditions, I'd get vaccinated to minimise the risk of bringing it home to them.

banie01

Yes, as soon as it's available.
I'm not so hypocritical that I'll quote stats to an anti-vaxxer while hanging back myself.

I'm in a vulnerable category, and I don't think I should be in the 1st wave.
1st line workers, highly vulnerable people and those at highest risk and highest exposure should get it 1st.

I'll wait my turn, and then be happy I get it.

The efforts of scientists worldwide in both developing and testing multiple vaccines is a wonder of science.
The mRNA work on one strain of vaccines, versus the easier to distribute Oxford vaccine and indeed the contribution of many Irish researchers at the Jenner Institute...
Is amazing, and honestly it opens a whole new vista in medicine.

virginmediapls

D.Q wrote: »

I've been on boards for 12 years now. Not the longest by any means but a good stretch all the same.

I don't know if its a recent thing, or if its just something I'm noticing more or what exactly has changed, however, this site, while obviously great for an Irish look at things, but right wing, conspiracy theorist, anti vax types seem to be popping up across all the different forums more and more.

Could just be something that's spreading through society in general, but whatever the reason, this site is no longer an accurate cross section of the Irish population as a whole.

This vaccine will be widely and eagerly taken by the general public. Despite the rhetoric from the vocal minority on boards.

Noticed, and have posted about, the same thing. Weird right-wing, pro-Trump, anti-vax oddballs all over the shop these days.

touts

Absolutely. Sign me up.

But if you don't want to take it fine. It's just there should be ongoing Level 5 lockdown for anyone who doesn't take it until we are 6 months without a case. No pubs, restaurants etc. Only essential shopping. Masks in public areas. No overseas travel. In fact no travel outside your county. No access to sporting facilities (either as a spectator or a participant). No Cinemas, Theaters etc. No access to public transportation.

Level 0 for the rest of us.

If you don't believe in science you don't get to experience th benefits of a lifestyle whose foundation is science.

TRANQUILLO

touts wrote: »

Absolutely. Sign me up.

But if you don't want to take it fine. It's just there should be ongoing Level 5 lockdown for anyone who doesn't take it until we are 6 months without a case. No pubs, restaurants etc. Only essential shopping. Masks in public areas. No overseas travel. In fact no travel outside your county. No access to sporting facilities (either as a spectator or a participant). No Cinemas, Theaters etc. No access to public transportation.

Level 0 for the rest of us.

If you don't believe in science you don't get to experience th benefits of a lifestyle whose foundation is science.

presumably they will be tax exempt for the duration they are not allowed partake in your utopia ?

Fodla

touts wrote: »

Absolutely. Sign me up.

But if you don't want to take it fine. It's just there should be ongoing Level 5 lockdown for anyone who doesn't take it until we are 6 months without a case. No pubs, restaurants etc. Only essential shopping. Masks in public areas. No overseas travel. In fact no travel outside your county. No access to sporting facilities (either as a spectator or a participant). No Cinemas, Theaters etc. No access to public transportation.

Level 0 for the rest of us.

If you don't believe in science you don't get to experience th benefits of a lifestyle whose foundation is science.

A frightening post.

ExMachina1000

Some people wont but they will pretend that they did.

Doubtful that the waiter at the local Indian restaurant or the till assistant in sports direct will be asking you for your "papers"

refusetolose

would someone who has taken the vaccine still be able to pass the virus on to others?

speckle

Fodla wrote: »

A frightening post.

I agree, possibly trolling? Obviously they have never heard of people, though in a minority, who cant take vaccines due to previous serious adverse reactions or just are non responsders to vaccines.. even some hospital staff get waivers. And some people with certain autoimmune conditions cannot get certain vaccines at times like those with RA and the yellow fever vaccine. Are they never meant to have a social life again? They might as well go to the grave now.

oh and what about people already immune? Do we know the vaccines effect on them yet? I dont think so,as I havent seen any scientific research yet but awaiting links from anyone?

Away With The Fairies

I was always in two minds about the vaccine and I still am. Hoping by the time my time comes around to get the vaccine, there will be more information out there and if there's any adverse reactions.

Plumbthedepths

touts wrote: »

Absolutely. Sign me up.

But if you don't want to take it fine. It's just there should be ongoing Level 5 lockdown for anyone who doesn't take it until we are 6 months without a case. No pubs, restaurants etc. Only essential shopping. Masks in public areas. No overseas travel. In fact no travel outside your county. No access to sporting facilities (either as a spectator or a participant). No Cinemas, Theaters etc. No access to public transportation.

Level 0 for the rest of us.

If you don't believe in science you don't get to experience th benefits of a lifestyle whose foundation is science.

Amazing that someone actually thanked the above nonsense.

sabat

touts wrote: »

Absolutely. Sign me up.

But if you don't want to take it fine. It's just there should be ongoing Level 5 lockdown for anyone who doesn't take it until we are 6 months without a case. No pubs, restaurants etc. Only essential shopping. Masks in public areas. No overseas travel. In fact no travel outside your county. No access to sporting facilities (either as a spectator or a participant). No Cinemas, Theaters etc. No access to public transportation.

Level 0 for the rest of us.

If you don't believe in science you don't get to experience th benefits of a lifestyle whose foundation is science.

Dystopian...

bloopy

touts wrote: »

Absolutely. Sign me up.

But if you don't want to take it fine. It's just there should be ongoing Level 5 lockdown for anyone who doesn't take it until we are 6 months without a case. No pubs, restaurants etc. Only essential shopping. Masks in public areas. No overseas travel. In fact no travel outside your county. No access to sporting facilities (either as a spectator or a participant). No Cinemas, Theaters etc. No access to public transportation.

Level 0 for the rest of us.

If you don't believe in science you don't get to experience th benefits of a lifestyle whose foundation is science.

What type of infrastructure will operate such a system?

Akrasia

titan18 wrote: »

If someone gave me one tomorrow, I would not take it. After 3-4 months of rollout with tens or hundreds of millions of people vaccinated already, I will. Always possible there'll be long term effects that are still unknown but seems likely that the vast majority of side effects and interactions with other drugs will be known by then

There are long term effects from everything, long term effect of being alive, is being dead

Apart from that, breathing in smoke, eating burnt toast, going outside on a sunny day, drinking alcohol, watching tv, having sex, not having sex... everything has long term effects and potential long term effects

The vaccines have been tested. For safety, they’re safer than going for a walk in the woods and risking lime disease, or not going from that walk and risking depression or obesity

If 8 billion people get this vaccine in the next 10 years, millions of people will die soon after, just from the law of big numbers. Millions have already died from this virus in less than. 1 year

Plumbthedepths

Akrasia wrote: »

There are long term effects from everything, long term effect of being alive, is being dead

Apart from that, breathing in smoke, eating burnt toast, going outside on a sunny day, drinking alcohol, watching tv, having sex, not having sex... everything has long term effects and potential long term effects

The vaccines have been tested. For safety, they’re safer than going for a walk in the woods and risking lime disease, or not going from that walk and risking depression or obesity

If 8 billion people get this vaccine in the next 10 years, millions of people will die soon after, just from the law of big numbers. Millions have already died from this virus in less than. 1 year

'Millions have already died from this virus in less than a 1 year'
What information have you got that others haven't?https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?%22%20%5Cl%20%22countries

Akrasia

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I was always in two minds about the vaccine and I still am. Hoping by the time my time comes around to get the vaccine, there will be more information out there and if there's any adverse reactions.

All drugs have some adverse reactions. The question with vaccines is whether the risk of suffering a reaction is significantly lower than the risk of that same person succumbing to that disease

If you have a .01% chance of dying from a virus and the vaccine has a .0001% chance of making you blind, you should take the vaccine purely out of self interest, but also out of public health interest