Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

Fitz*

Surely Jota is back soon if they are going to let Taki go?

It was mentioned a lot when Taki was signed that one of the main reasons they pursued the deal was because his release value was so undervalued. They valued him closer to £20m, as opposed to the £7m they paid for him.

A strong loan in the PL with a manager who plays a similar style might suit Taki. That said, if the club get offered a deal around £20m for him, they'll accept that and use it to fund summer signings.

rob316

Good loan move that would be for taki, get a proper look at him. He was always a win win signing

MD1990

Fitz* wrote: »

Surely Jota is back soon if they are going to let Taki go?

It was mentioned a lot when Taki was signed that one of the main reasons they pursued the deal was because his release value was so undervalued. They valued him closer to £20m, as opposed to the £7m they paid for him.

A strong loan in the PL with a manager who plays a similar style might suit Taki. That said, if the club get offered a deal around £20m for him, they'll accept that and use it to fund summer signings.

Jota,Shaq,Origi,Jones,Ox & maybe even Keita are ahead of Minamino in the front 3.

murpho999

rob316 wrote: »

Good loan move that would be for taki, get a proper look at him. He was always a win win signing

I never see these moves as good for them in terms of their prospects at the club they're at. Boss basically saying you're surplus to requirements as he's not a junior needing experience.

Harry Palmr

Poor fella. Arrives as a spare part and leaves as one. I doubt we'll him in a Liverpool shirt again.

yourdeadwright

Taki move. Is a good one for everyone involved
Gets to see if he is actually any use now

~Rebel~

Quite happy with that loan. We already saw with RB that there's a player in there - but he needs game-time to get up to speed in the premier league. The bar is a bit too high at Liverpool to really get that breaking in time. Southampton is a great option, with good strikers ahead of him to feed, and a nice attacking high energy system to slot into.

martyos121

It just seems like Taki was a penny stock punt by the club that didn’t really pay off, and it’ll be next to impossible to lose any real money from it.

The timing of COVID arriving in the UK last year really, really hurt his chances of his Liverpool career ever getting off the ground. It was unfortunate, but he should do alright at the Saints.

yourdeadwright

Costa on loan anyone

happyoutscan

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Quite happy with that loan. We already saw with RB that there's a player in there - but he needs game-time to get up to speed in the premier league. The bar is a bit too high at Liverpool to really get that breaking in time. Southampton is a great option, with good strikers ahead of him to feed, and a nice attacking high energy system to slot into.

Very well summed up Rebel.

gimli2112

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Costa on loan anyone

Nope there's certain characters you wouldn't want to see at the club. Ramos, Costa and Mourinho off the top of my head. I know you could say we'd support them if they came, I really couldn't.
Sure I loved Suarez but I'm full of contradictions like that.

yourdeadwright

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Quite happy with that loan. We already saw with RB that there's a player in there - but he needs game-time to get up to speed in the premier league. The bar is a bit too high at Liverpool to really get that breaking in time. Southampton is a great option, with good strikers ahead of him to feed, and a nice attacking high energy system to slot into.

Have to agree with you, Saints play a game based on high intensity so its a great opportunity for him to get a run of games and see can he perform,
As you said unfortunately this season we cant afford to have patience with anyone who due to the injury problems

BRYAN Is Ainm Dom

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Costa on loan anyone

Costa is free agent. Wouldn't be surprised to see him sign for English club.

billymitchell

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1356361268307914752?s=19

yourdeadwright

BRYAN Is Ainm Dom wrote: »

Costa is free agent. Wouldn't be surprised to see him sign for English club.

Surely a betting option than Origi,
We are short up from now,

murpho999

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Quite happy with that loan. We already saw with RB that there's a player in there - but he needs game-time to get up to speed in the premier league. The bar is a bit too high at Liverpool to really get that breaking in time. Southampton is a great option, with good strikers ahead of him to feed, and a nice attacking high energy system to slot into.

Do you think it's good for his Liverpool career?

A senior player going out on loan is not a good sign. Can't think of any player who's done it and then come back and got into the team.

yourdeadwright

murpho999 wrote: »

Do you think it's good for his Liverpool career?

A senior player going out on loan is not a good sign. Can't think of any player who's done it and then come back and got into the team.

Origi done it, well got the chance to

davidm20

Am I right saying for an initial outlay of £1.5 we got 2 centre backs...were we not over a barrel??

Agent Coulson

Agreement in principle agreed for a 6 month loan for Minamino.

He is doing a medical now.

RugbyLover123

Melissa Reddys latest tweet would lead me to believe we are going big in the summer for a CB.

yourdeadwright

Is Dzeko on a free?

DVDM93

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Melissa Reddys latest tweet would lead me to believe we are going big in the summer for a CB.

https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/1356361525754277889?s=20

Blanco100

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Melissa Reddys latest tweet would lead me to believe we are going big in the summer for a CB.

What did she say?

Edit: see it now

~Rebel~

murpho999 wrote: »

Do you think it's good for his Liverpool career?

A senior player going out on loan is not a good sign. Can't think of any player who's done it and then come back and got into the team.

I think it's bad for his Liverpool career that he's been deemed not good enough to play. The loan itself is not a problem, it's merely a byproduct of the problem.

So the loan is confirmation of something we already knew, but it is at least an opportunity for him to make a splash and earn his spot in the squad.

What's somewhat interesting in this instance from his POV is that there's likely to be a bit of churn over the next window or two, with a few players moving on. So at least there likely is a spot there for him to earn. Just up to him from here. Over the next few months he needs to show he's LFC standard.

McFly85

Hope it works out well for Minamino, there’s definitely a player there and I’m happy to see him go to a club that will suit his abilities.

I think that could be it for his Liverpool career, though. Not because he isn’t good enough, but the club will be looking to raise funds, and he’s probably one of the easiest ways to do it considering how cheap he was.

Blanco100

The club are cutting their losses on Taki. Hoping a good loan spell will drive up his price. Already budgeting for next summer.

Utopia Parkway

Matip out for the season. No wonder they went and got 2 CB's.

yourdeadwright

Taki, Origi and Shaqs will go for good in the summer
Elliott and Mbappe will replace them

retalivity

Probably why he hasnt been getting any game time - make sure hes not injured as they try to shift him on

TitianGerm

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I think it's bad for his Liverpool career that he's been deemed not good enough to play. The loan itself is not a problem, it's merely a byproduct of the problem.

So the loan is confirmation of something we already knew, but it is at least an opportunity for him to make a splash and earn his spot in the squad.

What's somewhat interesting in this instance from his POV is that there's likely to be a bit of churn over the next window or two, with a few players moving on. So at least there likely is a spot there for him to earn. Just up to him from here. Over the next few months he needs to show he's LFC standard.

Maybe he's struggling to settle in Liverpool. Have Southampton got any players who may have played with Minamino before?

Agent Coulson

The club were never going to lose money on Minamino the bought him for 7m and could have sold him the next day for three times that.

~Rebel~

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Matip out for the season. No wonder they went and got 2 CB's.

Christ... someone's out there doing absolute wreck with a few voodoo dolls dressed in red kits!

Utopia Parkway

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1356366808324984840

yourdeadwright

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1356366808324984840

Diaster

Agent Coulson

All 3 CB back out for a season.

That's mental.

Riesen_Meal

It's used to be bad news Pearce, it's now bad news Joyce...

*Sigh*

GBX

GBX wrote: »

So far so good. Thank f*** we scored a few. Just hope they get defensively cover in in loan now just to keep us tidy.

Fair play to Micky Edwards and Jürgen Klopp. They really do things right. We've no excuses now at the back. Midfield can get Hendo back. Hopefully push on a bit more starting with Brighton and fingers crossed City at the weekend.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Agreement in principle agreed for a 6 month loan for Minamino.

He is doing a medical now.

Hope he realises he's nor wearing a kimono this time !

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Agent Coulson wrote: »

All 3 CB back out for a season.

That's mental.

Ah shur, some people would have you believe that this is normal and you should be winning the league at a canter regardless.

cj maxx

So Matip out for the season. Typical:(

~Rebel~

TitianGerm wrote: »

Maybe he's struggling to settle in Liverpool. Have Southampton got any players who may have played with Minamino before?

I don't think so, but what is somewhat interesting is Ralph Hasenhuttl himself having managed RB Leipzig for a few years Taki was with RB Salzburg. There's a lot of crossover between the two clubs, so I'd imagine he was very much up to speed always on Taki's development and ability.

Utopia Parkway

Losing your top 3 centre backs to season ending injuries is a bit...unfortunate. And rare. I can't ever remember it happening to anyone but maybe it has somewhere?

Fromvert

Ah jesus Matip done for the season is a killer. I was hoping these two signings would allow us to just concentrate on getting him onto the pitch for the CL second leg and any other CL games.

Hopefully one of these lads hit the ground running! Delighted we did some business, two signings should have pointed towards Matip being done but I was being too optimistic.

~Rebel~

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Losing your top 3 centre backs to season ending injuries is a bit...unfortunate. And rare. I can't ever remember it happening to anyone but maybe it has somewhere?

It's so fuckin weird!

Like, you're unlucky to be missing all the players in a position just for a week or two - but the whole fuckin' lot of 'em for the whole remaining season. Insane.

Lot of pressure on the new lads to hit the ground running now.

Vicxas

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Losing your top 3 centre backs to season ending injuries is a bit...unfortunate. And rare. I can't ever remember it happening to anyone but maybe it has somewhere?

Its happened before

Agent Coulson

So Fab and Hendo for the City game or does Kabak get thrown into the deep end.

Fitz*

By the end of the season, the amount of times that the centre backs played 90 mins in the league

VVD: 4
Gomez: 5
Matip: 6

Matip & VVD played 11 minutes together in the entire season.

54and56

cj maxx wrote: »

So Matip out for the season. Typical:(

Clever of the club to keep that info well under wraps until the CB transfers were done.

mightyreds

Madalynn Dazzling Gurney wrote: »

Ah shur, some people would have you believe that this is normal and you should be winning the league at a canter regardless.

Klopp should also have seen it coming, sign of a bad manager... Are Klopp and liverpool done

Knex*

Did we need to let Taki go in order to register Kabak?

Think I read before that we had used the full foreign player allotment.