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A kind gesture from your club

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    #32
    tyivpc5qjx0f2b
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    super saints wrote: »
    So any club be it golf or otherwise that are doing something for its members because of because of the lockdowns are not being financially prudent!?!

    Totally understandable for a club not to make a gesture if they were under pressure, but they are not!!!!!!!

    Lol that’s obviously not what I said.

    Succinctly, no gesture != members being taken for granted.

    I don’t know your club but obviously the details you have provided are vague at best. No pressure doesn’t automatically mean a need for a gesture.


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    #33
    JCDUB
    Registered Users Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭JCDUB


    We received a lovely gesture of a €100 "covid levy," with our membership books now full to capacity and closed, and huge difficulty accessing timesheets.

    We took in about 50 new members last year, with the majority having to pay a 7.5k entrance fee. If they are under 40 they start to pay it when they turn 40. Either way it gets paid.

    I'm disgusted. The club is financially very sound, even after a bad year. If we return to a full no golf lockdown this year I'll be asking for a reduction, I can't pay for a golf club/course that isn't accessible.

    The motion was passed at a zoom AGM btw.


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    #34
    blue note
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    JCDUB wrote: »
    We received a lovely gesture of a €100 "covid levy," with our membership books now full to capacity and closed, and huge difficulty accessing timesheets.

    We took in about 50 new members last year, with the majority having to pay a 7.5k entrance fee. If they are under 40 they start to pay it when they turn 40. Either way it gets paid.

    I'm disgusted. The club is financially very sound, even after a bad year. If we return to a full no golf lockdown this year I'll be asking for a reduction, I can't pay for a golf club/course that isn't accessible.

    The motion was passed at a zoom AGM btw.

    What club is that? Or if you don't want to say, is it a members club?

    That's an absolute disgrace if the club is financially sound as you say. Shame on those members who voted it in.

    And of course with that sort of joining fee I'd be that members will be very reluctant to leave.


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    #35
    rickis tache
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    JCDUB wrote: »
    We received a lovely gesture of a €100 "covid levy," with our membership books now full to capacity and closed, and huge difficulty accessing timesheets.

    We took in about 50 new members last year, with the majority having to pay a 7.5k entrance fee. If they are under 40 they start to pay it when they turn 40. Either way it gets paid.

    I'm disgusted. The club is financially very sound, even after a bad year. If we return to a full no golf lockdown this year I'll be asking for a reduction, I can't pay for a golf club/course that isn't accessible.

    The motion was passed at a zoom AGM btw.
    If they are under 40 they start to pay it when they turn 40.....so what happens should they leave before they turn. .....I probably am reading that wrong.


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    #36
    JCDUB
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    blue note wrote: »
    What club is that? Or if you don't want to say, is it a members club?

    That's an absolute disgrace if the club is financially sound as you say. Shame on those members who voted it in.

    And of course with that sort of joining fee I'd be that members will be very reluctant to leave.

    Yep, well known member's club in Dublin.

    Club is financially sound. In fairness, like all clubs they lost society and, to a lesser extent, competition and bar revenue last year.

    I'm very upset though, can't believe it really.


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    #37
    JCDUB
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    rickis tache wrote: »
    If they are under 40 they start to pay it when they turn 40.....so what happens should they leave before they turn. .....I probably am reading that wrong.

    Nope, you're reading it right. Potentially someone could join when they're 25 and leave the year they turn 40, but that really doesn't happen.


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    #38
    chalky_ie
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    Nothing, and my fee went up 300 quid as I moved into a new intermediate category. Getting to the point where I'm questioning if it's worth the price for what I get, but not sure if I want the hassle of finding a new club.


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    #39
    fungie
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    JCDUB wrote: »
    Yep, well known member's club in Dublin.

    Club is financially sound. In fairness, like all clubs they lost society and, to a lesser extent, competition and bar revenue last year.

    I'm very upset though, can't believe it really.

    Is it a golf club on Bull island?


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    #40
    JCDUB
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    fungie wrote: »
    Is it a golf club on Bull island?

    That would be correct.


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    #41
    bamayang
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    We got a mail this week to say if we are joined and paid before March, we get 10% subs back for club shop/ bar. Nice enough.


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    #42
    rickis tache
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    Usually fees were to be paid by end of March but that's changed now to Jan 31.


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    #43
    desoconnor1959
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    Paid €1200 for 2020. Fees for 2021 reduced to €950 which includes €50 for the pro shop. Very please when you consider the amount of golf lost this year.


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    #44
    rickis tache
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    rickis tache wrote: »
    Usually fees were to be paid by end of March but that's changed now to Jan 31.

    Been told that from Feb membership will go from 790 to 1350.


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    #45
    Ollieboy
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    rickis tache wrote: »
    Been told that from Feb membership will go from 790 to 1350.

    I’m guessing your moving from a underage category to full?


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    #46
    rickis tache
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭rickis tache


    Ollieboy wrote: »
    I’m guessing your moving from a underage category to full?

    Nope. New owners. Big changes.looking for a drop in members to make way for more green fees. Members are taking up a huge amount of tee times and new hotel being built on site.


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    #47
    dan_ep82
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    rickis tache wrote: »
    Been told that from Feb membership will go from 790 to 1350.


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    #48
    Ollieboy
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    rickis tache wrote: »
    Nope. New owners. Big changes.looking for a drop in members to make way for more green fees. Members are taking up a huge amount of tee times and new hotel being built on site.

    Is that Deer Park? That’s a big jump for the same product but I’m guessing it’s not members owned.


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    #49
    rickis tache
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    Ollieboy wrote: »
    Is that Deer Park? That’s a big jump for the same product but I’m guessing it’s not members owned.

    Not in dublin and yes it's not owned by members. Shame though. Nice track.


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    #50
    tbayers
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    Local club made more profit in 2020 than it did in 2019. Membership has stayed the same and not a hint of anything back for months of golf being missed. Haven't renewed and won't lose any sleep over it. Will join back up next year when I can actually make use of club atmosphere and the service of playing golf itself. At the moment we have seen around 25% reduction in services (so far) yet people are paying full whack. It is crazy and every other club I am a part of have reduced or paused membership.


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    #51
    flugel
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    rickis tache wrote: »
    Been told that from Feb membership will go from 790 to 1350.

    Wonder will they soften their hard-line stance any with latest level 5 restrictions

    I doubt it


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    #52
    Kingswood Rover
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    The Club i am in Blessington Lakes has fought long and hard over the past 3 years to be in control of its own destiny. Part of this fight was an increase in membership fees in the 1st 2 years to ensure sustainability. This meant that the club could give a modest reduction in subs last year to reward loyal members who have stuck by the club through the changeover from a private ownership model to a members run facility. The club felt it was vital to give something back to its full members for the coming year and so have set our renewal at € 619 plus your Golf Ireland Fee. Yes we are only a nine hole club with alternative tee boxes on the 2nd nine but its always in good nick and the views from the course of the mountains and lakes as you play......you swear you were in Wicklow. Our annual sub cycle runs from the March 1st to Feb 28th/29th the following year. The club has an enticing offer of €550 for new members or returning members having being away for a year.


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    #53
    copacetic
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    It’s probably bad timing for some clubs with renewals due and 1/2/3 months of no golf ahead. Mostly saved by rising popularity of golf with other sports probably to be locked down longer, so the 5% who don’t renew have a queue to replace them I’m sure but with a cash flow gap for clubs on top of lack of green fees etc now.


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    #54
    fungie
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    Managed to get subs reduced 100eur from an already reduced amount but this was done via haggling as part of a largeish group of recently joined members.


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    #55
    rickis tache
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭rickis tache


    flugel wrote: »
    Wonder will they soften their hard-line stance any with latest level 5 restrictions

    I doubt it
    Unlikely. At best they will extend the payment date of Jan 31 to Feb 28 imo. Some have paid up already but plenty are waiting to see outcome of lockdown. My membership finished yesterday once lockdown came into effect and I am moving to another club but it only opened for a week after last lockdown due to flooding.


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