Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

martyos121

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Yeah, underage lads can switch back and forth. Look at someone like Dan Crowley who played;
England U 16
Ireland U 16
England U 17
Ireland U 17
England U 19

And has since said he'd like to play senior for Ireland.

Barry himself started with England U 15, then switched to Ireland 15's and 16's, and then back to England 16's and 17's.

I know, realistically, he's probably gonna stay with England if he has half a chance of making it with them, but sure we can dream!

The same lad moved from Barcelona to Birmingham. He can’t be that fussy when it comes to internationals. :pac:

Demosthenese

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Can he switch back?

He has already switched from Ireland to England.

Would say fair play to him for scoring - sportsmanship etc - but **** the Barca reject **** after switching to England. Hope the never gets another cap and Fabinhos shirt smells of ****e.

:D:D

~Rebel~

brevity wrote: »

Would they have played together at Bayern?

Great shout - spent a few years together at Bayern alright.

brevity

brevity wrote: »

Would they have played together at Bayern?

Yep.

Ikozma

All well and good thiago doing all his passing and tricks against a team of 17yr olds, let's see can he do it against urd in 9 days time

martyos121

Great interview from the lad there, the media training will turn him into a bore like every other professional footballer but you love to see that genuine sort of interview.

Osmosis Jones

Ikozma wrote: »

All well and good thiago doing all his passing and tricks against a team of 17yr olds, let's see can he do it against urd in 9 days time

He's done it for years against the best teams in the world at both club and international level, it's not like this is his first performance

Ikozma

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

He's done it for years against the best teams in the world at both club and international level, it's not like this is his first performance

Yea but he hasn't done it for us yet has he, I'll be waiting till he plays a few games for us before I declare him the dogs b****x

happyoutscan

Ikozma wrote: »

Yea but he hasn't done it for us yet has he, I'll be waiting till he plays a few games for us before I declare him the dogs b****x

He's a proven dogs bollix and will do it for us.

Osmosis Jones

He's spent the majority of the season injured or infected but has shone pretty much any time he's played so far, he broke records against Chelsea and was great against Everton, including doing this after suffering an injury that would put him out of commission for over 2 months.

Shanee.

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

He's spent the majority of the season injured or infected but has shone pretty much any time he's played so far, he broke records against Chelsea and was great against Everton, including doing this after suffering an injury that would put him out of commission for over 2 months.

Joke that didnt count

Fitz*

Am I the only one annoyed at the result purely cos of the first half performance?

I think the goals only came in the second half because the Villa kids legs tired, moreso than through good Liverpool play. Yes, Thiago & Shaqiri had some good play but as a whole, the team flattered to deceive IMO. Not in a good place pre biggest game of the season. I didn't listen to Klopp afterwards but even Milner seemed a bit off. Maybe the players know it too.

yourdeadwright

Fitz* wrote: »

Am I the only one annoyed at the result purely cos of the first half performance?

I think the goals only came in the second half because the Villa kids legs tired, moreso than through good Liverpool play. Yes, Thiago & Shaqiri had some good play but as a whole, the team flattered to deceive IMO. Not in a good place pre biggest game of the season. I didn't listen to Klopp afterwards but even Milner seemed a bit off. Maybe the players know it too.

Midfield was awful again,
Jones isnt good enough YET for us,

Thaigo and Shaq looked good by simply not passing the ball side ways every time they got it,

Our midfeild has become too obsessed with keeping the ball and not giving it away, This makes them take an extra touch and take 2 extra secnds to look for the easiest pass but whats added to this os they aren't making runs because they are scared if they lose it our back line will be got at, Its football with the handbrake on

The two lads came on and started popping it around quicker bit also shifting there own position,

Our movement lately has been horrific, its been two robotic andnot fluid, Thigo and Keita will help massively with that, also Jota started so well because he makes different runs not just the same ones over and over

Bowlardo

razorblunt wrote: »

That Mane header is still not getting the credit it deserves from comms.

He is amazing in the air.

Fitz*

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Midfield was awful again,
Jones isnt good enough YET for us,

Thaigo and Shaq looked good by simply not passing the ball side ways every time they got it,

Our midfeild has become too obsessed with keeping the ball and not giving it away, This makes them take an extra touch and take 2 extra secnds to look for the easiest pass but whats added to this os they aren't making runs because they are scared if they lose it our back line will be got at, Its football with the handbrake on

The two lads came on and started popping it around quicker bit also shifting there own position,

Our movement lately has been horrific, its been two robotic andnot fluid, Thigo and Keita will help massively with that, also Jota started so well because he makes different runs not just the same ones over and over

Totally agree. The midfield and the quick play is a big worry now.

Everything just seems so slower, an extra touch, and extra feint all over the midfield and attack. Players are taking the easy option of passing backwards too often.

As you said, hopefully with Thiago and a returning Keita that this can bring back some of the quickness in play. We can't really rely on Keita a whole lot so maybe Shaqiri is the man that can come in.


I remember reading before about a player like Shaqiri, can't remember who it was (actually could have been Shaqiri himself!) but basically while he is fit, just use him as much as we can and get the best out of him while he is fit. He'll eventually break down again so get those 6 performances out of him while he is available. He can unlock defences.

ratracer

So a midfield of Hendo, Thiago, Shaq for the Utd game? After our last three/ four games, i’d give it a go!

giveitholly

ratracer wrote: »

So a midfield of Hendo, Thiago, Shaq for the Utd game? After our last three/ four games, i’d give it a go!

Will prob be Gini instead of Shaq

Osmosis Jones

ratracer wrote: »

So a midfield of Hendo, Thiago, Shaq for the Utd game? After our last three/ four games, i’d give it a go!

For that particular game I'd still play Gini over Shaq, we need someone hassling Bruno at all time.

BorneTobyWilde

Diego Lainez has potential, in Klopps hands. Could be next Salah.

Fitz*

Would not be surprised if it's Hendo & Fabinho at CB and then Gini, Thiago and one of Keita/Shaqiri in midfield.

RugbyLover123

Fitz* wrote: »

Would not be surprised if it's Hendo & Fabinho at CB and then Gini, Thiago and one of Keita/Shaqiri in midfield.

Yeah I can’t see Williams starting for us again in the PL. He was badly shown up tonight against an academy lad from Villa. I can only imagine what Rashford would make of him. Phillips hasn’t started against any team with pace up front either, which United have.

It’ll be Henderson and Fab at the back if Matip isn’t back.

Potential Underachiever

Shudder

#prayformatip

Tusky

I cannot wait to see more of Thiago - he is a joy to watch.

Osmosis Jones

Forgot to mention it early but even more so than Thiago and Shaq it really feels like Salah and Shaq have a good connection going

Enzokk

Fitz* wrote: »

Am I the only one annoyed at the result purely cos of the first half performance?

I think the goals only came in the second half because the Villa kids legs tired, moreso than through good Liverpool play. Yes, Thiago & Shaqiri had some good play but as a whole, the team flattered to deceive IMO. Not in a good place pre biggest game of the season. I didn't listen to Klopp afterwards but even Milner seemed a bit off. Maybe the players know it too.

And their legs were tired because they were not fit or because they were chasing us the whole match? We were playing against kids, no result would have been good. If we had won 10-0 it would have only been the kids. If we battered them and it wasn't 10-0 only because of their keeper having a good match then our performance wasn't good. If it was only 2-0 or 3-0 but a scrappy result, well I think your post is the reaction.

What result would have satisfied you last night in preparation for United?

marklazarcovic

oh how spoiled some of us have become,sickening to me.

we prayed for a miracle for decades,so many lows,false dawns. now we have the best coaches,manager,owners,one of the best teams in the world.


whinge whinge whinge when things arent perfect,and rivals can have a pop. shamefull.

Iused2likebusts

Hopefully henderson off at half time was a planned substitution because if Matip isnt ready he has to play CB.

Grayditch

I thought Nico put it a few nice crosses last night.

BillyHasMates

marklazarcovic wrote: »

oh how spoiled some of us have become,sickening to me.

we prayed for a miracle for decades,so many lows,false dawns. now we have the best coaches,manager,owners,one of the best teams in the world.


whinge whinge whinge when things arent perfect,and rivals can have a pop. shamefull.

A tad over dramatic. It's a discussion forum and as fans are well entitled to put forward our thoughts on the team. Our performances and results have been very mixed this season and it's natural for fans to try and understand why and work out solutions through discussion with other fans. That's all I see here. We are not exactly at the stage of calling for the managers head or demanding players never play again and are sold. Can't keep the discussion about injuries, luck or officiating all of the time.

jebidiah

Grayditch wrote: »

I thought Nico put it a few nice crosses last night.

Would it be mad to consider him at CB? Definitely has pace and a decent passer.

Riesen_Meal

The difference when Thiago came on last night, he has them ran ragged across the park, he has some eye for a pass that I don't think anyone else on the team has, his accuracy is unreal...

Girly Gal

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Hopefully henderson off at half time was a planned substitution because if Matip isnt ready he has to play CB.

If the plan is to play Henderson at CB against United, should he not have played there again last night, I know the opposition was significantly weakened, but, surely the more time Henderson and Fabinho play together at CB together the better it is, if that's the plan going forward. Someone else could easily have played in midfield instead of Henderson.
Also if Philips is not going to be involved as he hasn't been in the last two matches, despite our injury situation at CB, should he not be let go on loan or sold on as it's clear Klopp doesn't really fancy playing him and tends to go with Williams before him, even now he's only fourth choice behind Fabinho, Henderson and Williams. I'd imagine he feels hard done by too as he hasn't done much wrong when he has played.

Widdensushi

Girly Gal wrote: »

If the plan is to play Henderson at CB against United, should he not have played there again last night, I know the opposition was significantly weakened, but, surely the more time Henderson and Fabinho play together at CB together the better it is, if that's the plan going forward. Someone else could easily have played in midfield instead of Henderson.
Also if Philips is not going to be involved as he hasn't been in the last two matches, despite our injury situation at CB, should he not be let go on loan or sold on as it's clear Klopp doesn't really fancy playing him and tends to go with Williams before him, even now he's only fourth choice behind Fabinho, Henderson and Williams. I'd imagine he feels hard done by too as he hasn't done much wrong when he has played.

Getting rid of cb at the moment is not a good idea

Nerdlingr

Anyone think Minamino should get a run in the team? I've been impressed anytime ive seen him in his few appearances this season. Always busy, always looking for the ball, can create spaces for others with his runs in behind, ...for me any time I've watched him this year he's doing all the right things but maybe not getting the reward.

Vicxas

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Anyone think Minamino should get a run in the team? I've been impressed anytime ive seen him in his few appearances this season. Always busy, always looking for the ball, can create spaces for others with his runs in behind, ...for me any time I've watched him this year he's doing all the right things but maybe not getting the reward.

I've been dying for him to get a good run. There's no excuse now with Jota out

BillyHasMates

I've actually liked what I have seen of Shaqiri when brought on.

Girly Gal

Widdensushi wrote: »

Getting rid of cb at the moment is not a good idea

Personally I'd play him before Williams, but, if I was Philips and not really getting a look in then I'd be looking elsewhere. I also think that it's difficult for both Philips and Williams as they are not getting a run of games, even when Matip is injured Klopp has chopped and changed between the two and has even gone with Henderson instead of them, which really must fill them with confidence!
Also think that Minamino has been under used especially during our poor run of form recently when we needed something different, not saying he would have made a huge difference, but, he should at least have been brought on in a few games to see what he could do.

Potential Underachiever

Question was asked yesterday if Thiago and Shaq played together at Bayern, check out these young studs!

gimli2112

BillyHasMates wrote: »

A tad over dramatic. It's a discussion forum and as fans are well entitled to put forward our thoughts on the team. Our performances and results have been very mixed this season and it's natural for fans to try and understand why and work out solutions through discussion with other fans. That's all I see here. We are not exactly at the stage of calling for the managers head or demanding players never play again and are sold. Can't keep the discussion about injuries, luck or officiating all of the time.

I don't mind people having an opinion and most of, if not all of the complaining comes across as genuine, I do however reserve the right to whinge about the whingers.
People do overreact but it's not just Liverpool this happens with.

Blanco100

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Question was asked yesterday if Thiago and Shaq played together at Bayern, check out these young studs!

Shaq has more hair now than he did then ðŸ˜

Blanco100

Bobby Duncan part of the Derby under 23 side playing Chorley in FA Cup this afternoon.

Nice of him to grace them with his presence, thought he was set for stardom in Serie A with Fiorentina.

Blanco100

Blanco100 wrote: »

Bobby Duncan part of the Derby under 23 side playing Chorley in FA Cup this afternoon.

Nice of him to grace them with his presence, thought he was set for stardom in Serie A with Fiorentina.

One of the truly bizarre moves in memory.

It'd be something if he had been moving to the Fiorentina first team but he moved to their underage setup.

Potential Underachiever

Blanco100 wrote: »

Bobby Duncan part of the Derby under 23 side playing Chorley in FA Cup this afternoon.

Nice of him to grace them with his presence, thought he was set for stardom in Serie A with Fiorentina.

Chorley FM , coming in your ears.

Blanco100

[Deleted User] wrote: »

One of the truly bizarre moves in memory.

It'd be something if he had been moving to the Fiorentina first team but he moved to their underage setup.

And then to Derby's underage set up at 19/20 years of age.

Tusky

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Anyone think Minamino should get a run in the team? I've been impressed anytime ive seen him in his few appearances this season. Always busy, always looking for the ball, can create spaces for others with his runs in behind, ...for me any time I've watched him this year he's doing all the right things but maybe not getting the reward.

I haven’t been overly impressed with him at all. Always seems to play the easy ball, is very lightweight, and rarely tries to beat a man or do something unexpected. I’d have more hope for Shaq as an impact sub, once he can stay fit.

x43r0

I think I'll come to understand the mindset of MAGA supporters long before I manage to understand people who don't appreciate Thiago

Enzokk

Tusky wrote: »

I haven’t been overly impressed with him at all. Always seems to play the easy ball, is very lightweight, and rarely tries to beat a man or do something unexpected. I’d have more hope for Shaq as an impact sub, once he can stay fit.

Have you been looking at the runs he has been making? Those are the same runs that Firmino does but doesn't get credit for. He isn't as good as Firmino, but if you are looking at the match you will see he does create space for Salah and Mane.

He also did supply the assist for Gini last night.

davyboy1975

Enzokk wrote: »

Have you been looking at the runs he has been making? Those are the same runs that Firmino does but doesn't get credit for. He isn't as good as Firmino, but if you are looking at the match you will see he does create space for Salah and Mane.

He also did supply the assist for Gini last night.

Makes great runs and doesnt get the pass a lot of the timr unlike bobby, maybe its a trust thing at the minute with the rest of the team. Reckon if he played with thiago a lot more then we might see his influence grow

atilladehun

From a purely revisionist point of view maybe rotating bthe front three for the sake of it would have been the best option over Christmas.

While I'm not knocking Jota, he has benefitted from being the unknown quantity in the attack. The others have benefitted from having to work out playing with a new partner.

I'm just saying 60 mins from the start for Minamino in one game and 60 for Shaq in another, with possibly 30 mins in another. Purely for the mental stimulation. Make them do something different.

We're way off this but 13/14 was hampered by Rodgers not integrating aspas, Moses and to some extent Alberto who've all turned out to be decent. It is the first team managers responsibility to bring the fringe guys along because you'll need them in the later stages when games become win or bust. Learning to win with these guys in the team is important.

Osmosis Jones

davyboy1975 wrote: »

Makes great runs and doesnt get the pass a lot of the timr unlike bobby, maybe its a trust thing at the minute with the rest of the team. Reckon if he played with thiago a lot more then we might see his influence grow

Was just about to say the same about playing him with Thiago, he's the only midfielder we've got who constantly tries to pass it centrally, everyone else just sees an open fullback and takes the easy option.