Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

Golfman64

Banging the alcohol drum again...

Arghus

Amazed that it took them as long as this to wear masks coming in and out of the pressers. Even just to underline the message they are trying to get across.

Tpcl20

Why was there a big sign saying stay 5km from your home, I thought that's gone from tomorrow? I was looking forward to going for a spin.

Tony abandoning his objective veneer in the final moments of press conference: "I'm reluctant to blame a particular sector of society but we've seen alcohol as a significant factor in driving case numbers."

What a dishonest, biased charlatan. What percentage of cases are attributed to pubs Tony? Under 0.3%. Vendetta against traditional publicans all too obvious.

ACitizenErased

I'm baffled how some still cannot grasp why houses are more dangerous than pubs/restaurants. The numbers don't lie. Look at the HPSC data.

Tpcl20

Arghus wrote: »

Amazed that it took them as long as this to wear masks coming in and out of the pressers. Even just to underline the message they are trying to get across.

It really shouldn't have taken this long. Also they've spaced out properly to 2m, I don't recall that being as obvious before.

boggerman1

Tony’s concerned yawn.change the record.a lot of the population have moved on.get on with their jobs and make sure ye don’t make a balls of the vaccine roll out

wadacrack

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm baffled how some still cannot grasp why houses are more dangerous than pubs/restaurants. The numbers don't lie. Look at the HPSC data.

Superspreading events occur in restaurants/pubs not in people homes. The data regarding community transmission and household transmission has many limitations especially with very poor contact tracing

Widdensushi

Tony is like all the covid test manufacturers now, wondering what they will do now that the vaccine is so close

AlmightyCushion

Widdensushi wrote: »

Makes sense, only strangers can have it

No. If you have it and go to a friend's house, you might give it to your friends. If you see those friends in a pub or restaurant, you might give it to your friends, the staff, other people in the pub/restaurant. The chances of it spreading is higher and the number of potential people it can spread to is also higher. I thought this was pretty obvious but I guess not.

wadacrack

wadacrack wrote: »

Superspreading events occur in restaurants/pubs not in people homes. The data regarding community transmission and household transmission has many limitations especially with very poor contact tracing

Exactly, the virus doesn't come in the windows. The reason we have household clusters is because we don't actually isolate cases or contacts properly. 80% of hotel rooms empty and we have never considered a proper isolation plan.

froog

KrustyUCC wrote: »

If you don't give people social outlets to meet people then the only option left to them is meeting in homes

Neither needs to be big numbers

The most I've been out with in a restaurant this year is 4 people

2 couples

If you open pubs, huge amounts will go into them. Keep them closed and no doubt some will have house parties but most will have a bit of sense.

Goldengirl

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Whats the worry meter at today

Low..ish

Goldengirl

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm baffled how some still cannot grasp why houses are more dangerous than pubs/restaurants. The numbers don't lie. Look at the HPSC data.

Depends on the house and the people involved , just some pubs / restaurants are ok and others not .

froog

froog wrote: »

If you open pubs, huge amounts will go into them. Keep them closed and no doubt some will have house parties but most will have a bit of sense.

Not at all. A pub is ultimately just a location where people go to drink and socialize. Close the pub, the need to be social is still there.

Hence you have house parties or people meeting in the streets for take away pints.

People won’t stop socialising, no matter how much others would like them to.

KrustyUCC

Yeah you're just moving the socializing indoors to homes if you close all social outlets to people imo

Widdensushi

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

No. If you have it and go to a friend's house, you might give it to your friends. If you see those friends in a pub or restaurant, you might give it to your friends, the staff, other people in the pub/restaurant. The chances of it spreading is higher and the number of potential people it can spread to is also higher. I thought this was pretty obvious but I guess not.

Minimal in a premises that are observing the restrictions, in your home that goes out the window, probably more at risk in your home.

Zebra3

wadacrack wrote: »

Was referring to the good news about vaccination

Wasn't aimed at you, but the contents of the tweet!

spookwoman

Yesterday alot of the data was not updated. Briefing numbers and county numbers were. Although the county numbers were updated they were not added onto the day before numbers so those were manually added in. Today's numbers don't match up with yesterdays giving minus numbers.
Can check for yourself on gov.ie links.
28th https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/96d0b-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-28-november/
29th https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/96d0b-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-28-november/
30th https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/6c415-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-monday-30-november/

Goldengirl

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yeah you're just moving the socializing indoors to homes if you close all social outlets to people imo

But why are people upset because restaurants and gastropubs ARE open.

GazzaL

One of the biggest load of bollocks with COVID is trying to buy birthday and Christmas presents for people for whom you'd normally get "experiences". Simple things like a voucher for a meal out, the cinema, a show, a concert, a mini-break, are all out the window in this country as the fascists up in Dublin pick and choose what's allowed to operate.

froog

Deleted User wrote: »

Not at all. A pub is ultimately just a location where people go to drink and socialize. Close the pub, the need to be social is still there.

Hence you have house parties or people meeting in the streets for take away pints.

People won’t stop socialising, no matter how much others would like them to.

you honestly think there's been as many people going to house parties the last few weeks than would be going to pubs if they were open? that's ridiculous.

Ohmeha

National deaths and case numbers since the introduction of Level 5 on October 22nd

7 day average down from 1,156 to 269 but considerably short of NPHET's target of <100 cases. It was September 19th we were at these numbers with cases then on an upward trajectory at Level 2 with Dublin going into Level 3

Day Month Date Deaths Weekly 7 Day Av ROI Weekly 5 Day Av 5 Day % 7 Day Av 7 Day % 14 Day Av 14 Day %
Thursday October 22nd 3 33 4.71 1,066 8,092 1,163.20 7.96% 1,156.00 26.85% 1,033.64 135.61%
Friday October 23rd 7 37 5.29 777 7,869 1,062.00 -9.37% 1,124.14 16.37% 1,045.07 127.44%
Saturday October 24th 4 33 4.71 859 7,452 1,027.60 -11.34% 1,064.57 6.06% 1,034.14 101.17%
Sunday October 25th 0 30 4.29 1,025 7,194 978.80 -16.47% 1,027.71 -4.02% 1,049.21 93.76%
Monday October 26th 3 33 4.71 939 7,102 933.20 -22.57% 1,014.57 -7.78% 1,057.36 84.67%
Tuesday October 27th 5 25 3.57 720 6,553 864.00 -25.72% 936.14 -19.68% 1,050.86 73.82%
Wednesday October 28th 6 28 4.00 675 6,061 843.60 -20.56% 865.86 -26.36% 1,020.86 56.54%
Thursday October 29th 6 31 4.43 866 5,861 845.00 -17.77% 837.29 -27.57% 996.64 41.04%
Friday October 30th 6 30 4.29 772 5,856 794.40 -18.84% 836.57 -25.58% 980.36 31.68%
Saturday October 31st 5 31 4.43 416 5,413 689.80 -26.08% 773.29 -27.36% 918.93 16.05%
Sunday November 1st 2 33 4.71 552 4,940 656.20 -24.05% 705.71 -31.33% 866.71 1.07%
Monday November 2nd 2 32 4.57 767 4,768 674.60 -20.03% 681.14 -32.86% 847.86 -5.18%
Tuesday November 3rd 5 32 4.57 322 4,370 565.80 -33.04% 624.29 -33.31% 780.21 -18.21%
Wednesday November 4th 8 34 4.86 444 4,139 500.20 -37.03% 591.29 -31.71% 728.57 -26.68%
Thursday November 5th 3 31 4.43 591 3,864 535.20 -22.41% 552.00 -34.07% 694.64 -32.80%
Friday November 6th 8 33 4.71 499 3,591 524.60 -20.05% 513.00 -38.68% 674.79 -35.43%
Saturday November 7th 5 33 4.71 355 3,530 442.20 -34.45% 504.29 -34.79% 638.79 -38.23%
Sunday November 8th 2 33 4.71 542 3,520 486.20 -14.07% 502.86 -28.74% 604.29 -42.41%
Monday November 9th 1 32 4.57 270 3,023 451.40 -9.76% 431.86 -36.60% 556.50 -47.37%
Tuesday November 10th 16 43 6.14 270 2,971 387.20 -27.65% 424.43 -32.01% 524.36 -50.10%
Wednesday November 11th 2 37 5.29 362 2,889 359.80 -31.41% 412.71 -30.20% 502.00 -50.83%
Thursday November 12th 1 35 5.00 395 2,693 367.80 -16.82% 384.71 -30.31% 468.36 -53.01%
Friday November 13th 7 34 4.86 482 2,676 355.80 -26.82% 382.29 -25.48% 447.64 -54.34%
Saturday November 14th 6 35 5.00 456 2,777 393.00 -12.94% 396.71 -21.33% 450.50 -50.98%
Sunday November 15th 1 34 4.86 378 2,613 414.60 7.08% 373.29 -25.77% 438.07 -49.46%
Monday November 16th 5 38 5.43 456 2,799 433.40 20.46% 399.86 -7.41% 415.86 -50.95%
Tuesday November 17th 11 33 4.71 366 2,895 427.60 16.26% 413.57 -2.56% 419.00 -46.30%
Wednesday November 18th 12 43 6.14 379 2,912 407.00 14.39% 416.00 0.80% 414.36 -43.13%
Thursday November 19th 4 46 6.57 429 2,946 401.60 2.19% 420.86 9.39% 402.79 -42.02%
Friday November 20th 8 47 6.71 330 2,794 392.00 -5.45% 399.14 4.41% 390.71 -42.10%
Saturday November 21st 4 45 6.43 344 2,682 369.60 -14.72% 383.14 -3.42% 389.93 -38.96%
Sunday November 22nd 1 45 6.43 318 2,622 360.00 -15.81% 374.57 0.34% 373.93 -38.12%
Monday November 23rd 0 40 5.71 252 2,418 334.60 -17.79% 345.43 -13.61% 372.64 -33.04%
Tuesday November 24th 6 35 5.00 226 2,278 294.00 -26.79% 325.43 -21.31% 369.50 -29.53%
Wednesday November 25th 6 29 4.14 269 2,168 281.80 -28.11% 309.71 -25.55% 362.86 -27.72%
Thursday November 26th 3 28 4.00 335 2,074 280.00 -24.24% 296.29 -29.60% 358.57 -23.44%
Friday November 27th 7 27 3.86 206 1,950 257.60 -28.44% 278.57 -30.21% 338.86 -24.30%
Saturday November 28th 7 30 4.29 243 1,849 255.80 -23.55% 264.14 -31.06% 323.64 -28.16%
Sunday November 29th 2 31 4.43 299 1,830 270.40 -8.03% 261.43 -30.21% 318.00 -27.41%
Monday November 30th 1 32 4.57 306 1,884 277.80 -1.42% 269.14 -22.08% 307.29 -26.11%

bb1234567

USA will reach 1 million cumulative hospitalisations some time in December. Sounds very large although the highest number of hospitalisations from flu ever recorded was in 2018 when an estimated 810,000 Americans were hospitalised.

froog

bb1234567 wrote: »

USA will reach 1 million cumulative hospitalisations some time in December. Sounds very large although the highest number of hospitalisations from flu ever recorded was in 2018 when an estimated 810,000 Americans were hospitalised.

a lot less deaths though. 61,000 deaths from flu that flu season. 273,000 covid deaths so far this year.

John O.Groats

GazzaL wrote: »

One of the biggest load of bollocks with COVID is trying to buy birthday and Christmas presents for people for whom you'd normally get "experiences". Simple things like a voucher for a meal out, the cinema, a show, a concert, a mini-break, are all out the window in this country as the fascists up in Dublin pick and choose what's allowed to operate.

Fascists? Jesus wept.:rolleyes: Would you ever get a grip on yourself there pal.

Ficheall

GazzaL wrote: »

One of the biggest load of bollocks with COVID is trying to buy birthday and Christmas presents for people for whom you'd normally get "experiences". Simple things like a voucher for a meal out, the cinema, a show, a concert, a mini-break, are all out the window in this country as the fascists up in Dublin pick and choose what's allowed to operate.

Just give them cash :P

GazzaL

John O.Groats wrote: »

Fascists? Jesus wept.:rolleyes: Would you ever get a grip on yourself there pal.

I tell it like it is Johno.

Ficheall

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm baffled how some still cannot grasp why houses are more dangerous than pubs/restaurants. The numbers don't lie. Look at the HPSC data.

Depends on the house and its inhabitants. A cautious house is safer than a cautious pub is safer than an un..cautious.. house.

Widdensushi

Ficheall wrote: »

Depends on the house and its inhabitants. A cautious house is safer than a cautious pub is safer than an un..cautious.. house.

Very easy to catch out the pubs and close them