Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

Agent Coulson

So the club know who they want however it just seems they can't get them in January, I'm ok with that as they have players they want.

I would say the two RB Germany CB's are the major targets and they were never going to sell now especially when they drew us in the CL.

Klopp just needs to play Matip with Fab when he is fit and when he is isn't he needs to play William's or Phillips not Hendo or Gini.

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1347095181846319106?s=20

MD1990

Im not sure how Ben White would be one of our top targets & certaintly not someone you wait for the summer for.

Dont think he has been great at Brighton at all & not even played CB in a two at all. Played RB & in midfield alot.

Konsa at Villa for instance is far better
Not so good waiting for a CB in the summer if we are in Europa next season. Which is unlikely but Matip will be out for majority of the season most likely.

jebidiah

Signing one of our summer CB targets in January is hardly going to be an open and shut deal. If its a main target they are likely a key player for another team, possibly one of our competitors in the league or the CL. I would be hopeful that if we cannot get a club to part ways with a key CB now, that we will look to sign an experienced player like Matip/Klavan who can fill a gap for the remainder of the season.

1800-LOV-ERN anyone?

Fitz*

While I'd gladly like someone of Lovren's ability to come in for the 6 months, you just cannot trust him to stay fit. He seemed to always get injured when he was needed the most!

atilladehun

atilladehun wrote: »

Keita and ox's contracts are up in 2023, that and their injury records definitely puts their position in question.

Keita is 26 in a few weeks, we paid £53m for him, he joined in July 18 ...... can't see us looking to sell him really.

Ox is now 27, if the club could get £20m for him he'll likely be sold IMO but I reckon he'll see out his contract tbh.

With Henderson getting on a bit (and Milner 35 now) it's not just CB that might need investment over the next few transfer windows, it's a shame Ox and Keita have the injury doubts etc but at any one time if one of them was fit and available it would be a huge help.

jebidiah

jebidiah wrote: »

...........an experienced player like Matip/Klavan who can fill a gap for the remainder of the season.

1800-LOV-ERN anyone?

It's a VVD gap though, huge ask for anyone, fair play to Fabinho for stepping up. Lovren wouldn't have the mental strength for it. He might do more harm than good if he was still here with the clangers and brainfarts he was prone to.

TitianGerm

Fitz* wrote: »

While I'd gladly like someone of Lovren's ability to come in for the 6 months, you just cannot trust him to stay fit. He seemed to always get injured when he was needed the most!

He's not missed a game for Zenith so far I think.

Agent Coulson

Caulker is available for about £2m after having a pretty successful couple of years in Turkey his contract runs out in the summer.

Blanco100

All well and good not signing a CB as it's financially responsible.

Financial responsibility seems to be the main aim as opposed to retaining our title.

F*cking hate seeing such crap about financial prudence like it's some kind of positive in this instance to be celebrated.

If you need to pay and extra 10 or 15million to sign your summer target now just bloody do it.

No doubt come summer time it won't be a RB Leipzig CB (Who is supposedly impossible now) it will be someone for 10million who will leave us wondering how the hell was it impossible to sign this guy last January.

If we miss out on the league it's poor form. We had so few months to plan knowing we would be without VVD and Joe Gomez. Complete bang of sell to buy about our club. No doubt the real reason is there are no longer any mugs out there to pay 20 or 30 million for the likes of Origi and Shaqiri.

No other major club would go through January so threadbare at the back, just wouldn't happen.

yourdeadwright

If we want to be financial responsible that fair enough but surely we could get someone in on loan who is better than Phillips or Williams ,
Plenty of CC's around Europe not starting games or wanted that are miles ahead of them two

ballyargus

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Caulker is available for about £2m after having a pretty successful couple of years in Turkey his contract runs out in the summer.

Internationally he has a 100% scoring record

rob316

Bring back Raggy

Fitz*

It's negligence more than a gamble to not bring in a CB this window.

I can understand the wanting to make sure you buying the right player, instead of any player, as the repercussions can be high. But surely with 3 CBs out and the opening to bring in a CB now, you take that opportunity. The recruitment team must have had players in mind for the summer, so move early. Pay the extra 5m-10m if needs be. Fluffing around hoping that Matip, and Fabinho, stays fit is going to end in hurt IMO.

Fair enough maybe the CBs at Leipzig were in mind and now they are unattainable because of the CL draw but Liverpool have often moved onto their second target and that has worked out fine (Salah, Mane, Jota for example).

The only viewpoint on the other side of the argument I can see is that they view the number 1 target as the target and want to wait for him, as he will be a gamechanger. Just like they waited for VVD. And he was a gamechanger, in more ways than one.

dogbert27

They're hoping Matip will be back for the United game.

The Big Easy

Surely you could arrange a six month loan for a decent centre-back. Someone like Diego Godin from Cagliari or Umtiti from Barca.

Your standing in world football couldn't be any higher than currently, so you would imagine many experienced players would bite on a short-term deal?

Iused2likebusts

We were actually comfortable at the back the other night with henderson and fabinho there gave up hardly any chances. The problem is we miss both of them in the middle. Maybe in a couple of weeks with thiago up to speed and keita/ox up to speed. A midfield 3 of gini, thiago and keita will give us a functioning midfield. Phillips and Williams are nowhere near the level to play PL games.

dogbert27

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

We were actually comfortable at the back the other night with henderson and fabinho there gave up hardly any chances. The problem is we miss both of them in the middle. Maybe in a couple of weeks with thiago up to speed and keita/ox up to speed. A midfield 3 of gini, thiago and keita will give us a functioning midfield.Phillips and Williams are nowhere near the level to play PL games.

They already have played and were in winning teams.

As you said we were comfortable due to Southampton scoring early and playing a containment game for 88 minutes afterwards.

One of the two youngsters would have been better and have Henderson in midfield instead of Ox. Plus with Henderson on the right of midfield he would have given TAA a lot more help

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1347128343628451842

Bowlardo

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

We were actually comfortable at the back the other night with henderson and fabinho there gave up hardly any chances. The problem is we miss both of them in the middle. Maybe in a couple of weeks with thiago up to speed and keita/ox up to speed. A midfield 3 of gini, thiago and keita will give us a functioning midfield. Phillips and Williams are nowhere near the level to play PL games.

Yes but Wes re loosing our two best midfielders because the had to move out of position. We are the best team in the world and are implementing Sunday league tactics.
It is embarrassing

Iused2likebusts

The two young lads can't or don't have the confidence to pass the ball to anyone bar fabinho. They are also incredibly slow.

dogbert27

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

The two young lads can't or don't have the confidence to pass the ball to anyone bar fabinho. They are also incredibly slow.

Rhys Williams played in the win against Spurs. He sprayed a ball out left to Robertson which was similar to how VVD passes balls from deep which started the build up to Salah's goal.

Phillips played in the win against West Ham.

Either one of the could have played Monday night and have Henderson in midfield instead of starting with 2 midfielders coming back from injury.

jebidiah

Deleted User wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1347128343628451842

My favorite thing about that is Stevies initial reaction, freaked he didn't get a pass!

Utopia Parkway

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So the club know who they want however it just seems they can't get them in January, I'm ok with that as they have players they want.

I would say the two RB Germany CB's are the major targets and they were never going to sell now especially when they drew us in the CL.

Klopp just needs to play Matip with Fab when he is fit and when he is isn't he needs to play William's or Phillips not Hendo or Gini.

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1347095181846319106?s=20

The financially irresponsible part won't look so good if Matip gets injured again (and we all know how likely that is) and Liverpool's CL spot is under threat. Let alone the title.

Utopia Parkway

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1347175405845946369

Agent Coulson

Jota still wearing a Knee brace so he is weeks away from returning to training.

Agent Coulson

Klopp reveals TAA had Covid

TitianGerm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Klopp reveals TAA had Covid

Did he not say that a few weeks ago?

ballyargus

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Klopp reveals TAA had Covid

really?

atilladehun

Augeo wrote: »

Keita is 26 in a few weeks, we paid £53m for him, he joined in July 18 ...... can't see us looking to sell him really.

Don't know how we are for money but the club usually at least try to offset buys with some income. He's made 50 appearances from 136.

He's great, I'm a massive fan. If he plays he makes us better usually. If he came back from this injury, his 3rd this season (I think), and stayed fit I will have a different view in the summer. If he continues to be absent at the rate he is now then we have to move on.

It's not his fault, it's not anybody's.

I agree with the rest. I think the next CB has to be bought knowing matip is unreliable and vvd and Gomez may never be the same again. Can't be a 4th choice. If that's not available now if take a loan.

Agent Coulson

TitianGerm wrote: »

Did he not say that a few weeks ago?

It's the first I heard it stated publicly.

I'm guessing it was during pre season when he missed it.

Iused2likebusts

Villas training ground shut down. Assume tomorrows game will be off.

Osmosis Jones

Yeah surely no chance we play tomorrow

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1347190364281712644?s=20

TitianGerm

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Yeah surely no chance we play tomorrow

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1347190364281712644?s=20

Let both teams field the U-18s.

yourdeadwright

Derby are being forced to play there under 23s and under 18's surely same rule for Villa ?

giveitholly

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Derby are being forced to play there under 23s and under 18's surely same rule for Villa ?

Could covid be in the u23s and u18s squad as well?

Fitz*

If Villa u23 & u18s train separately, then let them play. Last thing I want is a postponed fixture to have to fit in.

Villa were happy enough to have to play Liverpool u18s last year in the cup as Liverpool first team had 2 games in 2 days on 2 different continents.

I think Derby are playing their youth team in their cup game.

yourdeadwright

giveitholly wrote: »

Could covid be in the u23s and u18s squad as well?

ye that true but you'd imagine they don't train together that was the case at Derby

Thanx 4 The Fish

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Derby are being forced to play there under 23s and under 18's surely same rule for Villa ?

I know several of my sons mates who are U18s and 23s at Derby are not allowed to train on site, they are doing online training and fitness etc. Surprised if they are in any state to play.

citytillidie

Play the youth team or it should be a walk over :pac:

Fitz*

Villa already have 2 postponed games to play as it is. There are not many other slots to play this game because FA Cup rd 4 is so soon, and Liverpool play in Europe so most midweeks are taken up.

TitianGerm

Fitz* wrote: »

Villa already have 2 postponed games to play as it is. There are not many other slots to play this game because FA Cup rd 4 is so soon, and Liverpool play in Europe so most midweeks are taken up.

CL isn't back until middle of February.

yourdeadwright

I forgot about last season's Carling cup ,
Pay back for Villa so play your kids like we did

~Rebel~

TitianGerm wrote: »

Did he not say that a few weeks ago?

Yeah, Klopp said that a bit over a month ago;

https://www.football365.com/news/klopp-lets-slip-alexander-arnold-test-covid

“We had a short pre-season and then all of a sudden, Trent is out with Covid, and he has to play early and he was not in the best shape in that moment. That can happen to all players.”

There had been some discussion on here if that had been part of his drop in form, but I suppose its hard to pin his present form on it so many months later, when he's also been out for an injury in the interim.

Still, Covid can really hit your concentration. I found that to be a fairly prominent problem for around 6 weeks after infection, but I believe it can be a longer term problem for some people.

citytillidie

TitianGerm wrote: »

CL isn't back until middle of February.

Only free mid weeks would be next week so if they can't play tomorrow is there a chance to play midweek? Other free mid week is in feb which is after the 4th round is scheduled to be played

giveitholly

citytillidie wrote: »

Only free mid weeks would be next week so if they can't play tomorrow is there a chance to play midweek? Other free mid week is in feb which is after the 4th round is scheduled to be played

Villa have a league game midweek

TitianGerm

citytillidie wrote: »

Only free mid weeks would be next week so if they can't play tomorrow is there a chance to play midweek? Other free mid week is in feb which is after the 4th round is scheduled to be played

Villa are playing Spurs on Wednesday next week. If the outbreak is bad then that could be a doubt as well.

Fitz*

Man City played the system a couple weeks back and got a few days rest after their training ground got closed for 1 day. It done them the world of good as the looked so much fresher against Chelsea.

I'm not saying that Villa are doing the same, but the thought is in this big cynical head of mine!

RugbyLover123

Are we thinking it’ll be a fairly strong line up tomorrow since we don’t play again until the following Sunday?

Kelleher
Williams Phillips Fab Robbo
Milner Hendo Jones
Ox Mini Shaq

Something like that maybe? I think he may even see Thiago start to get him up to speed.

facehugger99

As long as they can field 14 players, including youth team players, then fixture has to go ahead AFAIK.

giveitholly

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Are we thinking it’ll be a fairly strong line up tomorrow since we don’t play again until the following Sunday?

Kelleher
Williams Phillips Fab Robbo
Milner Hendo Jones
Ox Mini Shaq

Something like that maybe? I think he may even see Thiago start to get him up to speed.

Can't see Hendo,Fab or Robbo starting but the rest of that team should be starting