Eirgrid warns of power outages: what are the EV owners options for cooking the turkey

Marlow

Mad_Lad's complaining about datacentres has now forced Google to pull the plug on their datacentres.

As a result Youtube, Gmail and other google services are down across Europe. Just saying.

/M

the_amazing_raisin

Marlow wrote: »

Mad_Lad's complaining about datacentres has now forced Google to pull the plug on their datacentres.

As a result Youtube, Gmail and other google services are down across Europe. Just saying.

/M

Oh no, how am I going to google all the answers to problems I have in work???


I'll have to rely on bing :eek:

the_amazing_raisin

OSI wrote: »

Was it not proposed to use the Apple DC in Athenry as test case for heating local homes using heat from the cooling system in the DC?

I think the same was proposed for the waste incinerator in Ringsend, the problem is no-one bothered to implement it.


Because free heating for life apparently isn't worth it :rolleyes:

the_amazing_raisin

Marlow wrote: »

Mad_Lad's complaining about datacentres has now forced Google to pull the plug on their datacentres.

As a result Youtube, Gmail and other google services are down across Europe. Just saying.

/M

Maps is down too, does this mean every Tesla is currently lost? They use Google maps as the backend AFAIK



Thankfully it seems ABRP is still working, either they don't use Google or they've a lot of data already cached so they can keep going without Google services

Marlow

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Maps is down too, does this mean every Tesla is currently lost? They use Google maps as the backend AFAIK



Thankfully it seems ABRP is still working, either they don't use Google or they've a lot of data already cached so they can keep going without Google services

It was something in relation with accounts. If you used the services anonymously, they worked. It seems to have been fixed now.

/M

the_amazing_raisin

I wonder how many poor google engineers lost their jobs over that one

Creamy Goodness

cruisey1987 wrote: »

I wonder how many poor google engineers lost their jobs over that one

none, because if you lost a job over something like that you'd have no engineers left.

Marlow

Marlow wrote: »

So, what you are saying is, that we should kick the data centres out of Ireland, not have that tax income and the fee jobs they create at all, because Eirgrid is too lazy and can not be bothered to comply with green energy generation ?

Do you know how backwards that sounds ?

The problem is not datacentres. Removing the data centres is not the solution either.

The problem, disregardless of consumption, is Eirgrid and the power generation, that it utilizes. End of story. And the money data centres pay Eirgrid actually should help funding a change to greener energy. Without them, there would be less funds to do so.

/M

Marlow wrote: »

Mad_Lad's complaining about datacentres has now forced Google to pull the plug on their datacentres.

As a result Youtube, Gmail and other google services are down across Europe. Just saying.

/M

We have to at some point ask ourselves, is all this steel and concrete and it's impact to the environment worth it for our endless thirst for entertainment ? the land needed, the eyesores they construct, not many people work there for their size, they pay way less tax than they would in most places and if we're talking Irish jobs here there is a substantial amount of non nationals employed in the Data Centre industry and a huge amount of jobs are contract and not permanent.

Apart from paying very little tax in Ireland the Data Centres are here because of the climate, more and more are using forced air rather than needing AC, this has it's advantages and disadvantages, they can be very uncomfortable places to work but as long as the equipment is happy then that's all that matters.

So lets say future expansion of data centres was banned in Ireland until the grid becomes clean enough and supply issues are resolved and until they don't have to use diesel generation ( at certain times ) the impact to Ireland would be negligible and the Government need to wake up and make them pay what tax they should.

Again, few Irish Permanent jobs per size of Data Centre. Huge amount of non nationals employed move the DCs to France, they will have to pay a lot more tax there and will contribute to the tax income in France a lot more than in Ireland and they will have a lot more clean Nuclear power and we'll still all be able to waste out lives away looking at endless hours of sh1t lol.

CBRE might be p1ssed off of course because they look after the electrical end of things in a lot of Data Centres and they are they only ones that I see that have a mostly Irish workforce in the Data Centres while the I.T end of things is easily 50/50 National/non-nationals.

I.T needs a properly recognized union because a lot of these Multinationals treat People like dirt and get away with it and have high turnovers of staff. CBRE on the other hand don't have such a high turnover of staff, wonder why ?

Anyone here ever have the misfortune to sit through an Amazon interview and have to study before hand learning off bullsh1t answers to their bullsh1t leadership principles ? woeful company to work for I believe too.

cruisey1987

cruisey1987 wrote: »

I wonder how many poor google engineers lost their jobs over that one

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

none, because if you lost a job over something like that you'd have no engineers left.

What are you talking about no engineers left ? West Dublin has more than enough Data Centres to keep People employed for years.

They need to build them outside of Dublin, it's ridiculous the amount in West Dublin alone both mega and small.

Joseph SEE

<<Mod Note: Snipped if you want to discuss general politics go to the politics forum, on this thread stick to the topic of Ireland keeping up with electrical demand with a particular regard to EVs>>

Marlow

Deleted User wrote: »

They need to build them outside of Dublin, it's ridiculous the amount in West Dublin alone both mega and small.

They tried that. All they got was planning objections ... loosing rural Ireland jobs (not many, but still) and infrastructure See .. Athenry. Same lad next objected to a datacentre in Dublin, cause ... he ran out of rural datacentre projects to object to.

/M

Marlow

Marlow wrote: »

They tried that. All they got was planning objections ... loosing rural Ireland jobs (not many, but still) and infrastructure See .. Athenry. Same lad next objected to a datacentre in Dublin, cause ... he ran out of rural datacentre projects to object to.

/M

He was right though about one thing, for the size of the place the jobs created after initial construction is minimal, permanent jobs even less but I wouldn't have objected to it, west Dublin has turned into a horrible place with all the commercial eyesores with no form of architecture, at least in Athenry they planned to bury the DC in trees.

liamog

Mod Note: Move on from datacentre design and jobs, the impact on the grid and the infrastructure required for them is on topic