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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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    #7322
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Sounds like a Test against Japan is in the offing:

    https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1391686817712332801


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    #7323
    CMcsporty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    That's great. Japan match should be a good test.

    RTÉ are going to be back showing 6N.
    Most importantly it will remain FTA.
    For now....
    https://twitter.com/IrishRugby/status/1391683320610689024?s=20


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    #7324
    hahashake
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭hahashake


    aloooof wrote: »
    Sounds like a Test against Japan is in the offing:

    https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1391686817712332801

    This will be a fascinating game. Will Ireland look to up the tempo or physically dominate?

    Chance for a bit of revenge either way.


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    #7325
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 10,438 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I hope Japan continue to be a team capable of turning us over. Be great for the game to have them as a legit top team, and it makes for more interesting matches in general.


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    #7326
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    hahashake wrote: »
    Chance for a bit of revenge either way.

    There's no chance for revenge because Ireland have never lost to Japan. If you think you remember a game where Ireland lost to Japan, then you are mistaken.


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    #7327
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users Posts: 4,483 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    hahashake wrote: »
    This will be a fascinating game. Will Ireland look to up the tempo or physically dominate?

    Chance for a bit of revenge either way.

    They beat us when it mattered. We gain nothing by beating them in a meaningless friendly. Nobody will feel any better about the RWC if we win this game, I dont think revenge is on the menu at all.


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    #7328
    Some Yoke
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭Some Yoke


    Quinn roux leaving ireland


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    #7329
    Shaka Hislop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 486 ✭✭Shaka Hislop


    Some Yoke wrote: »
    Quinn roux leaving ireland

    Yes indeed, most likely off to France.
    He's 30 & at his peak as a lock..a 2-3 year contract at Toulouse or Lyon will set him up financially before he returns home.


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    #7330
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 19,066 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    They beat us when it mattered. We gain nothing by beating them in a meaningless friendly. Nobody will feel any better about the RWC if we win this game, I dont think revenge is on the menu at all.

    Really?

    Given the fury I felt as I stropped out of that stadium in Hamamatsu I can quite categorically say it ain't meaningless and I want us to thump them.


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    #7331
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2021/05/10/tadhg-furlong-signs-irfu-contract-extension/

    Well, thank god for that.


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    #7332
    hahashake
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Never in doubt.;)


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    #7333
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    One year. Well that is strange. Good news though


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    #7334
    Shaka Hislop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 486 ✭✭Shaka Hislop


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2021/05/10/tadhg-furlong-signs-irfu-contract-extension/

    Well, thank god for that.

    It's only a year though....so it's quite likely he'll be moving on the season after.


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    #7335
    TRC10
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    Shaka Hislop wrote: »
    It's only a year though....so it's quite likely he'll be moving on the season after.

    He'll be able to demand an astronomical sum a year out from the WC. The IRFU will probably have some more money then with fans back in stadiums and Healy, Earls and Sexton riding off into the sunset and freeing up some funds.

    If he is definitely leaving next summer we should have just let him go now and hopefully got him back for the WC.


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    #7336
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    TRC10 wrote: »
    He'll be able to demand an astronomical sum a year out from the WC. The IRFU will probably have some more money then with fans back in stadiums and Healy, Earls and Sexton riding off into the sunset and freeing up some funds.

    If he is definitely leaving next summer we should have just let him go now and hopefully got him back for the WC.


    Furlong is playing the payday in 12 months time game


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    #7337
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    If he stays fit and starts another Lions series, he'll be one of the best paid in the world upon his next deal.


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    #7338
    TRC10
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Furlong is playing the payday in 12 months time game

    Who can blame him. He's probably the most valuable player in the world given his position and just how good he is.

    In fact I'd argue he's in the top 2 players in the world.

    Other than Furlong and Dupont, name a player who is the undisputed best in their position and as far ahead of the 2nd best as they are...


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    #7339
    OneLungDavy
    Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭OneLungDavy


    Just let him leave and keep picking him for Ireland, he's an exception to the rule.


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    #7340
    TRC10
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    OneLungDavy wrote: »
    Just let him leave and keep picking him for Ireland, he's an exception to the rule.

    No lets not let one of our best ever players leave


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    #7341
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    TRC10 wrote: »
    Who can blame him. He's probably the most valuable player in the world given his position and just how good he is.

    In fact I'd argue he's in the top 2 players in the world.

    Other than Furlong and Dupont, name a player who is the undisputed best in their position and as far ahead of the 2nd best as they are...

    I think this is pretty accurate tbh. Kolbe would come to mind, but it's in a much less influential position than either Furlong and Dupont.


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    #7342
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,819 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    If he stays fit and starts another Lions series, he'll be one of the best paid in the world upon his next deal.

    And rightly so.


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    #7343
    shootermacg
    Registered Users Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    TRC10 wrote: »
    who is the undisputed best in their position and as far ahead of the 2nd best as they are...

    James Ryan Will Skelton


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    #7344
    sprucemoose
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    TRC10 wrote: »
    name a player who is the undisputed best in their position and as far ahead of the 2nd best as they are...
    emily scarratt


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    #7345
    OldRio
    Registered Users Posts: 6,055 ✭✭✭OldRio


    TRC10 wrote: »
    Who can blame him. He's probably the most valuable player in the world given his position and just how good he is.

    In fact I'd argue he's in the top 2 players in the world.

    Other than Furlong and Dupont, name a player who is the undisputed best in their position and as far ahead of the 2nd best as they are...

    Sam Simmonds.


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    #7346
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    OneLungDavy wrote: »
    Just let him leave and keep picking him for Ireland, he's an exception to the rule.

    I would say that's exactly what will happen in a years time.
    1 year is odd.


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    #7347
    All My Stars Aligned
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭All My Stars Aligned


    I never understand how with Munster you get the JP's of this world picking up the tab for certain players yet no Leinster types do the same. It could easily solve the salary issue with Furlong.


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    #7348
    sprucemoose
    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    All My Stars Aligned wrote: »
    I never understand how with Munster you get the JP's of this world picking up the tab for certain players yet no Leinster types do the same. It could easily solve the salary issue with Furlong.

    thats how sexton came back i think


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    #7349
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 13,105 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    All My Stars Aligned wrote: »
    I never understand how with Munster you get the JP's of this world picking up the tab for certain players yet no Leinster types do the same. It could easily solve the salary issue with Furlong.

    Leinster have had private investment in the past, I think the training centre in UCD was built with a 7-figure donation from someone or other. Sexton possibly had some private investment for his contract after Racing, but going from memory there and open to correction.


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    #7350
    siltirocker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    Shaka Hislop wrote: »
    Yes indeed, most likely off to France.
    He's 30 & at his peak as a lock..a 2-3 year contract at Toulouse or Lyon will set him up financially before he returns home.

    Roux confirmed in his statement earlier that his intention is to return to Ireland to live/settle.


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    #7351
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,611 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Leinster have had private investment in the past, I think the training centre in UCD was built with a 7-figure donation from someone or other. Sexton possibly had some private investment for his contract after Racing, but going from memory there and open to correction.

    I am pretty sure Denis O'Brien picked up Sexton and Heaslip's top ups back in the day. Back when he was paying Martin O'Neil and naming science buildings after himself to try and rehabilitate his image.


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