Buying options (post Brexit)

Tin Man

I've been looking at Amazon.de, Amazon.es, Amazon.fr and a German site called CaseKing.de to put together a new pc build. My only worry is the power cable to the plug on the wall for a 700w sfx PSU

Does anyone know if I'll need to get an adaptor and is an adaptor ok for a 700w PSU or will I need something else?

Could I just replace the plug cable with another one either by re-wiring it like a normal plug or replacing the whole cable?

I've got a 700w ATX PSU from the last PC I bought in 2013. Would the plug cable from that be the same?

Lumen

Tin Man wrote: »

I've been looking at Amazon.de, Amazon.es, Amazon.fr and a German site called CaseKing.de to put together a new pc build. My only worry is the power cable to the plug on the wall for a 700w sfx PSU

Does anyone know if I'll need to get an adaptor and is an adaptor ok for a 700w PSU or will I need something else?

Could I just replace the plug cable with another one either by re-wiring it like a normal plug or replacing the whole cable?

I've got a 700w ATX PSU from the last PC I bought in 2013. Would the plug cable from that be the same?

I wouldn't worry about it. You can use a different cable or an adaptor. This one is 10A which is enough for over 2KW.

https://ie.rs-online.com/web/p/travel-adapters/7839565

minitrue

The power cables from wall to PSU are 100% standard (I still call them kettle leads) so yes, you could use your old one (or replace it with a new cheap normal one).

TheRover

Tin Man wrote: »

I've been looking at Amazon.de, Amazon.es, Amazon.fr and a German site called CaseKing.de to put together a new pc build. My only worry is the power cable to the plug on the wall for a 700w sfx PSU

Does anyone know if I'll need to get an adaptor and is an adaptor ok for a 700w PSU or will I need something else?

Could I just replace the plug cable with another one either by re-wiring it like a normal plug or replacing the whole cable?

I've got a 700w ATX PSU from the last PC I bought in 2013. Would the plug cable from that be the same?

Do you mean this sort of power cable? https://www.amazon.co.uk/C2G-Metre-Power-IEC320C13-Kettle-Black/dp/B002DWA8I2/ref=sr_1_4?


As long as the fuse is still working, anything you have laying around the house should be fine. I am pretty certain my own PSU is not using the power cable that came with it.

Xenoronin

Yup, it's just a "kettle lead". Just replace the whole cable, it's the same as the one you have from 2013. Adapters would also work fine as a temporary workaround.

TheValeyard

minitrue wrote: »

The power cables from wall to PSU are 100% standard (I still call them kettle leads) so yes, you could use your old one (or replace it with a new cheap normal one).

Hold up.

The power cable for my 860W and 1600w are very different. Same end plug, but the adapter bit is much thicker. Think they use the C19.

So the days of standard cables for PSU to wall maybe coming to an end for higher PSU. But I'd say most are the same.

Cuddlesworth

TheValeyard wrote: »

Hold up.

The power cable for my 860W and 1600w are very different. Same end plug, but the adapter bit is much thicker. Think they use the C19.

So the days of standard cables for PSU to wall maybe coming to an end for higher PSU. But I'd say most are the same.

C13 is meant to be rated to 10 amps, which is 2200 watts. I'd guess your 1600w uses a C19 connecter because its accounting for the US energy grid(10 amps, 110v, 1100watts).

It's fair to say that a 1600 watt psu is not normal though.

TheValeyard

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

C13 is meant to be rated to 10 amps, which is 2200 watts. I'd guess your 1600w uses a C19 connecter because its accounting for the US energy grid(10 amps, 110v, 1100watts).

It's fair to say that a 1600 watt psu is not normal though.

I'd agree 1600 is not normal but as GPUs get more beefy it could become common over time.

Cuddlesworth

TheValeyard wrote: »

I'd agree 1600 is not normal but as GPUs get more beefy it could become common over time.

I can't see this current trend of super power hungry gpu's continuing. We went down this path before, the industry has always segway'd into a better mechanism then more size + power + heat.



I'd like to be a fly on the wall of somebody gaming in a room in summer with a circa 800 watt system while gaming. Thats a ****e load of heat into a room.

Homelander

Why would you even need a 1600W PSU? I am genuinely curious. You would run RTX3090 in triple SLI with a 10900K at champion levels and you'd still have healthy headroom.

Don't get me wrong some people have legit need for huge wattage supplies but I find there is a massive amount of them get purchased based on 'more is better' or that wattage somehow correlates with quality or how "high end" the PC is.

Or else vague statements like "future upgrades".

Serephucus

Having not read the entire thread, is there a tl;dr for the best place to order stuff at the moment?

Amazon UK are charging some pretty hefty import taxes depending on what's in the basket.
Scan aren't shipping to Ireland unless you call them up, and even then there'll likely be more charges.
Not sure about Overclockers, but they're pretty pricey usually anyway. Same with Caseking.
Amazon DE/ES, etc. seem to be a good option, but prices seem to be quite a bit higher than UK.

TheRover

Serephucus wrote: »

Having not read the entire thread, is there a tl;dr for the best place to order stuff at the moment?

Amazon UK are charging some pretty hefty import taxes depending on what's in the basket.
Scan aren't shipping to Ireland unless you call them up, and even then there'll likely be more charges.
Not sure about Overclockers, but they're pretty pricey usually anyway. Same with Caseking.
Amazon DE/ES, etc. seem to be a good option, but prices seem to be quite a bit higher than UK.

Seems amazon.co.uk is still the place to go. For computer parts only the VAT changes from 21% to 23%. And for items under €22, no VAT

Ordered a Corsair PSU this morning (125 quid for the RM850x these days is a very reasonable price) and the Silverstone Fara R1 popped up this morning for 55, which I also totally would have bought if I hadn't spent a bit extra on the be quiet 500DX from amazon.es last week.


Also got 4 arctic fans from amazon.co.uk, but made 4 separate purchases to avail of VAT discount


As for prices, I find some stuff is cheaper on other amazons - monitors on amazon.fr for example, even with the extra postage

Serephucus

You sure? Because I just threw a random B550 (£136) board into a basket, and I get this:

Aodhan5000

Serephucus wrote: »

You sure? Because I just threw a random B550 (£136) board into a basket, and I get this:

Varies from product to product depending on supplier

py2006

Make sure its not a third party seller

Skerries

that's the Irish vat at 21%

TheRover

Serephucus wrote: »

You sure? Because I just threw a random B550 (£136) board into a basket, and I get this:

I'd say the board wasn't 136.27 as per your screenshot. It was probably a bit more, and on checkout UK VAT was removed and IE VAT was added

Homelander

I've tried a few things and on all items that are around the same price as that screenshot (£130) there is another £28 in import fees, even items sold directly by Amazon themselves.

Tried 2 processors and two boards.

Also tried OCUK and got a message "Items cannot be shipped to this address".

Tin Man

I think it's going to take a few months for UK deliveries to smooth out. Amazon are big enough to brute force it but sites like OC and Scan probably just don't want the hassle.
I need a new computer so I don't mind shopping around on the European sites. At least the prices are in Euros and I know there won't be any surprises or last minute custom charges. My biggest issue is probably waiting on the items from France to Ireland. I think An Post are still working through a back log of packages from before Xmas and will be till the end of the month

TheRover

My invoice on amazon.co.uk for a £125 PSU this morning

Item(s) Subtotal: £104.17
Postage & Packing: £0.00
Total Before VAT: £104.17
VAT: £0.00
Total: £104.17
Import Fees Deposit £21.88
Grand Total: £126.05

Which is basically 1 VAT out, another VAT in

Homelander

Just looked at CaseKing.

Outrageous delivery charges. €55 for a B550M + 5600 to Ireland.

seraphimvc

Serephucus wrote: »

You sure? Because I just threw a random B550 (£136) board into a basket, and I get this:

thats actually correct, i just tried one myself. They show the pre-tax price at checkout and then add in the tax/import they estimated.

what you see on the item page:


what you see at checkout:


from what i have seen so far, amazon is actually still a good option right now, but just not for most items anymore (depend on where is the seller). So the price looks like there will be 1-3% higher than site listed price (from my memory), but amazon remains as a competitive place nonetheless. Welp, it was THE BEST place for most things i need in the past 8 years.:o

Tin Man

TheRover wrote: »

My invoice on amazon.co.uk for a £125 PSU this morning

Item(s) Subtotal: £104.17
Postage & Packing: £0.00
Total Before VAT: £104.17
VAT: £0.00
Total: £104.17
Import Fees Deposit £21.88
Grand Total: £126.05

Which is basically 1 VAT out, another VAT in

That would be amazing. Have you had anything delivered to your door yet?

ronivek

Homelander wrote: »

Just looked at CaseKing.

Outrageous delivery charges. €55 for a B550M + 5600 to Ireland.

I wouldn't touch CaseKing to be honest. They perpetually show items in stock when they clearly aren't; e.g. they've been claiming they have 5900x and 5950x in stock these past few days which would be very odd indeed if it were true.

I recently bought from https://www.computeruniverse.net/ and although it took them a few days I got the DHL shipping number there today. Shipping is still a touch pricey but for the parts I needed they had very good prices compared to just about everyone else including Amazon.de so it worked out for me.

ronivek

Also https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ did switch briefly to offering DHL to Ireland but it was pricey; and now I see they've removed the option again. No word from DPD on when they'll resume shipping and the promised update on Tuesday never appeared.

TheValeyard

Homelander wrote: »

Why would you even need a 1600W PSU? I am genuinely curious. You would run RTX3090 in triple SLI with a 10900K at champion levels and you'd still have healthy headroom.

Don't get me wrong some people have legit need for huge wattage supplies but I find there is a massive amount of them get purchased based on 'more is better' or that wattage somehow correlates with quality or how "high end" the PC is.

Or else vague statements like "future upgrades".

No choice. Literally could not get a Corsair PSU between 860-1200W. Was all out of stock.

Pangea

TheRover wrote: »

My invoice on amazon.co.uk for a £125 PSU this morning

Item(s) Subtotal: £104.17
Postage & Packing: £0.00
Total Before VAT: £104.17
VAT: £0.00
Total: £104.17
Import Fees Deposit £21.88
Grand Total: £126.05

Which is basically 1 VAT out, another VAT in

It will be interesting to see if you have any charges to pay upon entry i.e administration etc

Was hoping to get a Seasonic psu bit might go for this instead , although amazon delivery says February now, might just pay the extra on Currys.

I saw a Seasonic on a German site ,Does getting a psu with a European plug and adaptor bother anyone? I don't think I would go for one , I just prefer UK Éire Plug.
Edit just seen the posts about it a few pages back

MugsGame

Amazon UK prices are exactly the same as before for most items (apart from low value items which are temporarily exempt from VAT).

They always charged us Irish VAT, but they're now presenting the information a little differently.

Squidgy Black

Pangea wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if you have any charges to pay upon entry i.e administration etc

Was hoping to get a Seasonic psu bit might go for this instead , although amazon delivery says February now, might just pay the extra on Currys.

I saw a Seasonic on a German site ,Does getting a psu with a European plug and adaptor bother anyone? I don't think I would go for one , I just prefer UK Éire Plug.
Edit just seen the posts about it a few pages back

The handy thing with Amazon is you'll never pay any extra charges other than what they already charged you for the import fees deposit. If it's more than they originally thought they have to cover it, and in theory (although I've never heard of it happening) if it's lower then they refund.

Nicks delight

There are a more than a few things wrong with Currys at the moment here in Ireland. They don't have any graphics card, old (last generation) or up-to-date Graphics cards, Ram and CPU's and when they have anything, they are heavily overpriced. currently today, they had 4 different ram memories and they were all ddr3 and low frequency basic budget cards. Their sata SSD and M.2 are small, expensive. So many other products are just not in stock, and when they are, they are often only availible to buy online. Curries are discriminating all the people that can't order online. Sure, government recommend to buy online and shut down stores earlier for a time, but even when they were open Currys still only sell what seems the vast majority of their products on line only, at least when it came to graphics card and pc stuff. I even went to the store as their website said available in store.....when I got there I was told by staff it had not been in stock for a long time. The winner of the Sour Kipper Award 2020 goes to.....
I actually had to order the product that I wanted, not only from England-Currys, but from EBAY-CURRY-ENGLAND SHOP to get what I wanted. If there is any halfbright politician/minister out there: Just implement proper ferry connections to Mainland EU for supply and trade where we don't have to pay the import tax to UK. I'm sure Irish ferries would like more trade. Solve the direct supply route and we have solved the supply blockage in UK and unnecessary price hikes to Irish consumers.

Nicks delight

Homelander wrote: »

I've tried a few things and on all items that are around the same price as that screenshot (£130) there is another £28 in import fees, even items sold directly by Amazon themselves.

Tried 2 processors and two boards.

Also tried OCUK and got a message "Items cannot be shipped to this address".

Same for me....One seller on Amazon UK could send me DDR4 2X16 GB AND ALSO 2X8 GB Ram Corsair (or something like that) memory, but could not send me 2x32 GB memory of the same brand even if they were in stock. That is just weird as they more or less weigh the same and are the same size.:)

Pangea

Nicks delight wrote: »

Same for me....One seller on Amazon UK could send me DDR4 2X16 GB AND ALSO 2X8 GB Ram Corsair (or something like that) memory, but could not send me 2x32 GB memory of the same brand even if they were in stock. That is just weird as they more or less weigh the same and are the same size.:)

And why is that?

Suckit

Pangea wrote: »

And why is that?

At a guess, they aren't prepared for Brexit yet. They may be registered in UK, but as a seller on Amazon platform they may have to pay their own taxes etc.

Pompous

Just received an email from currys.ie to say their RTX3070 is back in stock. I checked the website to see it's not only sold out again but they raised the price from €650 to €720.

And here I thought the scalpers on adverts.ie were bad...

Pangea

Pompous wrote: »

Just received an email from currys.ie to say their RTX3070 is back in stock. I checked the website to see it's not only sold out again but they raised the price from €650 to €720.

And here I thought the scalpers on adverts.ie were bad...

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3603135/more-graphics-card-makers-roll-out-significant-price-hikes.html

Pompous

Pangea wrote: »

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3603135/more-graphics-card-makers-roll-out-significant-price-hikes.html

€650 was already a pretty big hike by currys on the $500 (€420) release price.

Nicks delight

Pompous wrote: »

€650 was already a pretty big hike by currys on the $500 (€420) release price.

I...well...uhmm....so I'm still not getting why we are paying more in Europe as we are already paying tax on these goods and have done all along. US on the other hand have not paid tax on Chinese products (until now), so I can understand why Americans pay a higher price now. The cards are coming from China. Sure looks like Currys in EU/UK became a Scalper.

Not surprised really...oh, the wind is blowing from the left today, we have to increase the prices....next day....from the right...increase prices. Hard times, the wind is not blowing at all today....oh, then we have to implement an emergency noblow tax. lol

Suckit

Pccomponentes.com had the MSI RTX3070 for €560 fairly recently. I am pretty sure they deliver to Ireland. It was a long time ago that I think I used them but I am almost 100% it was them. I saw the offer on Telegram but can't find it now. I think it was €550 + shipping. Might be worth looking if Currys are asking €720.


EDIT -

Out of stock at minute - https://www.pccomponentes.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-ventus-3x-oc-8gb-gddr6

K.O.Kiki

Pangea wrote: »

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3603135/more-graphics-card-makers-roll-out-significant-price-hikes.html

But those are tariffs IN AMERICA.
They're not supposed to affect us here.

spix

Suckit wrote: »

Pccomponentes.com had the MSI RTX3070 for €560 fairly recently. I am pretty sure they deliver to Ireland. It was a long time ago that I think I used them but I am almost 100% it was them. I saw the offer on Telegram but can't find it now. I think it was €550 + shipping. Might be worth looking if Currys are asking €720.


EDIT -

Out of stock at minute - https://www.pccomponentes.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-ventus-3x-oc-8gb-gddr6

Dont waste your time trying on this site. I tried to order something in stock and at checkout wouldn't let me pay even though accepting my irish address and gave shipping option. There was some covid excuse apologising.

Suckit

spix wrote: »

Dont waste your time trying on this site. I tried to order something in stock and at checkout wouldn't let me pay even though accepting my irish address and gave shipping option. There was some covid excuse apologising.

It's not in stock anyway.
I just checked, and when I last bought from them was late November 2017, so three ish years ago.
Maybe they did have covid issues when you ordered. I know that currently Spanish shipping has been massively delayed due to snow and the weather as well.

There is also this option, I've never tried them before but it's most likely to be less than €30 shipping according to their calculator.
https://spainbox.com/mailboxes/
Or these
https://shipping-address-spain.com/

spix

Suckit wrote: »

It's not in stock anyway.
I just checked, and when I last bought from them was late November 2017, so three ish years ago.
Maybe they did have covid issues when you ordered. I know that currently Spanish shipping has been massively delayed due to snow and the weather as well.

There is also this option, I've never tried them before but it's most likely to be less than €30 shipping according to their calculator.
https://spainbox.com/mailboxes/
Or these
https://shipping-address-spain.com/

It was only around 3 days ago I tried so likely same thing now. The excuse translate to something like 'cash on delivery is not accepted due to covid' a bit unrelated as wouldn't be doing cash on delivery but there was no other payment option, it was just blank and couldn't proceed through checkout. It looks like they've disabled international deliveries for now.

ozmo

TheRover wrote: »

My invoice on amazon.co.uk for a £125 PSU this morning
Item(s) Subtotal: £104.17
Grand Total: £126.05

Ok - so about 1% extra to cover cost of Vat - same as last year -

But if its over 150 euros - then there is the Customs Duty also... I'm assuming Amazon take care of this also? - so we wont have to pay DHL handling fees when it arrives??

Has anyone ordered anything over 150 from UK yet?

Adding a 180 pound item (cpu) I get in the basket:

Order Summary
Items: GBP 156.66
Postage & Packing: GBP 0.00
Import Fees Deposit: GBP 32.90
Order Total: GBP 189.56 (so + about 10 pounds to Uk price)


?

MugsGame

Most goods should be customs exempt due either to the origin or type of goods, provided vendor has filled out customs declarations correctly.

spix

The 3070 gigabyte was in stock at currys, had it at checkout about to buy but passed on it as gigabyte failed a bit with the ram cooling on the 3xxx cards, no thermal pads between backplate and ram resulting in thermal throttling in memory intensive tasks. Might be ok on the 3070 but was big issue on the 3080, even if core temperature is low, card throttles and speeds up fan to cool the memory chips. Other MFR cards didnt have same issue.

spix

pm me for link to in stock gigabyte 3070 for slightly less price than currys

Gbear

I know this is for buying specifically, but does anyone have any info on RMAs/returns following Brexit?

I got a Sabrent m2 1TB drive off Amazon in october (flash sale), but there seems to be something wrong with it as its making my system crash constantly.

Squidgy Black

Gbear wrote: »

I know this is for buying specifically, but does anyone have any info on RMAs/returns following Brexit?

I got a Sabrent m2 1TB drive off Amazon in october (flash sale), but there seems to be something wrong with it as its making my system crash constantly.

I sent something back to amazon yesterday, they just give you a customs invoice you have to give to an post when you drop it off, other than that was standard stuff.

tar_mac

ozmo wrote: »

Ok - so about 1% extra to cover cost of Vat - same as last year -

But if its over 150 euros - then there is the Customs Duty also... I'm assuming Amazon take care of this also? - so we wont have to pay DHL handling fees when it arrives??

Has anyone ordered anything over 150 from UK yet?

Adding a 180 pound item (cpu) I get in the basket:

Order Summary
Items: GBP 156.66
Postage & Packing: GBP 0.00
Import Fees Deposit: GBP 32.90
Order Total: GBP 189.56 (so + about 10 pounds to Uk price)


?

I just received an order from Amazon.co.uk there placed on the 11th Jan over €150. No extra fees bar the ones mentioned below.

Order Summary
Item(s) Subtotal:£277.90
Postage & Packing:£0.00
Total Before VAT:£277.90
VAT:£0.00
Total:£277.90
Import Fees Deposit£58.36

Grand Total:£336.26

Pangea

https://www.newstalk.com/news/currys-pc-world-apologises-after-some-irish-customers-mistakenly-asked-to-pay-import-duty-1137219?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1611057525