Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

Ficheall

tigger123 wrote: »

True. But also, read the room.

Sounds like the room wants to be informed, tbh.

blueskys

Deleted User wrote: »

Quelle surprise. The obvious reason behind this cannot be articulated, although some cultures more than others have adapted a laissez faire attitude towards social distancing and wearing of masks on demand.

Let's not forget we had 80 of our finest (and well paid) minds in a hotel room together doing the exact same at the height of the last lockdown.

Renjit

Jaded Walker wrote: »

I can't believe this. Is this the real Department of Health account?
I'm in favour of restrictions and staying safe until the vaccine is available to everyone but the above is scaremongering and it's bad any day but disgraceful on Christmas day.

Yeah, discustarding indeed :pac:

Jim_Hodge

Jaded Walker wrote: »

I can't believe this. Is this the real Department of Health account?
I'm in favour of restrictions and staying safe until the vaccine is available to everyone but the above is scaremongering and it's bad any day but disgraceful on Christmas day.

Give over! What do you want? Some sweet honey coated fairy-tale for Christmas?

Stop reading the threads and listening to the news, if you don't want to know how things are.

mandrake04

Hope everyone is having a nice relaxing Christmas, just got pummeled with a storm but the Yaks are going down a treat.

Jinglejangle69

tom1ie wrote: »

Oh ffs it’s been 70% since before January. Look up dr michael olsterholm for guidance.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo83267141543

We’ve know since before jan we need 70% herd immunity via a vaccine or infection to kill off a respiratory virus.
There’s been books wrote on it!!

What are you talking about??

I'm talking about this claim the new strain is 70% more contagious without any real proof been put forward yet.

xhomelezz

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

What are you talking about??

I'm talking about this claim the new strain is 70% more contagious without any real proof been put forward yet.

Just read posts back, there was no talk about new strain being 70% more contagious. Looks like you didn't bother to read at all. You just saw 70% figure and there we go.. I was answering to poster about threshold for herd immunity..

MadYaker

According to the examiner Martin reckons life will be pretty much back to normal in 6 months. I can live with that.

CIARAN_BOYLE

MadYaker wrote: »

According to the examiner Martin reckons life will be pretty much back to normal in 6 months. I can live with that.

Hopefully he is right. I wonder what he is betting on happening between now and then for that to be the case.

BobbyMalone

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Hopefully he is right. I wonder what he is betting on happening between now and then for that to be the case.

Vaccine rollout?

CIARAN_BOYLE

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Vaccine rollout?

But how many and when?

Pfizer won't have the vulnerable (using the everyone over 65, everyone in with a respiratory or other relevant condition) vaccinated by then.

Is he saying Moderna will be approved on x date, Oxford on y date and that will get us there. Or is betting on more approvals.

If he is betting on Oxford is he betting on hd/fd and if so does he know that the numbers are sufficient for EMA.

jackboy

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

But how many and when?

Pfizer won't have the vulnerable (using the everyone over 65, everyone in with a respiratory or other relevant condition) vaccinated by then.

Is he saying Moderna will be approved on x date, Oxford on y date and that will get us there. Or is betting on more approvals.

If he is betting on Oxford is he betting on hd/fd and if so does he know that the numbers are sufficient for EMA.

I don’t think he put that much thought into what he was saying. Just talking the usual rubbish. Remember he was telling us during the last lockdown what a great Christmas we were going to have

Neamhshuntasach

podgeandrodge wrote: »

How is it that those most afraid to live their lives in any semblance of normality appear to be the people with neighbours having mass gatherings and generally crazy behaviour? Very unfortunate for them.

It's all pure Walter Mitty stuff. I rarely post here but scan over now and then. And it's always the same posters. Full of stories of things they have seen happen from their window. I look out my window now and I could tell you fùck all about what is going on in anyone else's life.

BobbyMalone

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

But how many and when?

I don't know - and I doubt he knows either (unless they've released when the groups will be vaccinated) - but you asked the grounds for his optimism, and I would imagine that it's simply: vaccine rollout.

caveat emptor

Good news....

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1342795184644513792?s=20

petes

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

It's all pure Walter Mitty stuff. I rarely post here but scan over now and then. And it's always the same posters. Full of stories of things they have seen happen from their window. I look out my window now and I could tell you fùck all about what is going on in anyone else's life.

Aren't you the poster who posted about a works do and knew the ins and outs of test results including the three blokes taking coke that tested negative, all anecdotally of course.

stephenjmcd

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

But how many and when?

Pfizer won't have the vulnerable (using the everyone over 65, everyone in with a respiratory or other relevant condition) vaccinated by then.

Is he saying Moderna will be approved on x date, Oxford on y date and that will get us there. Or is betting on more approvals.

If he is betting on Oxford is he betting on hd/fd and if so does he know that the numbers are sufficient for EMA.

Moderna he said first week of January and Oxford also in January. Thats 3 times in the last week he's said Oxford in January so at EU level they most certainly have been told something.

Its nothing new to what he's said in the last few weeks, January, Feb, March low volumes coming into the country, healtcare, nursing homes, the elderly and work down the list with more widespread vacination and higher numbers coming into the country March, April, May, June.

What he said in the interview was getting the nursing homes and hospitals done in early 2021 gives them greater flexibility on restrictions and that his hope was by Summer we'd be back open fully.

He did say that was a conservative estimate and that based on manufacturing the timeline could be excelerated.

niallo27

jackboy wrote: »

I don’t think he put that much thought into what he was saying. Just talking the usual rubbish. Remember he was telling us during the last lockdown what a great Christmas we were going to have

I did have a great Christmas though. Did you not?

Ficheall

caveat emptor wrote: »

Good news....

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1342795184644513792?s=20

I've seen too many forklift disaster videos - was just waiting for the box to smash onto the floor.. Put the fecking heart across me :pac:

SpacialNeeds

That's underwhelming.

I was feeling optimistic yesterday because I felt like there was some sort of end to this on the horizon. Then mehole said about mass vaccinations in 5/6 months (pushed out by 3/4 months from the original target like expected) and it's apparent now that he's said it, they won't be doing that by then. Who knows whether we'll even be able to meet family by next Christmas.

Realistically there are going to be more viruses coming from the usual exotic places; wet markets, ice caps, tropical rainforest we level, jungle habitats redeveloped.. from now on it's nature and more familiar enemies trying to shake us off. Who cares if me and my family don't get covid because we'll probably get H3N9 or some specially adapted form of necrotising fasciitis.

We (Ireland and most of the west) are not going to be able to fight them, any more than we fought this one. We can't manage that type of crisis because the system is slow and the bureaucracy is cold. Also, the fact that somebody always has to gain financially from the crisis means the average person is going to be screwed so politicians can increase the wealth divide.

Get ready for extinction... At least I hope the next decade holds human extinction and not just the Chinese taking over, because they absolutely suck as regards nuclear waste disposal, exploitation of animals and even people. Of course, all this makes perfect sense because we were just trying to figure out what billions of people whose jobs were being replaced by automation would do in future. Huh, they'd die in a plague.

Ugh, depression kicks like a mule.

Dempo1

caveat emptor wrote: »

Good news....

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1342795184644513792?s=20

Clown that Paul Reid, nothing he does or says can be taken seriously, spoofer, past the buck merchant.

The Vaccine arrival is worth celebrating but I'm not at all convinced on the time frame for roll out or if we can catch up with this horrible pandemic.

iamwhoiam

caveat emptor wrote: »

Good news....

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1342795184644513792?s=20

Thank you , good news and good to see the downward slope

Jaded Walker

Faugheen wrote: »

Ah would you stop. It’s not ‘disgraceful’ to put out the message on Christmas Day. Do whatever you want with it.

There is still a highly contagious virus in the community at the end of the day.

If you don’t want to read up about it then don’t go looking for it. It really is very easy to do that.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Give over! What do you want? Some sweet honey coated fairy-tale for Christmas?

Stop reading the threads and listening to the news, if you don't want to know how things are.

What are these posts about? I said I'm fully in favour of restrictions. I've no issue with information personally, I process it and move on.

My point is that saying we are the fastest growing in Europe might be true but it's not genuine, as in we are starting from a very low point in comparison to most of Europe.

The information is posted in a fashion to scare people. That's not right anytime imo, and particularly on Christmas day.

I'd have no issue with a message saying that things are getting serious and we all need to keep to ourselves as much as possible.

That message would be honest and proper. Calling us the fastest growing in Europe is just frightening people on Christmas day. That's not right.

I'm not upset about it on a personal level but I can see how it might upset a lot of people and I'm against that.

MadYaker

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

But how many and when?

Pfizer won't have the vulnerable (using the everyone over 65, everyone in with a respiratory or other relevant condition) vaccinated by then.

Is he saying Moderna will be approved on x date, Oxford on y date and that will get us there. Or is betting on more approvals.

If he is betting on Oxford is he betting on hd/fd and if so does he know that the numbers are sufficient for EMA.

I’d imagine he has access to a lot more information than we do

Dempo1

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Thank you , good news and good to see the downward slope

Downward slope? Did you see yesterday's figures?

jackboy

niallo27 wrote: »

I did have a great Christmas though. Did you not?

Absolutely. A lot of workers in the hospitality sector not so much. Out of work again on Christmas Eve.

Ficheall

Jaded Walker wrote: »

true but it's not genuine

Hmm..

stephenjmcd

SpacialNeeds wrote: »

That's underwhelming.

I was feeling optimistic yesterday because I felt like there was some sort of end to this on the horizon. Then mehole said about mass vaccinations in 5/6 months (pushed out by 3/4 months from the original target like expected) and it's apparent now that he's said it, they won't be doing that by then. Who knows whether we'll even be able to meet family by next Christmas..

Eh the months that he's given were always the target for general population. He's been saying the same thing for the last 3 weeks so not sure where its being pushed out by 3 or 4 months

Wombatman

caveat emptor wrote: »

Good news....

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1342795184644513792?s=20

Pretty sorry photo opportunity really. I was expecting a couple of big trucks or something. Along come two small boxes I could have carried in myself without a forklift. The guy directing it is a cameraman, not some warehouse type dude. He is 'directing' a story for mass consumption. THE VACCINE IS HERE.

It goes right along with my expectations that the rollout is going to be dominated by spin and ineptitude.

Is it OK to be cynical on St. Stephen's Day?

ExMachina1000

Wombatman wrote: »

Pretty sorry photo opportunity really. I was expecting a couple of big trucks or something. Along come two small boxes I could have carried in myself without a forklift. The guy directing it is a cameraman, not some warehouse type dude. He is 'directing' a story for mass consumption. THE VACCINE IS HERE.

It goes right along with my expectations that the rollout is going to be dominated by spin and ineptitude.

Is it OK to be cynical on St. Stephen's Day?

The specialist refrigeration requirements to store the vaccine at -70 must be inside the cardboard boxes