Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2020/2021

AdamD

jonneymendoza wrote: »

lets be fank, xhaka doesnt react like that all the time. his played 100 of game of arsenal and how many times his reacted like that?

even world class players makes mistakes and react poorly etc.

His not the only problem anyway , the whole squad is.

Mentally weak. Why cant the board sack off all the players and start from scratch and let arteta get the players he wants and feels will match his ambitons and style?

The idea that this is all a players issue and Arteta is great is mental. Week in week out he picks baffling teams and he has managed to make this lot significantly worse.

wonga77

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Why cant the board sack off all the players and start from scratch and let arteta get the players he wants and feels will match his ambitons and style?

This isn't a computer game

Ol' Donie

wonga77 wrote: »

the worst part about this is that Southampton are up next and there are a far better team than Burnley

I would argue the worst part is the disintegration of our club.

spaceCreated

omega man wrote: »

Arteta basically put the cones of for pep and charity FC handed him the big job ffs. Sorry that’s harsh but true.
People would have laughed Eddie Howe out the gate if we’d appointed him and probably rightly so but yet he’s a proven premier league manager.
What have we done....

Like theres basics such as pass and move you kind of expect to see in every team. Even that is completely lacking, its pass to the wings or backwards and stay static.

Quazzie

For all the lads saying that Arteta picks the wrong team, can ye state how he could have changed the team today to give us a better result?

jonneymendoza

omega man wrote: »

Arteta basically put the cones of for pep and charity FC handed him the big job ffs. Sorry that’s harsh but true.
People would have laughed Eddie Howe out the gate if we’d appointed him and probably rightly so but yet he’s a proven premier league manager.
What have we done....

And whats your excuse for Emery then? a triple trophy at PSG and won loads for valencia in europa.

patrickc

And to think before the league started I threw a tenner on arsenal to win 😂😂

jonneymendoza

Quazzie wrote: »

For all the lads saying that Arteta picks the wrong team, can ye state how he could have changed the team today to give us a better result?

of course not. the people here slating arteta cant answer you that.

jonneymendoza

jonneymendoza wrote: »

lets be fank, xhaka doesnt react like that all the time. his played 100 of game of arsenal and how many times his reacted like that?

even world class players makes mistakes and react poorly etc.

His not the only problem anyway , the whole squad is.

Mentally weak. Why cant the board sack off all the players and start from scratch and let arteta get the players he wants and feels will match his ambitons and style?

It would cost half the price of a new stadium to sack most of them.

Bobby Baccala

Quazzie wrote: »

For all the lads saying that Arteta picks the wrong team, can ye state how he could have changed the team today to give us a better result?

Not having Willian in it would be a start. Never seen an attacker bring less to the table.

spaceCreated

Quazzie wrote: »

For all the lads saying that Arteta picks the wrong team, can ye state how he could have changed the team today to give us a better result?

Genuinely? I would've played Smith Rowe instead of Lacazette hes been nothing but great in cup matches and europa league. Niles instead of Bellerin. Ceballos instead of Xhaka. Added to all those changes I'd beat them with a stick until their response to having the ball is pass forward, and move centrally.

jonneymendoza

Deleted User wrote: »

It would cost half the price of a new stadium to sack most of them.

worth the investment

jonneymendoza

jonneymendoza wrote: »

lets be fank, xhaka doesnt react like that all the time. his played 100 of game of arsenal and how many times his reacted like that?

even world class players makes mistakes and react poorly etc.

His not the only problem anyway , the whole squad is.

Mentally weak. Why cant the board sack off all the players and start from scratch and let arteta get the players he wants and feels will match his ambitons and style?

Arteta's job is to get the most out of the players he has. I'm struggling to think of one player that is playing remotely close to their potential. Maybe Gabriel and Tierney.

Quazzie

Bobby Baccala wrote: »

Not having Willian in it would be a start. Never seen an attacker bring less to the table.

So your idea is to start with ten men???

5star02707

Rio with the bants

https://twitter.com/rioferdy5/status/1338225570019205121?s=08

jonneymendoza

Basil3 wrote: »

Arteta's job is to get the most out of the players he has. I'm struggling to think of one player that is playing remotely close to their potential. Maybe Gabriel and Tierney.

And agaiin Emery?


Why did he fail then? a HIGHLY experienced manager?

wonga77

Quazzie wrote: »

For all the lads saying that Arteta picks the wrong team, can ye state how he could have changed the team today to give us a better result?

Surely doing the same thing week in week out in the league and it not working means you have to change something.
For a start Willian, Lacca and Bellerin have been awful and still get picked, Arteta has no plan B whatsoever and Plan A hasn't been working for ages

FixitFelix

Quazzie wrote: »

For all the lads saying that Arteta picks the wrong team, can ye state how he could have changed the team today to give us a better result?

Cedric for Bellerin hes so much better technically
Ceballos for Xhaka he's the only one with a bit of creativity, could have even swapped willian for AMN

tayto lover

A lot of people thought Burnley were the perfect team to be playing at home when trying to get back on the winning trail, me included.
This shows that there are no easy marks in the EPL. You have approach every game in the right frame of mind and with the right plan and team.
Arteta didn’t do that and I don’t think he’s up to it.

Soups123

Quazzie wrote: »

For all the lads saying that Arteta picks the wrong team, can ye state how he could have changed the team today to give us a better result?

Cedric for Bellerin
Cebellos for Elneny/Xhaka playing too negative midfielders are home to Burnley is shocking
Willock over Willian

Try change the energy and dimensions of the team,

Maybe even start AMM reward him for his early season form and EL, positive energy in a team dead of it

DarraghF197

Quazzie wrote: »

So your idea is to start with ten men???

How can you justify Willian? I'd be more inclined he's undercover working for Chelsea than I would be inclined to start him

Deeper Blue

Arteta now favourite on Betfair to be the next PL manager to leave

Quazzie

spaceCreated wrote: »

Genuinely? I would've played Smith Rowe instead of Lacazette hes been nothing but great in cup matches and europa league. Niles instead of Bellerin. Ceballos instead of Xhaka. Added to all those changes I'd beat them with a stick until their response to having the ball is pass forward, and move centrally.

ESR and the likes look great when the opponent is Dundalk. You're not comparing like with like there at all. As poor as Burnley are, their U23s would comfortably beat Dundalk

omega man

jonneymendoza wrote: »

And whats your excuse for Emery then? a triple trophy at PSG and won loads for valencia in europa.

I don’t have an excuse for Emery but Arteta wasn’t the answer that’s clear as day.

jonneymendoza

Soups123 wrote: »

Cedric for Bellerin
Cebellos for Elneny/Xhaka playing too negative midfielders are home to Burnley is shocking
Willock over Willian

Try change the energy and dimensions of the team,

Maybe even start AMM reward him for his early season form and EL, positive energy in a team dead of it

Cebellos and willock have played in the league and done sweet FA mate.

Cedric just came from injury no?

Bobby Baccala

Quazzie wrote: »

So your idea is to start with ten men???

GoOd OnE QuAZziE

Soups123

Quazzie wrote: »

ESR and the likes look great when the opponent is Dundalk. You're not comparing like with like there at all. As poor as Burnley are, their U23s would comfortably beat Dundalk

But this lot would struggle with a Dundalk right now, I genuinely believe that

jonneymendoza

omega man wrote: »

I don’t have an excuse for Emery but Arteta wasn’t the answer that’s clear as day.

More like changing managers is not the answer ...

spaceCreated

Quazzie wrote: »

ESR and the likes look great when the opponent is Dundalk. You're not comparing like with like there at all. As poor as Burnley are, their U23s would comfortably beat Dundalk

I think he deserves a shot, he can only play what hes against and has done well in the Bundesliga as well. Think hes looked better than a lot of the first team tbh. I also think the rest of the approach would help. Getting it to the wing and putting in the crosses while ignoring an entire third of the pitch (the middle) isn;t a good approach. Think we missed that forward passing and movement centrally when we lost Ramsey.

FixitFelix

Quazzie wrote: »

ESR and the likes look great when the opponent is Dundalk. You're not comparing like with like there at all. As poor as Burnley are, their U23s would comfortably beat Dundalk

Could they do any worse than what our there?

omega man

jonneymendoza wrote: »

More like changing managers is not the answer ...

Let’s wait and see at what point you change your mind and you will sooner or later.

jonneymendoza

jonneymendoza wrote: »

And agaiin Emery?


Why did he fail then? a HIGHLY experienced manager?

Correct. He also failed to get the most out of the players. Whether it was his poor communication, crap tactics, or bizarre team selections, I don't know.

Possibly a combination of the 3.

Soups123

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Cebellos and willock have played in the league and done sweet FA mate.

Cedric just came from injury no?

Willock has had next no PL time this season

Cebellos has been given no run of games he showed last season what he can do when backed

Cedric isn’t injured just not selected in the league

spaceCreated

El Sueño wrote: »

Arteta now favourite on Betfair to be the next PL manager to leave

I can't see it happening after how long it took them to get rid of Emery and Arteta is much more central to their setup than Emery ever was.

jonneymendoza

omega man wrote: »

Let’s wait and see at what point you change your mind and you will sooner or later.

i wont, ever, until i see a starting 11 that consists of players arteta has bought/recruited

5star02707

Guys and gals I advice to check your fellow Arsenal friends. Arsenal will be the death of us all..

https://twitter.com/SemperFiArsenal/status/1338228168679821312?s=19

Azatadine

spaceCreated wrote: »

I can't see it happening after how long it took them to get rid of Emery and Arteta is much more central to their setup than Emery ever was.

We are worse than under Emery. We are worse.

Alfred Borden

Alfred Borden wrote: »

In 31 league games under Arteta, Arsenal have 11 defeats and only 13 wins.

12 defeats and 13 wins in 32 league games. Times up.

jonneymendoza

Soups123 wrote: »

Willock has had next no PL time this season

Cebellos has been given no run of games he showed last season what he can do when backed

Cedric isn’t injured just not selected in the league

I am pretty sure Willock has. he played against Leeds. Started even and did NOTHING.

Cebellos has played a few times this season and again, nothing.

Quazzie

Bellerin is suspended for the next game as is Xhaka. So I'm really looking forward to what these magnificent replacements are going to do against Southampton on Wednesday. According to some here, suspensions light actually lead to Arteta naming a better team.

Jmac24128

I'm majorly disappointed with his team selection tonight and playing xhaka is his fault. He would be gone from the club now if it wasn't for decision makers at the club.

I love Arteta and believe he will be a great manager but my god this group of players would drive a nun to the whore house. The are not good enough

I don't even know what the answer is and it's killing me.

Deeper Blue

The Arteta experiment has failed.

I can't really understand it but something has gone wrong somewhere.

He's got to go now in my opinion.

omega man

jonneymendoza wrote: »

i wont, ever, until i see a starting 11 that consists of players arteta has bought/recruited

We’re 5 points above relegation. It’s not all about the players. They’re good enough for top 7 minimum. Arteta isn’t even pep light.

Soups123

jonneymendoza wrote: »

i wont, ever, until i see a starting 11 that consists of players arteta has bought/recruited

Buy championship manager if you want to see that. Your supporting the wrong club if you think that will ever happen.

Arteta isn’t struggling to break top 4 here he’s at relegation he’s under performing to a ridiculous level for the player at his disposal

tayto lover

A lot of the crowd left early.
Others stayed to boo.

Arteta’s tenure is very shaky now.

jonneymendoza

Quazzie wrote: »

Bellerin is suspended for the next game as is Xhaka. So I'm really looking forward to what these magnificent replacements are going to do against Southampton on Wednesday. According to some here, suspensions light actually lead to Arteta naming a better team.

yea Willock and callabos our saviors.....

jonneymendoza

Honestly he shoud drop the first team on wed, play the europa team.

spaceCreated

Azatadine wrote: »

We are worse than under Emery. We are worse.

I know, but are the owners prepared to act or anyone in the club. A lot of the higher ups probably bet on Arteta in a big way as manager and would have to backtrack.

omega man

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Honestly he shoud drop the first team on wed, play the europa team.

Too late. He should have dropped some of them ages ago and maybe he’d have got a reaction.

Soups123

Quazzie wrote: »

Bellerin is suspended for the next game as is Xhaka. So I'm really looking forward to what these magnificent replacements are going to do against Southampton on Wednesday. According to some here, suspensions light actually lead to Arteta naming a better team.

Might be what keeps him in a job his hand is forced now.