Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

punisher5112

BobbyMalone wrote: »

All those good folks on thedonald.win must be an Antifa front, I guess.

It was seen at these peaceful protests, cough cough riots

Professor Moriarty

punisher5112 wrote: »

I honestly think they're all mad.

O wouldn't like either running a country but one thing I think was good is that trump didn't go to war.

Indeed, but why did he stop publishing stats on drone strikes?

jill_valentine

Here's a thought experiment.

What do you think would have happened if these gunsucking zip tie carrying freaks had gotten just that little bit closer to Ilhan Omar?

rossie1977

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

Mueller investigated it and found zero evidence of collusion. End of story.

Completely untrue

The only reason Mueller wasn't able to charge Trump was because you can't charge a sitting president.

Doctor Jimbob

jill_valentine wrote: »

Here's a thought experiment.

What do you think would have happened if these gunsucking zip tie carrying freaks had gotten just that little bit closer to Ilhan Omar?

Obviously nothing would have happened as this was a peaceful protest. If anything did happen, it would of course be antifa's fault, because reasons.

Professor Moriarty

BobbyMalone wrote: »

All those good folks on thedonald.win must be an Antifa front, I guess.

I think I have it figured out. If those people are Antifa in disguise then Trump is obviously the secret leader of Antifa. Makes perfect sense.

jill_valentine

punisher5112 wrote: »

It was seen at these peaceful protests, cough cough riots

The ones where boogaloo boys have actually literally been convicted for firing on police and burning down a police station to blame on the left? Those ones?

It's time to suck it up and face reality. There is a difference between these sides. One tried to stage a coup yesterday.

sydthebeat

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The Democrats and the mainstream media accused Trump being a Manchurian candidate controlled by Putin who worked hand and glove with the Russians to steal the election. That's simply a fact.

Mueller investigated it and found zero evidence of collusion. End of story.

Mueller spent almost 200 pages describing “numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.” He found that “a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.” He also found that “a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations” against the Clinton campaign and then released stolen documents.


He certainly found collusion, however he wasn't able to find enough evidence to be provable in a court of law, beyond a reasonable doubt.

punisher5112

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Indeed, but why did he stop publishing stats on drone strikes?

That I can't answer.

gmisk

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The Democrats and the mainstream media accused Trump being a Manchurian candidate controlled by Putin who worked hand and glove with the Russians to steal the election. That's simply a fact.

Mueller investigated it and found zero evidence of collusion. End of story.

Zero evidence? End of story....lol
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html

Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between Trump Campaign and Russians Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition.

Leroy42

punisher5112 wrote: »

That I can't answer.

You really can. You know why. You seem more than happy to espose theories about Biden, Harris and Antifa infiltrating right wing groups, but you are stuck on why a POTUS would opt to make facts about drone strikes killing civilians a secret?

iebamm2580

jill_valentine wrote: »

There has not been a single BLM or "antifa" member id'ed in the photos. There have been at least 15 well known far right or white supremacist public figures id'ed by name so far, including at least one who has been interviewed in media about his Trump support in the past and was strolling around with visible white supremacist tattoos.

I believe the woman shot trying to breach the chamber was carrying a likely illegal weapon btw, in addition to committing a federal crime by being there at all.

John Sullivan, left wing leader of insurgence and involved in other Marxists groups was in the capitol when the woman was shot, he was on cnn but was not questioned as to why he was there.

punisher5112

jill_valentine wrote: »

The ones where boogaloo boys have actually literally been convicted for firing on police and burning down a police station to blame on the left? Those ones?

It's time to suck it up and face reality. There is a difference between these sides. One tried to stage a coup yesterday.

We don't know for definite but I know this much there are seriously delusional on both sides and America is an extremely dangerous place with their love of high powered weapons and serious mental health issues.

It's one place I will be happy to never ever have to go to again.

rossie1977

punisher5112 wrote: »

I honestly think they're all mad.

O wouldn't like either running a country but one thing I think was good is that trump didn't go to war.

Didn't go to war...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-afghanistan-airstrikes-increased-civilian-deaths-by-330-since-2016-2020-12

punisher5112

Leroy42 wrote: »

You really can. You know why. You seem more than happy to espose theories about Biden, Harris and Antifa infiltrating right wing groups, but you are stuck on why a POTUS would opt to make facts about drone strikes killing civilians a secret?

If that's done I in no way condone that, I'm not stating any facts by the way, fully untitled to my opinion and I've followed a lot of the issues online and like to have the facts.

There were most likely people on both sides pretending to be others.

I honestly think they're nuts over there.

yagan

punisher5112 wrote: »

I honestly think they're all mad.

O wouldn't like either running a country but one thing I think was good is that trump didn't go to war.

Too busy inciting a coup.

I bet Latin America and the middle east are helping themselves to barrels of schendefreude this morning to see the the USA experience a White House backed coup attempt

Doctor Jimbob

punisher5112 wrote: »

We don't know for definite but I know this much there are seriously delusional on both sides and America is an extremely dangerous place with their love of high powered weapons and serious mental health issues.

It's one place I will be happy to never ever have to go to again.

The love of high powered weapons is largely on one side.

Only one side stormed the capital last night to try to overturn a legitimate election.

This "both sides" stuff needs to stop. The rioting associated with BLM protests last year was disgraceful as well, but the anger on that side is much, much more justified.

punisher5112

rossie1977 wrote: »

Didn't go to war...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-afghanistan-airstrikes-increased-civilian-deaths-by-330-since-2016-2020-12

I'm still correct in what I said, he didn't start the war.

Of course it's wrong civilian died but the way they look at it it's collateral damage and a lot are used as to hide behind by the enemies.

It's absolutely disgusting what has and is happening in them countries and I'm glad we have no hand in it....

Oh and I know they use Shannon by the way.

punisher5112

yagan wrote: »

Too busy inciting a coup.

I bet Latin America and the middle east are helping themselves to barrels of schendefreude this morning to see the the USA experience a White House backed coup attempt

I've a feeling it's too many movies and mental issues to be honest.


What normal person goes out attacks others, the police or their own community.
It's not normal

OS_Head

OS_Head wrote: »

At last, now that Trump is gone. The Deep state and army of Multi national lobbyists can get back to fleecing the American people good and proper.

Another gullible one that the con man in chief has convinced he is working against rather than for the vested interests, which benefited hugely during his presidency

jill_valentine

punisher5112 wrote: »

We don't know for definite

We do. It is right in front of your eyes. Be a big man and face it instead of telling yourself fairytales otherwise.

Leroy42

punisher5112 wrote: »

I've a feeling it's too many movies and mental issues to be honest.


What normal person goes out attacks others, the police or their own community.
It's not normal

It is not normal, but understandable when one considers that these people have been tricked into believing that the very core of their country, democracy, has been stolen from them.

THat everyone around them, except their group and Trump, is in on a big steal, turning the country they love into a socialist wasteland.

That the freedoms that they grandfathers/fathers etc fought and died for are being stolen from them.

When one drives enough people into thinking like that, there is little surprise to what comes next. We have seen it repeated across history.

PropJoe10

jill_valentine wrote: »

Here's a thought experiment.

What do you think would have happened if these gunsucking zip tie carrying freaks had gotten just that little bit closer to Ilhan Omar?

I'm sure they would've gone to her, shook her hand and politely requested that she "go back to her own country".

Actually, maybe not.

punisher5112

jill_valentine wrote: »

We do. It is right in front of your eyes. Be a big man and face it instead of telling yourself fairytales otherwise.

Prove it

Baggly

paw patrol wrote: »

verified:rolleyes: what are you?

the king of the blue tick ****?:pac:


your labels are meaningless and I don't think you know what you are waffling about tbh. Seems a moronic accusation.


But fascism involves a devotion and obedience to the state machine which couldn't be further from my beliefs.



But what would I know when the man on boards tells me I'm the resurrection of some dude from the 1930s in Hugo Boss attire ?:rolleyes:














I should post here more :pac:

Mod

Dont post here again.

Panrich

It's hard to envisage how deluded these people are and why they are so gullible. Watching them chanting 'Stop the steal' in support of a narcissistic despot whilst invading the capitol buildings was both fascinating and horrifying to watch. I don't think there can be any way these poor deluded fools will see the error of their ways.

The fact that thousands were prepared to descend on Washington to 'voice' their concerns (or more precisely Trumps concerns) can be manipulated by dark forces in future. There is a large cohort of people now divorced from reality and common sense who are willing to follow a new path and that represents a readymade army willing to mobilise for the next Trump to come along.

I don't think that this genie can be put back in the bottle.

yagan

punisher5112 wrote: »

I've a feeling it's too many movies and mental issues to be honest.


What normal person goes out attacks others, the police or their own community.
It's not normal

I agree, but if they had managed to storm the chamber before it was evacuated we'd be probably at the start of a long tense standoff which could have ended very badly.

In more gun friendly states there's the risk of an armed occupation of a state capital building, taking back murica one state at a time. The pictures of the highly armed anti lockdown protesters in Michigan earlier this year was a postcard from the future.

HBC08

Strumms wrote: »

I’d say anyone with the name Trump will do well to get into Walmart, forget the Whitehouse. This will resonate for decades.

You are seriously underestimating the wilful stupidity of Trump supporters and a large majority of modern day Republicans.
This will be spun and broken down into the familiar us and them narrative and on we go.
It actually doesn't matter how far Trump drags the whole thing down.
I have American friends who are Trump supporters,after every new low for the last 4 years I've had a look on their fb and tried to understand and interact with all the comments,it's another planet.Its a state of mind where reason ,reality and facts dont matter.
Sure enough I was having a look today,most of them sticking to their guns.Biased MSM reporting,sensationalist reporting,infiltrated by ANTIFA etc.
Proof of these things include the guy in the racoon outfit (or whatever he was meant to be) was also seen at a BLM protest.
Leave them to it and learn from it,hopefully we never let things decend into that level of lunacy over here.

MontgomeryClift

Panrich wrote: »

It's hard to envisage how deluded these people are and why they are so gullible. Watching them chanting 'Stop the steal' in support of a narcissistic despot whilst invading the capitol buildings was both fascinating and horrifying to watch. I don't think there can be any way these poor deluded fools will see the error of their ways.

The fact that thousands were prepared to descend on Washington to 'voice' their concerns (or more precisely Trumps concerns) can be manipulated by dark forces in future. There is a large cohort of people now divorced from reality and common sense who are willing to follow a new path and that represents a readymade army willing to mobilise for the next Trump to come along.

I don't think that this genie can be put back in the bottle.

I hope you're right. Maybe their next figurehead won't be such a con man.

jill_valentine

punisher5112 wrote: »

Prove it

Prove that what happened on camera in live real time before our eyes yesterday happened? Do you need me to help you come to terms with the sky being blue and water being wet too?

A crisis of reality is not my duty to resolve for you, so I will leave you to it.