Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

Rhys Williams' touch is also so heavy it's unreal. He gets a ball passed to him with no one near him and the touch leaves the ball 5ft in front of him. His pace is terrible but his touch is worse.

Bloc Party!

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

How many more performances like this before "This wouldn't be happening if Henderson was on the pitch" is finally proven to be nonsense?

To be fair I don’t think Henderson Is the reason why we’re losing??

Dcully

jayo26 wrote: »

I just seen the score and assumed liverpool had put out a team of kids too... Changes or a good kick up the behind needed at half time id say.

Needed that kick a few months now to be fair,very one dimensional and the famous intensity gone a long time now.

Ottoman_1000

Not to sound dramatic but this team will do well to finish in the top 4 never mind challenge for the title. something is very wrong behind the scenes. Klopp has definitely not been himself lately and it seems to be now rubbing off on the players. I'm not even expecting a reaction from them in the 2nd half.

Osmosis Jones

Bloc Party! wrote: »

To be fair I don’t think Henderson Is the reason why we’re losing??

He's not but every single time we play like this without him the response is nothing but people saying these performances don't happen with Henderson playing. He's not some magic talisman that stops lethargic performances.

martyos121

Tusky wrote: »

I’ve said it before, but Williams is the slowest player I’ve ever seen. For that reason alone I don’t think he’s PL quality.

He’d be fine as a squad player in a low-block Allardyce or Dyche team, but he’s not cut out for Liverpool and playing in a high line.

~Rebel~

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Twice in that final sequence someone played a ball to Wijnaldum and made a run into the box for the first touch 1-2, and both times Gini took a touch, waited, then turned around and passed it backwards to Henderson.

Far too much of that sort of stuff alright. You look at City's resurgence of late, and that's the difference. A quicker tempo, first time passes cutting through defences that can't react in time. We're so ponderous of late, taking so much out of the ball and giving the opposition time to plug gaps and track runs.

Ardent

Salah is really annoying me lately. I can accept him being utterly sh*t at the moment but not passing to Mane who was in a great position earlier is typical - greedy git.

dogbert27

Bloc Party! wrote: »

To be fair I don’t think Henderson Is the reason why we’re losing??

Are you from the future? Are we losing now?

yourdeadwright

We need to buy a CB or Two ASAP
We need something to give life to the whole team get a CB in and Fabhino back into midfeild and mentally player will feel more confident

Osmosis Jones

Ardent wrote: »

Salah is really annoying me lately. I can accept him being utterly sh*t at the moment but not passing to Mane who was in a great position earlier is typical - greedy git.

Am I losing my mind? The past few weeks have been nothing but "STOP TRYING TO WALK IT IN AND JUST SHOOT!!" and then Salah gets off one good shot from inside the box that forces a tough save from the keeper and we're back to "he should have passed"

martyos121

Ardent wrote: »

Salah is really annoying me lately. I can accept him being utterly sh*t at the moment but not passing to Mane who was in a great position earlier is typical - greedy git.

That’s always been Salah though, it’s a trade-off you have to accept for a player as goal-hungry and ruthless as him.

But yeah, it’s annoying as f**k to watch sometimes.

Potential Underachiever

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

He's not but every single time we play like this without him the response is nothing but people saying these performances don't happen with Henderson playing. He's not some magic talisman that stops lethargic performances.

OK, you've made your point, and hammered it home a few times at this stage, you win.

kingshankly

Cartman78 wrote: »

If Mane and Salah can get their groove back then this will be worthwhile.

Otherwise it's just a glorified training session

You think 😂

Iused2likebusts

People used to think the likes of mig and karius didnt hold us back too much until they seen what a proper goalkeeper can do. It's the exact same with Williams and Phillips as CBs we don't stand a chance this season if they have to play games.

Tusky

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Despite the goal Mane's form this season has dropped off a cliff.

He’s probably been the best of our front 3 recently.

Fitz*

If Salah gets a chance to shoot from that area of the penalty box, I generally want him to shoot because he will score a lot. It's why he does score so much.

~Rebel~

Klopp's head in hands reaction to the goal sums the half up really.

Would expect a response second half and a big increase in passing tempo, but it shouldn't require a half time bollocking to do that.

Agent Coulson

Fab is so badly missed in midfield.

DJIMI TRARORE

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

banie01

That Villa goal was very reminiscent of peak Owen IMO.

The centre backs should have dealt with it better, Williams in particular.
Can't see the villa kids holding us back for the entire 2nd half, can we?

Salah needs to gee up his decision making too.

Osmosis Jones

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

No and I think "lost the dressing room" is a complete nonsense tabloid phrase that means basically nothing, especially in regards to a man who has taken this dressing room to the highest peak of football over the past 3 years.

willabur

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

No

dogbert27

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

No.

Tusky

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

Come on - don’t be silly. Let’s not get carried away. It’s a rut for sure, amid an injury crisis. But we’re still top of the league and sailed through the Champions League group stages.

martyos121

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

Not sure whether to ridicule this post or report it.

Ikozma

Even youth team managers have klopp sussed, this is embarrassing to the shirt

dogbert27

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

If anyone in the dressing room feels lost under Klopp they can fxxk off somewhere else

Osmosis Jones

The midfield 3 need to be able to pass it quicker on the edge of the box, not just play it to the open fullback on the wing for a cross, they need to take some initiative.

EDIT: Thiago coming on, if anyone can do it...

DJIMI TRARORE

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

4 games ago we hammered Palace 7-0. Unless Klopp was giving out black eyes for sport then it's nonsense saying he lost the dressing room. This is a bad slump in form. First we've had in nearly 2 and a half years. Was bound to happen eventually.

ShamoBuc

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

:pac:

~Rebel~

Ikozma wrote: »

Even youth team managers have klopp sussed, this is embarrassing to the shirt

I don't think opposition teams are doing anything to stop Liverpool, Liverpool just aren't doing what they did before. The defining characteristics of this team over the past few seasons are intensity, tenacity, and ruthlessness in the final third. That's what we've been missing. That cutting edge is missing, the lads just aren't making the quick runs and 1-2 moves. Instead you see most players getting the ball around the box taking at least 3 touches.

Southampton was a huge example of this - the first half especially. They out-Liverpool'd Liverpool. Out ran and out-passed a team built on those principles.

razorblunt

They look lost even in the tunnel. What was that about?

Osmosis Jones

Thiago as the lone defensive midfielder again though, prefer him to have some cover there so he can push up a little.

Zak Flaps

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Fab is so badly missed in midfield.

They said that about Henderson!!

SM01

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Anybody think klopp has lost the dressing room, the performances r getting worse by the game

No.

The team is fcuked cause part of the spine has been ripped out with VVD and Gomez gone, and Fab played out of position. That defensive base that gave so much stability, confidence, on-field leadership and passing range is no longer there. Add poor form into the mix and you get what we're witnessing on the pitch unfortunately.

DJIMI TRARORE

I take that as a no so😊

kingshankly

This could be one of the biggest upsets of all time Liverpool were 1/100 to win this match

razorblunt

SM01 wrote: »

No.

The team is fcuked cause part of the spine has been ripped out with VVD and Gomez gone, and Fab played out of position. That defensive base that gave so much stability, confidence, on-field leadership and passing range is no longer there. Add poor form into the mix and you get what we're witnessing on the pitch unfortunately.

Gomez? Spine? He’s been an embarrassment since last March before his injury.

Thiago will carve this lot open and send their innards through their letterboxes.

jayo26

Dcully wrote: »

Needed that kick a few months now to be fair,very one dimensional and the famous intensity gone a long time now.

Probably go through a good spell in second half and batter the kids now. Poor kids.

Salah doesn't look happy at all lately i doubt pool would complain about a few weeks circuit breaker.

razorblunt

razorblunt wrote: »

Gomez? Spine? He’s been an embarrassment since last March before his injury.

Jesus what an embarrassing take.

dogbert27

kingshankly wrote: »

This could be one of the biggest upsets of all time Liverpool were 1/100 to win this match

The second half has just started and its 1-1.

You're comment would be apt if it was the 90th minute and we were 4-1 down

razorblunt

Gomez has been awful since that Man City game.

retalivity

Get fab off the pitch for phillips ffs

SM01

razorblunt wrote: »

Gomez? Spine? He’s been an embarrassment since last March before his injury.

An embarrassment? What a ridiculous overstatement. Gomez would improve this defense considerably.

jayo26

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thiago will carve this lot open and send their innards through their letterboxes.

He would want to he is meant to be one of the best midfielders in the world playing agaisnt a bunch of kids.

Fromvert

It's like the team has gotten so used to having possession, along with being worried about running out of steam in a congested season that they have gradually slowed down their tempo so much that they're struggling to up it when they need to. You play a certain way constantly it becomes who you are.

All so predictable and slow, easy to play against and now that we're shaky at the back it's even more difficult as one goal isn't enough to win games. The squad players actually getting time could be the answer to shake it up a bit.

jayo26

jayo26 wrote: »

He would want to he is meant to be one of the best midfielders in the world playing agaisnt a bunch of kids.

Good to see a fellow neutral enjoying the game :pac:

~Rebel~

Klopp seemingly sitting in TWO seats marked "Do Not Use" at the same time :P