Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

namloc1980

Overheal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MaryGraceMedia/status/1338567178493292546?s=20

They have NO short term memory. None.

That headline should read:

BREAKING: Nevada GOP traitors just committed sedition for @realDonaldTrump!!!

everlast75

https://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1338622881782243334?s=19

Overheal

This, this is the front line of Trump supporters.

https://twitter.com/yuri_was/status/1338631439546368000?s=20

That is literally what bicameral means.. (and I don't think North America gets together to vote)

Overheal

namloc1980 wrote: »

That headline should read:

BREAKING: Nevada GOP traitors just committed sedition for @realDonaldTrump!!!

In their defense there is a fine line between exploring every and all legal avenues to challenge this election, and sedition. To their credit, as much as I disagree with their clearly false hope attempts, legally speaking they are exculpating and clear in their press releases that they prepared these slates for the pure sack of exhausting their legal options, not as a means of implying that they hold the government or especially the courts in contempt. The Arizona GOP crossed that line when they started flirting with dog whistles for starting a 2nd confederacy, but cooler heads will prevail.

By all means, 3 US Code 15 explicitly handles the possibility competing electors may be brought to Congress - so it's not as though the act itself of bringing competing electors there is an act of open rebellion. Eg. what if one slate of electors bears the seal of the Governor, and the other bears the Secretary of State? The law says the seal of the executive of course, but depending on exigent circumstances a cosigned objection in Congress could move to debate accepting the SOS sealed electors and not the Governor-sealed electors.*

I could see how something like that could arise reasonably and sans seditious implications. But both chambers, by majority, still have to vote in agreement with one another, or else the law defaults to the slate bearing executive seal (the governor) if say the Senate voted for the alternate electors and the House voted for the formally certified electors. So, they're banking at this point on a lot of cosmically improbable circumstances, at this point it is still just about the grift.

*A similar example would be a slate sent by the state legislature, or one chamber, or I think in the 2020 case not any legislative body per se but just the state GOP parties themselves are holding these alternate votes (making it, you would think, the weakest form of a slate with the exception of my alternative slate of electors from a mock election I held during lunch at Buffalo Wild Wings with people I found in the smoking section).

everlast75

Lest anyone forget...

https://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1338628999648595970?s=19

namloc1980

Electoral college concludes 306-232 for Biden. That's more than the 304 Trump got in 2016 when he had 2 faithless electors. So even more winning for Biden!!

Overheal

everlast75 wrote: »

Lest anyone forget...

https://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1338628999648595970?s=19

This explains the sycophancy in his resignation letter. He wants that pardon. However, given the egregious nature of some of his crimes, the States themselves may have standing to prosecute him - I think? GOP states sued the Obama administration enough times that I don't think it's a foreign concept.

everlast75

Gotta love when a holes who encouraged this dangerous nonsense realise what they've done and try to stop it

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1338651482560729088?s=19

They were told way back to not do this, and yet they did.

They own all of it.

everlast75

I saw this and thought of certain posters here....

https://twitter.com/JoshuaHol/status/1338496889671610370?s=19

Overheal

There are a staggering number of people around who seem to think there’s a chance Congress will bend over backwards to avoid accepting the state results certified by their governors.

What’s sadder is that at least as many people think the United States would happily accept the nullification of an entire election by 26 states. How did our civics education get so bad? (Don’t answer that)

Part of the delusion du jour also revolves around what they’re referring to as EO 2018, an executive order Trump signed that year for the Intel agencies to submit classified reports within 45 days of an election detailing any known foreign interference. Like any good “lock her up,” “yeah but John Durham’s report etc.” vibe, this one is vining that the intelligence community will dredge up proof of their allegations somehow and hand them victory

everlast75

When you've lost Putin....

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1338753983314321408?s=19

Sonics2k

Oh I do hope Trump starts talking bad about Putin now.

bnt

William Barr is a farily dodgy character who has covered for Trump on many occasions, but it appears there are some lines he wouldn't cross. The investigation of Hunter Biden is ongoing, but Barr followed DOJ policy in not using that information, since it could have influenced the election. He told the truth about how much electoral fraud had actually happened: almost none, nothing that would have swayed the election. In his resignation letter he poured cold water on Trump's attempts to undermine the election:

At a time when the country is so deeply divided, it is incumbent on all levels of government, and all agencies acting within their purview, to do all we can do assure the integrity of elections and promote public confidence in their outcome.

bnt

bnt wrote: »

William Barr is a farily dodgy character who has covered for Trump on many occasions, but it appears there are some lines he wouldn't cross. The investigation of Hunter Biden is ongoing, but Barr followed DOJ policy in not using that information, since it could have influenced the election. He told the truth about how much electoral fraud had actually happened: almost none, nothing that would have swayed the election. In his resignation letter he poured cold water on Trump's attempts to undermine the election:

I wonder if there was an element of self preservation here. He viewed it as unlikely for Trump to win even if this revelation became public and it would have thrown him into hot water.

ohnonotgmail

Just read Bill Barrs letter. It doesnt mention the word resign anywhere.

DrumSteve

bnt wrote: »

William Barr is a farily dodgy character who has covered for Trump on many occasions, but it appears there are some lines he wouldn't cross. The investigation of Hunter Biden is ongoing, but Barr followed DOJ policy in not using that information, since it could have influenced the election. He told the truth about how much electoral fraud had actually happened: almost none, nothing that would have swayed the election. In his resignation letter he poured cold water on Trump's attempts to undermine the election:

Doesn't look like cold water at all; if anything, Trump could use that quote as a vote of confidence in what he's doing.

everlast75

Whilst Barr didn't do everything Trump wanted him to do, he did enough to go down as one of the most corrupt A.G.s ever, starting with White washing the Mueller report

bnt

DrumSteve wrote: »

Doesn't look like cold water at all; if anything, Trump could use that quote as a vote of confidence in what he's doing.

Maybe, but then that says more about Trump than it says about Barr.

I take the point about the language, the lack of the word "resign", but whether Barr was asked to resign, or told to resign, or it was "merely" suggested - these are technicalities. With Trump, you are in or out, for or against, friend or enemy. It's not as if someone like Barr has to finely calibrate the language on his CV when applying for his next job ...

namloc1980

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Just read Bill Barrs letter. It doesnt mention the word resign anywhere.

He was fired and told to sign that absolutely ridiculous brown nosing letter. I'd bet in exchange for the promise of a pardon.

duploelabs

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5fd8124ac5b62f31c1ffb41d

Of course they'll say to stock up on 'second ammendment supplies'

namloc1980

duploelabs wrote: »

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5fd8124ac5b62f31c1ffb41d

Of course they'll say to stock up on 'second ammendment supplies'

I love how the Trump supporters will pick and choose the parts of the Constitution that they like. Free speech and guns, yeah I'll have some of that. Independence of the courts and the electoral process for the President....no way IT WAS STOLEN!!!

On the Beach

Just read the letter. It's laughable really, just like the rest of the tripe to come out of Trump's mouth.

everlast75

On the Beach wrote: »

Just read the letter. It's laughable really, just like the rest of the tripe to come out of Trump's mouth.

Reminds me of the "medical report" on Trump submitted by that alleged doctor who looked like Doc Brown from Back to the Future...

On the Beach

He'd even allege his fake tan is the best fake tan :pac:

everlast75

this "report" is very much worth a read...



This was the "doctor"

On the Beach

That's another hilarious read. What a gobsh!te.

VinLieger

everlast75 wrote: »

this "report" is very much worth a read...



This was the "doctor"

Whenever one of his supporters try to boast about his health and height i love to link them this


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/16/doctor-says-trump-is-6-3-239-pounds-and-the-internet-has-so-many-athlete-comparisons/

ohnonotgmail

they must have measured trumps blood pressure in the middle of the night while he was asleep.

everlast75

VinLieger wrote: »

Whenever one of his supporters try to boast about his health and height i love to link them this


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/16/doctor-says-trump-is-6-3-239-pounds-and-the-internet-has-so-many-athlete-comparisons/

It later came out of course that Trump wrote tbe report himself, hence why most believe Trump effectively wrote Barr's letter too. Same air of bull**** about it.

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

It later came out of course that Trump wrote tbe report himself, hence why most believe Trump effectively wrote Barr's letter too. Same air of bull**** about it.

the language in it is just ridiculous. The healthiest individual ever to be elected president. Healthier than Obama? Healthier than Teddy Roosevelt, who 3 years before being sworn in was leading the charge of the rough riders up san juan hill? thats the problem with trump. He can never lie small. every lie has to be a big lie.