F1 2020 :Round 17 Abu Dhabi

Joeface

Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2020


End of the road
Circuit Length :5.554km
Number of Laps :55 laps

Still some driver line ups to be confirmed .




Abu Dhabi / Round 17
SESSION YOUR TIME
1st Free practice Fri 11 Dec 09:00 - 10:30
2nd Free practice Fri 11 Dec 13:00 - 14:30
3rd Free practice Sat 12 Dec 10:00 - 11:00
1st Qualifying Sat 12 Dec 13:00 - 13:18
2nd Qualifying Sat 12 Dec 13:25 - 13:40
3rd Qualifying Sat 12 Dec 13:48 - 14:00
Race Sun 13 Dec 13:10 - 15:10

afatbollix

Just before lockdown I thought it would be a good idea to walk 4 laps of this track training for a ultra walk.

Turns out I had a broken bone in my foot that had been misdiagnosed and that's all I can remember of the track is how fooken painful it was.

BrentMused

Lewis will be given up until Saturday morning to test negative before Mercedes will be forced to make the call, according to the below.

His 10 day self-isolation period ends today.

Russell is listed for Mercedes media duties.

https://twitter.com/straits_times/status/1336761699668471809?s=21

ELM327

I hope russell gets the drive. Hamilton has already won the title and Mercedes have already won the constructors, so there's nothing to lose for them by keeping George.

BrentMused

ELM327 wrote: »

I hope russell gets the drive. Hamilton has already won the title and Mercedes have already won the constructors, so there's nothing to lose for them by keeping George.

They’d obviously never say it, but secretly I’d imagine Mercedes top brass are hoping it will be Russell and that he’ll put in another strong performance.

I agree with Brundle who feels the decision to give Russell the drive in the first place was purely tactical as a potential chip to use in Hamilton’s contract negotiations.

Another strong showing from Russell here will further weaken Lewis’ hand.

SureYWouldntYa

What do Williams do so? Move forward with Aitken for the weekend and then on Sat does George just slot back in?

Since it's unlikely Russell will get the seat next season, he'll end up like a bloody martyr figure especially if Hamilton jumps in last minute this weekend

Top Dog

It's a bit of a joke to be honest. If he's not there tomorrow morning then that should be it. You can't have George doing the 3 practice sessions, setting up the car and then boot him for qualifying. Is he supposed to sit into a Williams after that which he had no time to set up and then qualify? It's dangerous if nothing else.

ELM327

I think they would likely know by now who its going to be.

seamusk84

ELM327 wrote: »

I think they would likely know by now who its going to be.

I mean at this stage you would have to fancy Russell will get he drive. Hamilton was positive just a few days ago, too great a risk for the team.

Really want to see Russell get another crack at it, couldn't believe what happened last week.

Joeface

Mercedes are taking the piss with this , It impacts Russell & Jack Aitken, Williams a lot more that it does Mercedes .


I know its the last race of the season but there are still some Points up for grabs in the midfield and the lower end . Pretty sure Williams would like their best man chancing that with them and if Not be allowed to prepare fully with out swapping drivers again .

Joeface

Last Race Head to head updates .
Some Teams are pretty close between the drivers over the Race results.


Qualifying Head to Head
Lewis Hamilton 11 MERCEDES 4 Valtteri Bottas
Sebastian Vettel 4 FERRARI 12 Charles Leclerc
Max Verstappen 16 RED BULL 0 Alex Albon
Carlos Sainz 8 McLAREN 7 Lando Norris
Daniel Ricciardo 15 RENAULT 1 Esteban Ocon
Pierre Gasly 13 ALPHATAURI 3 Daniil Kvyat
Sergio Perez 10 RACING POINT 3 Lance Stroll
Kimi Raikkonen 8 ALFA ROMEO 8 Antonio Giovinazzi
Romain Grosjean 7 HAAS 8 Kevin Magnussen
George Russell 15 WILLIAMS 0 Nicholas Latifi
Lance Stroll 1 RACING POINT 1 Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez 1 RACING POINT 0 Nico Hulkenberg
Valtteri Bottas 1 MERCEDES 0 George Russell
Kevin Magnussen 1 HAAS 0 Pietro Fittipaldi
Nicholas Latifi 1 WILLIAMS 0 Jack Aitken


Race Head To head
Lewis Hamilton 12 MERCEDES 3 Valtteri Bottas
Sebastian Vettel 5 FERRARI 9 Charles Leclerc
Max Verstappen 11 RED BULL 4 Alex Albon
Carlos Sainz 8 McLAREN 8 Lando Norris
Daniel Ricciardo 12 RENAULT 4 Esteban Ocon
Pierre Gasly 8 ALPHATAURI 8 Daniil Kvyat
Sergio Perez 8 RACING POINT 4 Lance Stroll
Kimi Raikkonen 11 ALFA ROMEO 5 Antonio Giovinazzi
Romain Grosjean 7 HAAS 6 Kevin Magnussen
George Russell 9 WILLIAMS 6 Nicholas Latifi
Lance Stroll 1 RACING POINT 0 Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez 1 RACING POINT 0 Nico Hulkenberg
Valtteri Bottas 1 MERCEDES 0 George Russell
Kevin Magnussen 0 HAAS 1 Pietro Fittipaldi
Nicholas Latifi 0 WILLIAMS 1 Jack Aitken

from the site I got them from table includes only the races where the current driver pairings were at the same team. These battles are based on the final finishing places of the two drivers after any penalties were applied. Races where both drivers retired are not included.

Harika

Not even depending on the testing, but so quickly after covid to be physically fit, doubt it makes sense.
And if after Friday if it is decided to swap? Will they ice Russell away on a late call?

Adamocovic

Russell just teasing us with the Merc top today. Don’t know if people follow him on Instagram but posted a photo of him walking the track in the Merc gear.

Caption was “Wasn’t too sure which top to put on so went with the last one I wore.”

Would love to see him given a second chance at it.

Also Sainz and Norris last time as teammates. Easily my favorite duo on the track. Hilarious together and two good drivers.

Going to be a fun weekend!

LollipopJimmy

Hamilton confirmed and is now in Abu Dhabi

antodeco

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Hamilton confirmed and is now in Abu Dhabi

https://www.facebook.com/568665409957112/posts/1966294906860815/?sfnsn=mo

Hijpo

Aaahhh bol***

Gaoth Laidir

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Hamilton confirmed and is now in Abu Dhabi

It seems a very short time for Lewis to be out. Perez was out for two races and Stroll one, but that race (Eifel) was two weeks apart from both the race before it and after it.

Frank Bullitt

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

It seems a very short time for Lewis to be out. Perez was out for two races and Stroll one, but that race (Eifel) was two weeks apart from both the race before it and after it.

You will get the line from Sky after he wins of "wow, what a performance after all the time out of the car".

Just watch.

Harika

5er on vandoorne to score points on Sunday

Adamocovic

Shame. Would have loved to see Russell back in the car.

Hamilton returning kind of ends any mad excitement I think.

Top Dog

Well that's my buzz well and truly extinguished

Joeface

Monster energy for the win.

Would be good to see Vandoorne in the car also , I assume as the simulator driver he is familiar with all modes and setting.

Inquitus

Shame, with nothing to lose it would have been good to see Russell v Bottas Rd 2 at Abu Dhabi! Ach so, what a shame!

17larsson

Gintonious wrote: »

You will get the line from Sky after he wins of "wow, what a performance after all the time out of the car".

Just watch.

He'll mention on the radio how little energy he has and is struggling with fatigue but he'll power on like the hero he is and Wolff will say how it was a miracle that he was able to last the full race after nearly dieing of covid just a few days earlier

Frank Bullitt

The responses on Twitter are very reflective of what we have in here, I was hoping for a good race.

Top Dog

If George was in the Merc I'd make the effort to watch it live, now I don't think I'll bother and just catch the highlights.

pjohnson

So then the only highlights will be

Confirmed F1 farewell for KMag, team farewells for Sainz, Vettel, Perez and Ricciardo. Potential F1 farewell's for Kvyat, Albon and Fittipaldi.

McLaren's final race using Renault engines.

Racing Point and Renault's final race.

Gaoth Laidir

Gintonious wrote: »

The responses on Twitter are very reflective of what we have in here, I was hoping for a good race.

If it's that bad then maybe Hamilton's stock has taken a bit of a battering and he's not quite the King he thinks he is.

Hopefully he doesn't get past turn 1 on Sunday.

Top Dog

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

If it's that bad then maybe Hamilton's stock has taken a bit of a battering and he's not quite the King he thinks he is.

Hopefully he doesn't get past turn 1 on Sunday.

To be fair, I'd imagine a lot of it is because people feel George deserves a second shot after the almighty c**k up in the pits last week. Lewis has done enough this year so really doesn't need to be there as such.

I'm neither a fan nor a hater of Lewis, I just feel George got shafted last week so he deserves a clean attempt.

namloc1980

Glad he's feeling better but bit of a downer from the point of view of the race having Hamilton back. Almost guaranteed that Hamilton will say he struggled during the race even though he'll have won by 30 seconds and have lapped half the field at least.

pjohnson

namloc1980 wrote: »

Glad he's feeling better but bit of a downer from the point of view of the race having Hamilton back. Almost guaranteed that Hamilton will say he struggled during the race even though he'll have won by 30 seconds and have lapped half the field at least.

Poor Bono's ears

Frank Bullitt

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

If it's that bad then maybe Hamilton's stock has taken a bit of a battering and he's not quite the King he thinks he is.

Hopefully he doesn't get past turn 1 on Sunday.

I might be alone in thinking his stock hasn't really been high for a while, not in terms of skills but in terms of popularity. Especially this year with the spin on some sort of "struggle" he has on race weekends.

He hasn't had any sort of struggle for most of his F1 career, that I can think of.

ro_chez

Gintonious wrote: »

I might be alone in thinking his stock hasn't really been high for a while, not in terms of skills but in terms of popularity. Especially this year with the spin on some sort of "struggle" he has on race weekends.

He hasn't had any sort of struggle for most of his F1 career, that I can think of.

No, just the online backlash from his gender shaming of his nephew on twitter a few years back for wearing a dress, which I'm sure makes him feel that its in his best interests to champion the BLM movement in F1 to protect his perceived legacy/brand, and publicly look down on his colleagues who choose not to take the knee before their about to race.

flazio

pjohnson wrote: »

Poor Bono's ears

In the words of the man himself
Well tonight thank God it's them, instead of you.

Car99

Hamilton should take a leaf out of Rosbergs book and retire while winning. I saw Rosberg showing off his new yacht in Monaco this week couple with speccing his Rimac the week before he's having g a ball.

Stoolbend

Gintonious wrote: »

I might be alone in thinking his stock hasn't really been high for a while, not in terms of skills but in terms of popularity. Especially this year with the spin on some sort of "struggle" he has on race weekends.

He hasn't had any sort of struggle for most of his F1 career, that I can think of.

Hamiltons stock is as high as its ever been. He has more fans than anyone, but he also has more haters. If you don't adore him like most of his fans you just hate him for coming across as a tool.

I'm a Hamilton fan but don't follow his social media or watch his interviews. That way I don't have to see how annoying he comes across. As a driver he's hard to fault.

Ikozma

How come kubica is driving for alpha romeo, where's geo?

ELM327

Ikozma wrote: »

How come kubica is driving for alpha romeo, where's geo?

kubica is their test driver and he does some FP1s

Joeface

FP1 POS DRIVER CAR GAP
1 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Honda 1m37.378s
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.034s
3 Esteban Ocon Renault 1.137s
4 Alexander Albon Red Bull/Honda 1.169s
5 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1.366s
6 Lance Stroll Racing Point/Mercedes 1.453s
7 Sergio Perez Racing Point/Mercedes 1.578s
8 Daniil Kvyat AlphaTauri/Honda 1.772s
9 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri/Honda 1.782s
10 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1.821s
11 Carlos Sainz Jr. McLaren/Renault 1.952s
12 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1.966s
13 Lando Norris McLaren/Renault 1.974s
14 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 2.292s
15 Robert Kubica Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 2.527s
16 George Russell Williams/Mercedes 3.068s
17 Nicholas Latifi Williams/Mercedes 3.685s
18 Mick Schumacher Haas/Ferrari 3.857s
19 Pietro Fittipaldi Haas/Ferrari 6.691s
20 Daniel Ricciardo Renault -

Fittipaldi & Vettel were running parts for next years cars , not sure if they said which parts , Riccado had a gearbox issue .

Jordan 199

George Russell has a beautiful helmet this weekend:

Is this the last time we will see the Williams branding?

tipp_tipp_tipp

Alonso in the 2005 renault

ELM327

Such a beautiful sound. Shows how awful the cars are today.

tipp_tipp_tipp

tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »

Alonso in the 2005 renault

Came in to post that and again make the point that the cars in that generation look so much more rapid and twitchy. Constant adjustments, hacking the wheel, flick of opposite lock in most corners, lovely.

LollipopJimmy

tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »

Alonso in the 2005 renault

Any lap times for it? This car would have ran on grooved tyres too, I'd love to see the difference

quokula

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Any lap times for it? This car would have ran on grooved tyres too, I'd love to see the difference

I doubt they'd be representative as it's just a demonstration run. Even though it looks and sounds faster than a qualifying run in a current car.

Absolutely stunning to watch, didn't appreciate how good we had it back in those days to be able to witness cars that sounded so incredible and were so twitchy and needed so much work in the car.

Jordan 199

The top of Russell's helmet with the nine Williams cars that won the Constructors Championship:

ELM327

Great helmet and it seems like a goodbye helmet

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

Came in to post that and again make the point that the cars in that generation look so much more rapid and twitchy. Constant adjustments, hacking the wheel, flick of opposite lock in most corners, lovely.

I watched the few minutes of coverage it got at the start of FP2 and to be honest I'd prefer to watch that for 90 minutes than the race of these cars.

flazio

ELM327 wrote: »

Great helmet and it seems like a goodbye helmet

It's a goodbye to Claire and Frank. Russell is signed up to the new team for next year.

tipp_tipp_tipp

So the full onboard lap from Alonso's run is in the link below. Don't really agree with those saying those cars were twitchy, this was the year where Alonso was going into most corner with practically full lock and the cars had pretty advanced traction control and electronics at this stage. I remember reading an interview with Monteiro back then and he mentioned how you pretty much had to drive the car to whatever suited the electronics. Though having said that the Jordan and the Minardi that year looked an awful handful, I used to enjoy their qualifying laps (I used to love 1 lap qualy as you got to see everyone's laps, but I accept I am in the minority on that one). Also worth noting at lot of people were switching off F1 during the early 2000s, the boom of the 90s was well and truly over.

On the other side though I do think those cars from 2005 were very pretty. After that season I think they started to go a bit OTT with turning vanes everywhere. I also loved how the cars were quite unique in shape. The McLaren for example had that distinct flat nose (always reminded me of a duck bill). If you painted all the cars white you have good chance at identifying which car is which. I would struggle with that these days. Also needless to say the sound is epic and adds a fantastic element of drama. Never got to experience the V10s in real life, the V8s were noisy enough, so can't imagine what the V10s were like. Anyway, enjoy the lap:

https://streamable.com/f62y6b