Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

ACitizenErased

Incidence has dropped across all age categories in last 7 days according to Holohan

manofwisdom

Seamai wrote: »

It seems that on the days when the positive swab figure is low they manage to find a backlog to add in.

seems to be the case alot .

ACitizenErased

2/3 of deaths linked to hospital/nursing home outbreaks

ElJeffe

Awful numbers yet again. Not in a good place going out of lockdown unfortunately

Harry Palmr

seamus wrote: »

Those regional outbreaks are still holding us back. Every time we get on top of one, another seems to pop up elsewhere.

And the persistence of Dublin

They'll be jumps in the four hurling semi finalist counties in 10-14 days

Golfman64

I would really like to see a similar presentation to that of NPHET given by the Department of Finance comparing how we have performed vs other countries in Europe in terms of the overall economic performance, unemployment rate, small business closures etc. This would then able a balanced review of the health measures vs economic impact to see if we have chosen the right path in all of this in particular for the so called second wave throughout Europe.

As it stands, it is undoubted that we have performed better from a medical perspective when compared to many countries throughout Europe but this is only one piece of the equation.

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Incidence has dropped across all age categories in last 7 days according to Holohan

Indisputable fact.

ElJeffe wrote: »

Awful numbers yet again. Not in a good place going out of lockdown unfortunately

Alarmist opinion.

I tend to lean strongly towards indisputable facts.

Happydays2020

ElJeffe wrote: »

Awful numbers yet again. Not in a good place going out of lockdown unfortunately

If we are awful with the lowest numbers in the EU, how would you describe Croatia’s numbers?

bb1234567

https://twitter.com/OBusybody/status/1333453858190848012/photo/1

is_that_so

Golfman64 wrote: »

I would really like to see a similar presentation to that of NPHET given by the Department of Finance comparing how we have performed vs other countries in Europe in terms of the overall economic performance, unemployment rate, small business closures etc. This would then able a balanced review of the health measures vs economic impact to see if we have chosen the right path in all of this in particular for the so called second wave throughout Europe.

As it stands, it is undoubted that we have performed better from a medical perspective when compared to many countries throughout Europe but this is only one piece of the equation.

Just to clarify who NPHET are once again - the MoH creates it as required. They are not a statutory body and are only there to give advice. If Donnelly wanted he could dissolve it tomorrow. Once this is over they'll all go back to their day jobs.

DellyBelly

ElJeffe wrote: »

Awful numbers yet again. Not in a good place going out of lockdown unfortunately

Yes terrible we are gone over 300 again.. I wonder if after the announcement on Friday people took their eye off the ball again.. Looks like it

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

Just to clarify who NPHET are once again - the MoH creates it as required. They are not a statutory body and are only there to give advice. If Donnelly wanted he could dissolve it tomorrow. Once this is over they'll all go back to their day jobs.

A comforting thought to luxuriate in. Question is whether certain members of the public will return to their day jobs after the damage NPHET and the Government have inflicted.

podgeandrodge

Forcing them to produce food onsite is bollix. MM clearly spoke about the 'different dynamic' of having a meal vs just pints. But no journalist asks him to justify this rule. Sure, it'll reduce number of pubs opening, but public buy in is got from logical and fair rules, not crap like this.

Widdensushi

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Any chance of a briefing today?

What happened to the 450 cases in kilkenny, another cover up???????

Zebra3

is_that_so wrote: »

Just to clarify who NPHET are once again - the MoH creates it as required. They are not a statutory body and are only there to give advice. If Donnelly wanted he could dissolve it tomorrow. Once this is over they'll all go back to their day jobs.

Would be political suicide for him.

People are hooked on NPHET.

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1333477266693775360

Zebra3

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1333477266693775360

Concerned.

There's news.

manofwisdom

Journalist Richard Chambers playing dumb or unaware of the 7,14 day averages, daily positive swab counts etc?

Widdensushi

is_that_so wrote: »

Just to clarify who NPHET are once again - the MoH creates it as required. They are not a statutory body and are only there to give advice. If Donnelly wanted he could dissolve it tomorrow. Once this is over they'll all go back to their day jobs.

If you hire someone to give advice you expect it to be confidential, while we need transparency and obviously the two don't go together, NPHET are going too far with the media game

stephenjmcd

Zebra3 wrote: »

Concerned.

There's news.

Whats the worry meter at today

wadacrack

Zebra3 wrote: »

Concerned.

There's news.

Was referring to the good news about vaccination

is_that_so

Widdensushi wrote: »

If you hire someone to give advice you expect it to be confidential, while we need transparency and obviously the two don't go together, NPHET are going too far with the media game

I think the Cabinet sub-committee is the best thing the government has done in relation to this but I'd agree they have developed "notions" over the nine months about how important they are. I think they've done a decent job but I wont miss them!

KrustyUCC

Well people can come together in restaurants or else in people's homes

One is regulated

One isn't

Glynn knows that

Arghus

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Well people can come together in restaurants or else in people's homes

One is regulated

One isn't

Glynn knows that

It's not an either or. No one is forcing people to have big meet ups in their homes.

wadacrack

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Well people can come together in restaurants or else in people's homes

One is regulated

One isn't

Glynn knows that

You need good ventilation in these settings. Distance is not enough

AlmightyCushion

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Well people can come together in restaurants or else in people's homes

One is regulated

One isn't

Glynn knows that

One is mixing with groups of strangers, one is not.

Ted_YNWA

Mod

Gael23 threadban has been lifted.

ACitizenErased

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

One is mixing with groups of strangers, one is not.

Socially distanced from other groups. I'd hardly describe it as 'mixing'.

KrustyUCC

Arghus wrote: »

It's not
an either or. No one is forcing people to have big meet ups in their homes.

If you don't give people social outlets to meet people then the only option left to them is meeting in homes

Neither needs to be big numbers

The most I've been out with in a restaurant this year is 4 people

2 couples

Widdensushi

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

One is mixing with groups of strangers, one is not.

Makes sense, only strangers can have it