Hundreds of Muslims gather to celebrate funeral of man who beheaded French teacher

splashuum

Very disrespectful on the French victim. Its arguable that the body of the terrorist shouldn't have been allowed to leave France. The large crowd at the funeral lauded the terrorist as a "lion of Islam"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9025443/Terrorist-beheaded-French-teacher-buried-Chechnya.html

endacl

They returned him to Chechnya? Were all the open landfill tipheads in France full? He could have fed a family of seagulls for a week.

Feisar

Massive trick missed here...

seamus

Large funerals for horrible murdering scumbags in their home town is not exactly a surprise.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/174E1/production/_113175459_bobby_storey_funeral50.jpg

https://world.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2013/04/1667961061.jpg

Gervais08

seamus wrote: »

Large funerals for horrible murdering scumbags in their home town is not exactly a surprise.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/174E1/production/_113175459_bobby_storey_funeral50.jpg

https://world.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2013/04/1667961061.jpg

Oh here we ****ing go - the defenders are here.

Baggly

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SexBobomb

seamus wrote: »

Large funerals for horrible murdering scumbags in their home town is not exactly a surprise.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/174E1/production/_113175459_bobby_storey_funeral50.jpg

https://world.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2013/04/1667961061.jpg

We know Seamus, No matter what anybody, anywhere does we must remember that we are much, much worse.

seamus

Gervais08 wrote: »

Oh here we ****ing go - the defenders are here.

Not defending anything.

Merely pointing out the old adage that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Sure, scenes in far-off countries where murderers are being honoured are disgusting, but we'd be lying to ourselves to think that we haven't done and don't do exactly the same thing. It just proves they're as human as we are.

So I'm not going to get myself worked up into a tizzy about it.

suicide_circus

Should have sent him to landfill

buried

seamus wrote: »

Merely pointing out the old adage that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

And what "freedoms" are the Islamic State fighting for, Shamie?

seamus

buried wrote: »

And what "freedoms" are the Islamic State fighting for, Shamie?

I don't give a fvck, they have some justification. There always is.

buried

seamus wrote: »

I don't give a fvck, they have some justification. There always is.

Yeah, the justification to crucify anybody who doesn't share their Abrahamic sand religion. That's some fight for 'freedom' man.

RWCNT

RandRuns wrote: »

In common with our own travellers, the "tiny minority" of muslims seems to amount to an awful lot of them.

Well yeah, there's what, a couple of billion odd Muslims in the world? Even 1% of that does amount to an awful lot.

I think seamus makes a valid if somewhat simplistic point, while also thinking anyone who condones this kind of brutality is an evil backwards scumbag. I'm not about to let it change my thinking on my neighbour or the guy who runs the shop I buy my fags from.

buried wrote: »

Yeah, the justification to crucify anybody who doesn't share their Abrahamic sand religion. That's some fight for 'freedom' man.

"Abrahamic sand religion". Laughed out loud at that. I'm gonna hit my Ma with that one when she gives out to me for not going to mass for Christmas.

jmayo

buried wrote: »

And what "freedoms" are the Islamic State fighting for, Shamie?

The only freedom ISIS, and indeed all the flavours of islamists, are fighting for is the freedom for you to die because you don't subscribe to and adhere to their cockamaimey world and skyfairy views.

AllForIt

One has to worry about the seemingly growing number of white people in our midst who on seeing any commentary related to any demographic that is not one's own that they will deem it to be racially motivated and respond accordingly.

I wonder if that happens in Muslim countries the other way around. Me things not.

I think we have an enemy within and they cause so much problems we could do without.

biko

Of course he got a nice funeral at home. There aren't any Chechens that oppose what he did.

Blondini

seamus wrote: »

Large funerals for horrible murdering scumbags in their home town is not exactly a surprise.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/174E1/production/_113175459_bobby_storey_funeral50.jpg

https://world.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2013/04/1667961061.jpg

Don't remember Maggie Thatcher cutting a man's head off like a fcuking savage in broad daylight in the middle of a city. Must have missed that one.

CtevenSrowder

biko wrote: »

Of course he got a nice funeral at home. There aren't any Chechens that oppose what he did.

That is a very bold claim to make without any evidence to back it up...

TomTomTim

Blondini wrote: »

Don't remember Maggie Thatcher cutting a man's head off like a fcuking savage in broad daylight in the middle of a city. Must have missed that one.

I thought it would be something to do with the IRA or something when I glanced at the post. That would of been bad enough, but comparing Thatcher to jihadists is pathetic, even for seamus. News lows are reached everyday in a desperate attempt to downplay barbarism.

Coillte_Bhoy

biko wrote: »

Of course he got a nice funeral at home. There aren't any Chechens that oppose what he did.

What an odd thing to say?

Anyway its the Daily Mail ffs, is 200 at a funeral a big turnout in Chechnya? Its not as if there are thousands lining the streets

weldoninhio

seamus wrote: »

I don't give a fvck, they have some justification. There always is.

Jesus, your posts are pathetic. Back up your argument. What “freedom” was the head hacker fighting for??

biko

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

That is a very bold claim to make without any evidence to back it up...

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What an odd thing to say?

Maybe you don't know what it's like there?
Chechnya is almost 100% Muslim, their president Ramzan Kadyrov is not only a devout Muslim but "Russia's number one Muslim".

Do you think they will oppose when a kafir (that's someone like you) disrespects Mohammad and gets a traditional Islamic punishment?

tdf7187

And little Leo V wants more of these types in our country.

bewareofthedog

During the Parsons green attack in 2017, Seamus made a post laughing at the hysterics of people running from the scene, and that the bag left on the train was probably someone's shopping explaining how everyone overreacts to such incidents and there's no real threat. It turned out be a bomb, after which he never posted on that thread again. Warms my heart to see he's still at it.

James Brown

RandRuns wrote: »

In common with our own travellers, the "tiny minority" of muslims seems to amount to an awful lot of them.

I believe there's 1.8 billion in all.

seamus

seamus wrote: »

Not defending anything.

You just did. More than once. Finding justifications is defending.

Merely pointing out the old adage that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Rubbish. That was in the days of when people were fighting various forms of oppression, and sought freedoms for their nation or particular group. What oppression or freedoms were they fighting against to cut the head off a civilian in a foreign country?

Go on.. I'd love to see you argue the freedom fighter angle on this one.. because I suspect you know that you don't have a leg to stand on.

Sure, scenes in far-off countries where murderers are being honoured are disgusting, but we'd be lying to ourselves to think that we haven't done and don't do exactly the same thing. It just proves they're as human as we are.

So I'm not going to get myself worked up into a tizzy about it.

When was the last time we (western nations) honored someone for beheading a civilian? Hell, a variety of western nations have brought up their soldiers on criminal charges for "barbaric" behavior abroad, which is far cry from what you're suggesting (imagine what we'd do to a civilian vigilante who decided to do the same). Nor, have I seen any suggestion of a western civilian population praising the behavior of soldiers in torturing or killing "the enemy" in brutal ways.

Perhaps you can enlighten me?

biko

biko wrote: »

Maybe you don't know what it's like there?
Chechnya is almost 100% Muslim, their president Ramzan Kadyrov is not only a devout Muslim but "Russia's number one Muslim".

Do you think they will oppose when a kafir (that's someone like you) disrespects Mohammad and gets a traditional Islamic punishment?

It doesn't matter... if even one Muslim might, possibly, maybe, even slightly is against what happened, then you can't talk about "Muslims" that way. You have to interject with qualifiers like "some", or "many", otherwise you're stepping across some imaginary line in the sand.

Coillte_Bhoy

biko wrote: »

Maybe you don't know what it's like there?
Chechnya is almost 100% Muslim, their president Ramzan Kadyrov is not only a devout Muslim but "Russia's number one Muslim".

Do you think they will oppose when a kafir (that's someone like you) disrespects Mohammad and gets a traditional Islamic punishment?

Yes i am somewhat aware of what the country is like and what a nasty piece of work Kadyrov is, is but that doesnt excuse your disgraceful wild generalization. There were 200 people at a funeral, hardly a mass outpouring of public support and according to other media reports quoting local officials, he was not buried with any 'special honours'

Coillte_Bhoy

Deleted User wrote: »

You just did. More than once. Finding justifications is defending.



Rubbish. That was in the days of when people were fighting various forms of oppression, and sought freedoms for their nation or particular group. What oppression or freedoms were they fighting against to cut the head off a civilian in a foreign country?

Go on.. I'd love to see you argue the freedom fighter angle on this one.. because I suspect you know that you don't have a leg to stand on.



When was the last time we (western nations) honored someone for beheading a civilian? Hell, a variety of western nations have brought up their soldiers on criminal charges for "barbaric" behavior abroad, which is far cry from what you're suggesting (imagine what we'd do to a civilian vigilante who decided to do the same). Nor, have I seen any suggestion of a western civilian population praising the behavior of soldiers in torturing or killing "the enemy" in brutal ways.

Perhaps you can enlighten me?

Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what nation honored someone for beheading a civilian?

Lux23

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/thousands-of-people-congregated-in-belfast-for-the-funeral-of-former-ira-man-1.4292668

Yea, you would never see anything like that happening here.

biko

biko wrote: »

Of course he got a nice funeral at home. There aren't any Chechens that oppose what he did.

biko wrote: »

Maybe you don't know what it's like there?
Chechnya is almost 100% Muslim, their president Ramzan Kadyrov is not only a devout Muslim but "Russia's number one Muslim".

Yes, almost. Not completely, but almost. So even you disagree with yourself.

DrumSteve

I actually had a big reply done up about how the comparisons between the RA and this little **** head are ridiculous but I cannot be bothered.

Coillte_Bhoy

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what nation honored someone for beheading a civilian?

Err.. why are you repeating my question back to me? You even bolded the whole question, including the ?. Weird.

jaxxx

The true measure of a being is their ability to answer a direct question with a direct answer and not deflect it with utter irrelevant and irrational nonsense -> to which this applies to quite a few individuals.. .. .. including politicians of course. In fact it's nearly a prerequisite for politicians.. ..

Terrorist or freedom fighter. Freedom fighters aren't blinded by a book.. ..

RandRuns

Bowie wrote: »

I believe there's 1.8 billion in all.

Top class googling.

Any estimate for the "tiny minority" that support the use of violence to spread islam, and/or the use of violence against those that insult the prophet?

The same lads that talk about the tiny minority usually go quiet when that question is asked.

biko

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, almost. Not completely, but almost. So even you disagree with yourself.

You seem to think that non-Muslim Chechens will disagree.

Ok, get one of the other Chechens to openly disagree with the beheading.
Can you find one source?

biko

biko wrote: »

You seem to think that non-Muslim Chechens will disagree.

No, I think that that some non-Muslim Chechens would agree and some would disagree.

biko wrote: »

Ok, get one of the other Chechens to openly disagree with the beheading.
Can you find one source?

That's not how statistics works. No statistician would ever claim that 100% of a population agrees on anything like this.

And the reason you can't find a source isn't because no Chechens disagrees with it, it's because they'd fear for their lives if they disagreed with it publicly.

statesaver

Deleted User wrote: »

And the reason you can't find a source isn't because no Chechens disagrees with it, it's because they'd fear for their lives if they disagreed with it publicly.

Like, would they be beheaded if they disagreed ?

John Doe1

Lux23 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/thousands-of-people-congregated-in-belfast-for-the-funeral-of-former-ira-man-1.4292668

Yea, you would never see anything like that happening here.

So you believe celebrating a funeral of a member of an organization which was involved in a civil war to restore civil rights and nationhood is the same as
lopping off the head of a civilian because he was trying to teach children a lesson?

Would i be right in assuming you are one of these disingenous left wingers who dont actually understand what liberalism is (or wilfully ignore liberal values to get woke points)?

Gervais08

John Doe1 wrote: »

So you believe celebrating a funeral of a member of an organization which was involved in a civil war to restore civil rights and nationhood is the same as
lopping off the head of a civilian because he was trying to teach children a lesson?

Would i be right in assuming you are one of these disingenous left wingers who dont actually understand what liberalism is (or wilfully ignore liberal values to get woke points)?

I’m going to say - yes. To both points.

dok_golf

Hundreds attended IRA funerals too

ElJeffe

dok_golf wrote: »

Hundreds attended IRA funerals too

Start a thread about it so. This one is about an Islamist scumbag.

John Doe1

dok_golf wrote: »

Hundreds attended IRA funerals too

Whats your point?

Because you could not possibly be making equivelance between that and this?

Surely....

Gervais08

dok_golf wrote: »

Hundreds attended IRA funerals too

Kindly provide one example of where an IRA member (any vintage from the 20s to the current dissidents) beheaded someone for showing a cartoon.

CtevenSrowder

biko wrote: »

Maybe you don't know what it's like there?
Chechnya is almost 100% Muslim, their president Ramzan Kadyrov is not only a devout Muslim but "Russia's number one Muslim".

Do you think they will oppose when a kafir (that's someone like you) disrespects Mohammad and gets a traditional Islamic punishment?

You said there 'aren't any Chechens' that would oppose what he did. A majority may not (even then I wouldn't be so sure) , but of course there are some. So in answer to your question, yes I think some would oppose it.

markodaly

seamus wrote: »

Large funerals for horrible murdering scumbags in their home town is not exactly a surprise.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/174E1/production/_113175459_bobby_storey_funeral50.jpg

https://world.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2013/04/1667961061.jpg

Who is the funeral of the second person? Was that the Queen Mother? Not really the same thing now is it?

Edit: It was Thatcher? Well, she didn't murder anyone, so you are wrong there,... again Seamus.

Coillte_Bhoy

biko wrote: »

You seem to think that non-Muslim Chechens will disagree.

Ok, get one of the other Chechens to openly disagree with the beheading.
Can you find one source?

Yes the President himself condemned it, your comments on the Chechen people are disgracefu.

Gervais08

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Yes the President himself condemned it, your comments on the Chechen people are disgracefu.

He allowed the remains to come into the country - if he truly condemned it then he’d have let the ****er rot in an unmarked grave in France.

Stihl waters

Terrible decision by the french authorities, he should never have been seen again after his filthy body was mopped up, cremated and dumped in a bin was plenty good for him

Jequ0n

endacl wrote: »

They returned him to Chechnya? Were all the open landfill tipheads in France full? He could have fed a family of seagulls for a week.

French seagulls would have turned their beaks up at this offering

Hangdogroad

The Chechens are a strange bunch in general.