Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2020/2021

Ol' Donie

We cross it, their big defenders head it up in the air, one of them wins second ball. Over and over.

Possesion means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

tayto lover

5star02707 wrote: »

We dominated this 2nd half but no goals. 72% possession and 2 shots on target afff

Spurs playing Jose’s way.
You can have the ball but you won’t score against us.

Jmac24128

All in all disappointing how naive our players are.
Gutting spurs got the lucky worldie to start it off.
Then how brain dead the players were for the second is embarrassing.
Never gonna get back into a game 2-0 to a mourhino side.

Next two games are very winable at least

tayto lover

El Sueño wrote: »

I think Saka is more than good enough in fairness

He’s very average.
What has he created today or any other day?

Alfred Borden

In 31 league games under Arteta, Arsenal have 11 defeats and only 13 wins.

Azatadine

Jmac24128 wrote: »

All in all disappointing how naive our players are.
Gutting spurs got the lucky worldie to start it off.
Then how brain dead the players were for the second is embarrassing.
Never gonna get back into a game 2-0 to a mourhino side.

Next two games are very winable at least

Baloney. I have zero confidence that Arteta can manage to get the team cohesive enough to beat Burnley or Southampton. We won't score. We will concede

greendom

Really like what I'm seeing from Gabriel.

It was that Partey moment that killed us. Perhaps he shouldn't have started

wonga77

15th place. Im not so sure where the goals will come from to move us up a bit. Its awful stuff

mossie

greendom wrote: »

Really like what I'm seeing from Gabriel.

It was that Partey moment that killed us. Perhaps he shouldn't have started

Clearly can't have been fit. Still should have stayed on until the ball went dead though.

abff

tayto lover wrote: »

Spurs playing Jose’s way.
You can have the ball but you won’t score against us.

That pretty much sums it up. In fairness lads, I think your team is a lot better than your recent results suggest.

At this stage, it may be a struggle to get back into the top four, but you are definitely a top six team and, for my money, should finish ahead of United.

Ol' Donie

5star02707 wrote: »

We dominated this 2nd half but no goals. 72% possession and 2 shots on target afff

We dominated nothing. That word implies we were in control. They didn't want the ball, they wouldn't give a damn if the ball was in the stand for 72% of the game.

Is that 5 losses in 7 league games now?

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

He’s very average.
What has he created today or any other day?

Like many of our players he's living off a previous purple patch.

Saka, like Auba, has been average since signing a new contract.

Gizmo55

Something is very wrong, we're 15th after 11 games. No way should an Arsenal manager get away with that. I don't believe Arteta's good enough, but I really wanted him to be. There's clearly a big difference between being a great no.2 to being a great no.1.

wonga77

Ol' Donie wrote: »

We dominated nothing. That word implies we were in control. They didn't want the ball, they wouldn't give a damn if the ball was in the stand for 72% of the game.

Is that 5 losses in 7 league games now?

Spurs let us have the ball cause they knew we were incapable of doing anything with it. They knew they had it won at half time

Jmac24128

I will say this before I log off cause I'm not gonna listen to the Arteta out people.

Players fault again to today.

Arteta is still the man for the job, it's a slow process but it's a process.

Next two games are winable and will get us moving nicely.

Don't care if we finish 15th and manage to win the Europa League. Will take that season now if u gave it to me.

Got to have a massive culling of players in the next two windows. 10 to 15 players gone. Please

Alfred Borden

Ol' Donie wrote: »

We dominated nothing. That word implies we were in control. They didn't want the ball, they wouldn't give a damn if the ball was in the stand for 72% of the game.

Is that 5 losses in 7 league games now?

2 wins in 9. Cant remember it this bad.

tayto lover

wonga77 wrote: »

15th place. Im not so sure where the goals will come from to move us up a bit. Its awful stuff

On form and performance that’s about where we deserve to be, 15th.
Some of those team down there with us will out-battle us too.
In my 50 years following Arsenal this is the worst team I have watched.
You don’t drop this low by accident either. It’s not a fluke.

Jmac24128

Azatadine wrote: »

Baloney. I have zero confidence that Arteta can manage to get the team cohesive enough to beat Burnley or Southampton. We won't score. We will concede

I will bet u any money we will win both these games.

wonga77

Jmac24128 wrote: »

I will say this before I log off cause I'm not gonna listen to the Arteta out people.

Players fault again to today.

Arteta is still the man for the job, it's a slow process but it's a process.

Next two games are winable and will get us moving nicely.

Don't care if we finish 15th and manage to win the Europa League. Will take that season now if u gave it to me.

Got to have a massive culling of players in the next two windows. 10 to 15 players gone. Please

I can only assume you're trolling, unless we're playing Molde or Dundalk the next 2 games arent winnable. We are going backwards at an alarming rate, creating nothing and when we do the strikers are in an awful run of form. I want Arteta to achieve as much as anyone but he has to shoulder some responsibility here.
And 10 to 15 players gone in the next 2 windows? This isn't a computer game

Ardennes1944

Regardless of what any of us thought when Arteta was hired, i did not think we would be having the Arteta Out chat a mere 12 months on.

Jmac24128

wonga77 wrote: »

I can only assume you're trolling, unless we're playing Molde or Dundalk the next 2 games arent winnable. We are going backwards at an alarming rate, creating nothing and when we do the strikers are in an awful run of form. I want Arteta to achieve as much as anyone but he has to shoulder some responsibility here.
And 10 to 15 players gone in the next 2 windows? This isn't a computer game

A worldie and brain dead defending isn't the managers fault today I'm afraid.

Players let us down like they leave the managers down, like how they leave themselves down like how they are an embarrassment.

While I don't want Arteta out, there are two big things that concern me.

1. He is not getting the most out of the players we have. This should be a manager's job. In fact, players' individual performances are dropping.

2. We don't have a clear style of play, unless playing like absolute ****e is a style. Good football should be good to watch, period. There are no top teams in any sport that are horrible to watch.

wonga77

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Regardless of what any of us thought when Arteta was hired, i did not think we would be having the Arteta Out chat a mere 12 months on.

Everything was quite rosy, we looked a bit better defensively, the fa cup, it was mostly positive. Since Ozil has been blacklisted things have gone very pearshaped. Is it possible that Ozil still has the players backing? He seems to be very popular, clearly they arent trying too hard for Arteta anymore anyway, Auba's form since signing the contract has been so bad that its hard to understand

Jmac24128

Gizmo55 wrote: »

Something is very wrong, we're 15th after 11 games. No way should an Arsenal manager get away with that. I don't believe Arteta's good enough, but I really wanted him to be. There's clearly a big difference between being a great no.2 to being a great no.1.

Players aren't good enough.

Azatadine

Jmac24128 wrote: »

Players aren't good enough.

They were doing alright though until something changed.

omega man

We either let him go now and give the rest of the season for a new manager to settle in or we let this drag on to the inevitable in the summer or early next season.
Arteta is out of his depth or if not then the players aren’t playing for him for some reason. Either way he goes sooner or later in my opinion.

Ol' Donie

Jmac24128 wrote: »

I will say this before I log off cause I'm not gonna listen to the Arteta out people.

Players fault again to today.

Arteta is still the man for the job, it's a slow process but it's a process.

Next two games are winable and will get us moving nicely.

Don't care if we finish 15th and manage to win the Europa League. Will take that season now if u gave it to me.

Got to have a massive culling of players in the next two windows. 10 to 15 players gone. Please

Why on earth do you think we would win the Europa League? For starters the team we couldn't lay a glove on today is in it.

wonga77

Jmac24128 wrote: »

Players aren't good enough.

While I agree that they all aren't good enough there's something clearly not working. They didn't all turn into donkeys overnight.
Arteta hasn't stamped any style of play whatsoever on the team, we're not good in defence, not a possession team, not good to watch going forward.
In 11 matches we've been ahead at the break just once, only the bottom 3 have scored less than us.
Burnley and Southampton at home in the next 2 and I wouldn't be confident of winning either, especially Southampton, they have picked up some decent results and seem to have no bother hitting the net

spaceCreated

Play it wide, cross in to box, defenders clear and get hit on counterattack. Don't press the opposition, never play through the middle. In what world is that going to work?

We dont have the players to play like he seems to be trying to, and even if we did it would have to be some group of players to get top 4 nevermind anything else.

Bobby Baccala

Part of me is saying Arteta needs another couple of transfer windows to get us where we need but we’ve somehow managed to get worse under him which is pretty worrying. Really don’t wanna see us turn into a hiring and firing managerial circus either though.

Jmac24128

Azatadine wrote: »

They were doing alright though until something changed.

What do u class as doing alright?

Bobby Baccala

Jmac24128 wrote: »

What do u class as doing alright?

Well they won the cup for one, got some great results and the team actually seemed to be playing for the coach and following some sort of philosophy. Either they’ve been found out or something has happened at club level because that’s not the team we saw last season.

Jmac24128

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Why on earth do you think we would win the Europa League? For starters the team we couldn't lay a glove on today is in it.

Faith in the manager to get us going.
Maybe a Bruno type player in January could make a massive difference

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Pfft I'm not having any of this Arteta out stuff. State of those players... He needs the January transfer window and I'd judge on him on who he shifts OUT rather than in because there's something rotten there.

Not pointing fingers...

Jmac24128

omega man wrote: »

We either let him go now and give the rest of the season for a new manager to settle in or we let this drag on to the inevitable in the summer or early next season.
Arteta is out of his depth or if not then the players aren’t playing for him for some reason. Either way he goes sooner or later in my opinion.

Disagree on every level with u

Azatadine

Jmac24128 wrote: »

Faith in the manager to get us going.
Maybe a Bruno type player in January could make a massive difference

You're entitled to your opinion of course but you seem to demonstrate blind faith that's not supported by the facts.

Jmac24128

wonga77 wrote: »

While I agree that they all aren't good enough there's something clearly not working. They didn't all turn into donkeys overnight.
Arteta hasn't stamped any style of play whatsoever on the team, we're not good in defence, not a possession team, not good to watch going forward.
In 11 matches we've been ahead at the break just once, only the bottom 3 have scored less than us.
Burnley and Southampton at home in the next 2 and I wouldn't be confident of winning either, especially Southampton, they have picked up some decent results and seem to have no bother hitting the net

Ya they have been donkeys for 5 years

Azatadine

Poor from Arteta too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pbsportswriter/status/1335661004714356740

wonga77

Jmac24128 wrote: »

Ya they have been donkeys for 5 years

Ok cool, I'm done biting

Jmac24128

Azatadine wrote: »

You're entitled to your opinion of course but you seem to demonstrate blind faith that's not supported by the facts.

Not blind faith..I know these players are ****. That is obvious. He has only had a year that has had a pandemic in the middle of it.

Next manager would get nothing out of these players either.
Look what they did for Emery

The players are the poison
Arteta is the cure in my opinion

jonneymendoza

omega man wrote: »

Couldn’t disagree but that’s quite a list.
Shows the mismanagement over the last number of years.

and many if all of those were nto arteta signings

wonga77

Azatadine wrote: »

Poor from Arteta too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pbsportswriter/status/1335661004714356740

I really hope that he didn't say it like that and they put a spin on it cause that doesn't inspire confidence

jonneymendoza

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Regardless of what any of us thought when Arteta was hired, i did not think we would be having the Arteta Out chat a mere 12 months on.

And to be honest, it all went downhill after the manchester united vitory.

prior to that we was very solid as a team with clear structure and hard to beat

Jmac24128

Jmac24128 wrote: »

Not blind faith..I know these players are ****. That is obvious. He has only had a year that has had a pandemic in the middle of it.

Next manager would get nothing out of these players either.
Look what they did for Emery

The players are the poison
Arteta is the cure in my opinion

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

We are not going to have a complete clearout of players anytime soon. We have seen that many of these players we have right now CAN play very well, the question is why aren't they? That's his job.

Ol' Donie

OmegaGene wrote: »

I think we’d struggle to win a coin toss never mind the Europa, the teams from the champions league are coming in soon too

We have a much, much better chance of winning a coin toss right now.

omega man

Jmac24128 wrote: »

Disagree on every level with u

You’re clearly watching a different Arsenal to me.
It’s a mess on the pitch and on the side line, never mind the boardroom.
What positives are you seeing?

Jmac24128

omega man wrote: »

You’re clearly watching a different Arsenal to me.
It’s a mess on the pitch and on the side line, never mind the boardroom.
What positives are you seeing?

We are in a bad place confidence wish now. Changing manager again with these same players won't make a difference.

2 good home games now next, if the both go bad I then will start to become concerned. Losing to spurs away isn't that strange. They are a good team this year.

wonga77

Is it possible that Ozil can be drafted in or is he gone for the year? Not saying he's the answer, just curious

Gizmo55

I think a lot of us were taken in by how well Arteta talks, he really sounds like he knows what he’s at. After a year though it seems there’s not much to back it up. The FA Cup win was great of course but we’ve been sh1te in the league.

https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1335667891610546176

So true that we're lacking in so many fundamental areas.

I don't understand how the team is clueless about how to counter-attack, or how to do a set piece. Surely they practice these things?