Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2020/2021

Bobby Baccala

Looking pretty clueless out there so far

Gizmo55

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Fairly sure whoever is 2nd place in the league now would be smacked by City too.

I've no doubt, I'm just saying we're 10th, which is bullsh1t.

jonneymendoza

wonski wrote: »

Our last win against City was in 2015, so I wouldn't make any decision based on the result of that one.

Still 70 minutes to go anyway.

*league win

jonneymendoza

Gizmo55 wrote: »

I've no doubt, I'm just saying we're 10th, which is bullsh1t.

Where 10th because we've been **** from Sept to Dec basically.

Had we played how we playing of recent, we'd be higher up the table

wonga77

City absolutely dominating the ball, we can't seem to get near them when they attack.
Lazy attempt from Pepe there to get back onside, that kind of rubbish doesnt fcuking help

Underground

Saka looks jaded, 29 mins in. He should have been given a rest either today or last Thursday night.

Actually a lot of the players look fatigued. I still don't understand the decision not to rotate on Thursday, our schedule is crazy and it looks like it was a bad call.

TimeToShine

There are some great counter-attacking opportunities if we could just keep our composure when we get the ball. Could do with Ceballos on to help us hold on to the ball a little bit better.

wonski

wonga77 wrote: »

City absolutely dominating the ball, we can't seem to get near them when they attack.
Lazy attempt from Pepe there to get back onside, that kind of rubbish doesnt fcuking help

It's not his fault that Saka passed the ball there despite both Pepe and Auba being already miles offside, unless you are on about something else that happened later.

Nice try from Tierney. At least it was a shot.

**** off Xhaka.

Underground

Rob Holding is more adventurous on the ball than Elneny.

Azatadine

Underground wrote: »

Rob Holding is more adventurous on the ball than Elneny.

Elneny starting any game is indicative of where we are as a club now.

wonski

I don't think I heard Odegaard name being mentioned in the game either...

Jmac24128

0-1 Down at half time against probably the best team in Europe and the amount of bitching is crazy.

Anyone that thinks u can judge our progress or lack of it against city is sadly mistaken.

wonski

I actually see a chance for Arsenal there.

Maybe I am to optimistic, but I see it.

greendom

At least we're playing a fair bit in their half now. Next step to create a few more decent chances and convert 1 or 2.

wonski

wonski wrote: »

I actually see a chance for Arsenal there.

Maybe I am to optimistic, but I see it.

City have been very lackadaisical. I'd be surprised if Pep hasn't noticed.

Ol' Donie

Jmac24128 wrote: »

0-1 Down at half time against probably the best team in Europe and the amount of bitching is crazy.

Anyone that thinks u can judge our progress or lack of it against city is sadly mistaken.

We're very much still in this. City are on a good run, easily the least interesting winning run ever, but I mean Spurs beat them. And they're not exactly good.

Bobby Baccala

wonski wrote: »

I don't think I heard Odegaard name being mentioned in the game either...

A performance reminiscent of the mighty Denis Suarez.

Elneny is pretty useless out there today

spaceCreated

Holding got caught flat footed otherwise the defensive side of things has looked good, Xhaka getting off some really nice passes today hopefully they keep leaving him have space. Elneny and Aubemeyang have been very poor and probably need to be subbed off.

Tierney looks like hes running on fumes but still making an impact.

Jmac24128

OmegaGene wrote: »

Are we supposed to come here and praise the team and say how well they are playing when they didn’t even turn up for the first half an hour ?

It’s a discussion forum and when a team is losing the talking is bound to be negative lol

Anyone think Lacazette could make a difference here ?

Discussion and half time bitching and complete cutting of a team and manager that are down one goal are different things to me..at least the end of your comment is a discussion point.

Soups123

Poor start for sure, took us a while to get going but we are definitely in it now. We’re playing a top team and it shows but we are doing ok. If we can build on last 15 we are in with a shout.

Elneny needs to come off, contributing nothing and when it arrives at his feet he just brings us right back.

wonga77

There are chances for us, though i get the feeling Pep wont be happy at HT. They are arsing about in front of goal a bit too much.
Hopefully we take one of our chances but I feel like City are capable of scoring at every attack.
Elneny not really contributing a whole pile

Ol' Donie

3 times already this half we've tried to pass it out from the back only to end up just booting it back to them.

Soups123

Right there is why Elneny has to come off, killing us

DenMan

5th yellow for Xhaka there, that's a one game ban now.

Quazzie

DenMan wrote: »

5th yellow for Xhaka there, that's a one game ban now.

I think I read somewhere that only applies up to matchweek 19.

al87987

We're so stand-offish, can't be letting the likes of KDB pick passes.

Diaz just walked to the edge of our box with the ball and nobody went near him.

wonga77

Not sure who to bring in but id take Elneny off and at this stage id nearly pull Saka too to give him a breather.
im switching off though if I see Willian warming up.
City more tuned in this half

Soups123

wonga77 wrote: »

Not sure who to bring in but id take Elneny off and at this stage id nearly pull Saka too to give him a breather.
im switching off though if I see Willian warming up.
City more tuned in this half

Tierney looks tired too, Pepe not in it, Auba not in it so Arteta has plenty of candidates!!

wonski

Quazzie wrote: »

I think I read somewhere that only applies up to matchweek 19.

Yes. It's 10 now to get ban.

Bobby Baccala

What’s he waiting for this game needs a sub quick.

al87987

City looked great for a while but they have really taken their foot off the gas here since the 25 minute mark but we can't get any sort of pressure on them at all.

Where are the subs?

Surprised Pep's not being shown losing it on the sideline the last while.

wonga77

That's embarrassingly causal from City. Would love to see them caught out

TimeToShine

That is insultingly casual from Cancelo and then Ederson.

Finally some substitutions

beer enigma

I don't like Auba on the left, it's a waste

Underground

If Elneny plays then David Luiz needs to play cb just so we have someone deeper on the pitch who is willing to move the ball forward. We are basically sacrificing our ability to pass forward when he plays. Every single fcking time he passes it either sideways or backwards.

Elneny reminds me a lot of Denilson. I'll never understand how players like that make careers playing in center midfield without being able to pass the ball forward.

beer enigma

Tierney is knackered, real danger leaving him on

TimeToShine

Underground wrote: »

If Elneny plays then David Luiz needs to play cb just so we have someone deeper on the pitch who is willing to move the ball forward. We are basically sacrificing our ability to pass forward when he plays. Every single fcking time he passes it either sideways or backwards.

Elneny reminds me a lot of Denilson. I'll never understand how players like that make careers playing in center midfield without being able to pass the ball forward.

He's good to have on the bench as fodder to plug the last 20 minute gaps in games and let the starters get a rest. No reason he should ever be starting for us though.

Soups123

Underground wrote: »

If Elneny plays then David Luiz needs to play cb just so we have someone deeper on the pitch who is willing to move the ball forward. We are basically sacrificing our ability to pass forward when he plays. Every single fcking time he passes it either sideways or backwards.

Elneny reminds me a lot of Denilson. I'll never understand how players like that make careers playing in center midfield without being able to pass the ball forward.

They only get careers at Arsenal.

If Elneny plays 90 minutes here, Arteta is a fool. 8 minutes left may as well lose 2-0 having a go than accepting 1-0.

Starting Elneny was poor, keeping him on as poor as he had been is bad, giving him the full 90 is criminal

Soups123

beer enigma wrote: »

Tierney is knackered, real danger leaving him on

I’d say plan was to give him 60/70 mins but too many others have been too poor

I want to see a defender bring a gun onto the pitch and shoot someone as the ball is running out of play. Should be grand it seems.

Just talking to someone else who said Holding didn't have a bad game. And he's right, as far as Holding goes. But it shows we have a starting centre back who's bar is so low that getting beaten by Sterling for a headed goal and then injuring himself with a sloppy tackle constitutes "not a bad game" for him.

wonga77

Peak Luiz right there.

TimeToShine

wonga77 wrote: »

Peak Luiz right there.

Stones did the exact same thing to Auba and got away with it tbf

Azatadine

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I want to see a defender bring a gun onto the pitch and shoot someone as the ball is running out of play. Should be grand it seems.

Just talking to someone else who said Holding didn't have a bad game. And he's right, as far as Holding goes. But it shows we have a starting centre back who's bar is so low that getting beaten by Sterling for a headed goal and then injuring himself with a sloppy tackle constitutes "not a bad game" for him.

I think that's the situation with the whole team compared to even a few years ago. Same story with the likes of Elneny.

Bobby Baccala

No shame in a 1-0 loss to city they’re clearly a tier above us at the moment. Better than a 4-1 pasting.

wonga77

ah well. I thought we were in for an awful hiding after a minute. There's a serious gulf in class between the sides, City were sloppy, I think another team with a bit more belief might have got something there.
Not so sure that Saka and Tierney needed a full game like that. Would have likes to see ESR in a good bit earlier too.
Elneny wouldnt get in the City squad yet he plays most of the game for us, thats the difference

DenMan

At least we made them earn it!

Ol' Donie

Needed more urgency. Showed them way, way too much respect. Afraid to attack them even though they weren't threatening at all.

DenMan

It'll be the last time Elneny ever plays against City now guys.