Krispy Kreme to open in New Central Plaza, Dame Street

Pasteur.

BeerNut wrote: »

Yes, if there's one thing we need it's tighter government control on what we're allowed to eat and drink. If only the state would nanny us harder, for our own good :rolleyes:

At least we can be reasonably sure there'll be a Chopped nearby. There's always a Chopped nearby.

That's what we do need, tighter regulation on food sale and production

It will happen down the line

GhostyMcGhost

VonLuck wrote: »

What does everyone have against Krispy Kreme? I've never had one myself, but what would you have expected to go into the unit?

Weatherspoons

lawred2

A fairly underwhelming anchor tenant

Biker79

BryanMartin21 wrote: »

We will lock down society for people's own good but allow this poison to be sold freely, whether in donut shops or in supermarkets. The ingredients should not be considered food considering the processing involved to create them and our bodies are ill-equipped to deal with them. It's a bizarre world we live in where personal responsibility is only allowed within the confines of heavily-lobbied-for laws enabling corporations to poison society and make money from it.

The truth is, anyone in a good state of health can eat this rubbish of they like, with no consequences.

However, when you have a significant portion of the population who arent healthy, and who are the most likely to eat this stuff..then you have a problem.

The HSE takes the lions share of the national budget. 70% of illnesses are lifestyle-related, according to a survey of GPs. So the obvious conclusion to draw here is that the country as a whole will be better off financially if lifestyles are healthier.

If that takes a ' nanny state ' then so be it. Sadly some people aren't up to personal responsibility.

BeerNut

Biker79 wrote: »

If that takes a ' nanny state ' then so be it.

But it be'nt. You can't legislate people into being healthy. You just end up pissing them off without solving any problems. This is the story of Ireland's regulation of alcohol.

As CS Lewis put it:

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.

"Ban Krispy Kreme because it's bad for you" only makes sense if you are steadfastly determined not to think things through.

Biker79

BeerNut wrote: »

But it be'nt. You can't legislate people into being healthy. You just end up pissing them off without solving any problems. This is the story of Ireland's regulation of alcohol.

As CS Lewis put it:


"Ban Krispy Kreme because it's bad for you" only makes sense if you are steadfastly determined not to think things through.

The Health sector is one of the last industries to go digital. When it does, we will see personal dashboards that offer tailored information on how lifestyle choices increase/ decrease a propensity towards illness.

That data will be used at a national level - like national health 'r' number. If it's below a certain point, lit could mean fewer restrictions on smoking, booze and sugar...if it goes above, then these become more restricted/ higher taxes etc.

There would be a lot of support for something like this, to ease the burden of the HSE on the taxpayer.

CS Lewis could never have envisaged data-driven management, so that quote is misleading, just like the idea of a ' nanny state ' is also misleading.

angel eyes 2012

Biker79 wrote: »

The Health sector is one of the last industries to go digital. When it does, we will see personal dashboards that offer tailored information on how lifestyle choices increase/ decrease a propensity towards illness.

That data will be used at a national level - like national health 'r' number. If it's below a certain point, lit could mean fewer restrictions on smoking, booze and sugar...if it goes above, then these become more restricted/ higher taxes etc.

There would be a lot of support for something like this, to ease the burden of the HSE on the taxpayer.

CS Lewis could never have envisaged data-driven management, so that quote is misleading, just like the idea of a ' nanny state ' is also misleading.

Equally, CS Lewis never could have envisaged the introduction of the GDPR which sets out that such profiling is only permitted in extreme limited circumstances.

I disagree with you, I don't envisage there would be a lot of support for such infringement of privacy rights and the HSE would have a battle to properly introduce such measures. Recent problems with extending the powers of the Public Services Card acts as an example of a public body running away with itself before examining any data protection risks.

Anyway, back to Krispy Kreme donuts.

BeerNut

Biker79 wrote: »

we will see personal dashboards that offer tailored information on how lifestyle choices increase/ decrease a propensity towards illness.

The idea that the multitude of analogue systems that make up each individual's health can be digitally quantified and then adjusted on an input-output basis is the sort of thing that tech bros and politicians believe but has no basis in medical reality.

Muahahaha

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Gift shops selling Chinese tat staffed by Brazilians. They're just awful.

I sometimes wonder about the expressions on the faces of the packing line workers in the Chinese factory when they see thousands of stuffed leprechauns coming rolling down the conveyor belt.

Paddico

Another chain to add to Dublin Streets.
Soon all the streets will resemble the high street in the UK with 90% predictability

VonLuck

Paddico wrote: »

Another chain to add to Dublin Streets.
Soon all the streets will resemble the high street in the UK with 90% predictability

What did you expect would go in there? Highly unlikely that a brand new Irish business would set up shop there.

silver2020

I never understand the naysayers that come on to complain about everything.

This is great for that location especially if they are making the donuts on site - it will add some theatrics.


I don't get the "everyone will get fat" argument either - again naysayers looking for any negative angle they can get. Maybe stop supermarkets selling biscuits and chocolate and crisps?


This will attract large numbers to the area and all businesses there will get a lift in trade.

Superb choice of use imo and I don't live in Dublin (did many years ago in the day of American Classics, original Bad ass cafe and Eager beaver.)

Cienciano

Christ, some amount of miserable delusional people in this thread. Of course it was going to be a big money company taking a location like that. Donuts is perfect as it's foot traffic. As for it being unhealthy, almost every restaurant or takeaway in the country is fecking well unhealthy. You're not being forced to buy it.

And as for the architectural value, it's small glass box at the base of one of the ugliest buildings in Dublin!