Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

ohnonotgmail

suicide_circus wrote: »

White terrorists....making things about race is not helpful. We need to move back to de-racialising public discourse. I am much more aware of race now than i was in say 2001 and that's sad. We've gone backwards. When I say "retribution" i don't mean holding criminals to account, I mean seeking to further alienate and punish people of a different political stripe and/or cultural & socioeconomic circumstances.

they were terrorists. they were white.

jill_valentine

suicide_circus wrote: »

White terrorists....making things about race is not helpful.

suicide_circus

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they were terrorists. they were white.

Fair enough.

Remember when John Mccain was forced by the GOP to pick Sarah Palin as his VP running mate in 2008 to appease the growing tea party wing of the GOP? That's the real starting point of all this. Add in increased broadband and mobile internet access across rural America aswell as cheap smartphones and more responsive social media sites and you have the tea party mutating into the QAnon clowns we see before our eyes nowadays. The Obama birther movement was just the prototype of the nutty conspiracy wing of the GOP voterbase. Now we've got 45% of GOP voters who believe an election was stolen despite all the evidence in front of them.

Mccain originally wanted Kasich as his VP. If he stood his ground he might have actually swayed the moderate Republicans to stop trying to appease the fringe group within the party.

suicide_circus

jill_valentine wrote: »

Cant argue with that!

So long as we're consistent in pointing out the racial backgrounds of terrorists/criminals..

jmayo

Foxtrol wrote: »

If by 'retribution' you mean holding the white terrorists and those politicians and civilians that conspired to create the decision then I strongly disagree.

'Going high' is what got us in this mess from the day Trump started to run. The lack of accountability is how things escalated to the point of yesterday.

Making this about race is absolutely the worse thing to do.

And it is probably what Trump would absolutely love.
It is one of the fears he can play on.

And I would bet you would like the same type of discussion here on some reason happenings. :rolleyes:

duploelabs

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they were terrorists. they were white.

I do find it ironic on an Irish website that someone thinks terrorists can't be white

suicide_circus

duploelabs wrote: »

I do find it ironic on an Irish website that someone thinks terrorists can't be white

Who thinks that?

Faugheen

jmayo wrote: »

Making this about race is absolutely the worse thing to do.

And it is probably what Trump would absolutely love.
It is one of the fears he can play on.

And I would bet you would like the same type of discussion here on some reason happenings. :rolleyes:

Or you can just call it what it is.

Foxtrol

jmayo wrote: »

Ah jaysus they are as bad at wrecking places as they are at picking politicians.
Screens all on desks, printer where it should be, lamps in place and working.
Bookshelves not touched.
Hell the coat stand is still in place.

FFS no fires, no painted walls, no smashed desks, no excrement on the walls and doors.

Although if I was Pelosi I would look for her office to be deep cleaned.

Plenty of furniture smashed when it wasn't being used to make barricades to keep out terrorists.

As for the lack of fires, it wasn't for the lack of bringing to tools - two bombs and 11 Molotov cocktails.

Sure keep downplaying it all the same.

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1347041126197428226?s=20

Endintheclowns

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Biden called the ex US military woman that died a domestic terrorist. So much for bringing people together and healing divisions

Biden would have a lot more Intel about her background than we do. I'm sure he made sure his comments are well backed up.

Dressoutlet

jmayo wrote: »

Ah jaysus they are as bad at wrecking places as they are at picking politicians.
Screens all on desks, printer where it should be, lamps in place and working.
Bookshelves not touched.
Hell the coat stand is still in place.

FFS no fires, no painted walls, no smashed desks, no excrement on the walls and doors.

Although if I was Pelosi I would look for her office to be deep cleaned.

I'm sorry but I think you're forgetting they left literal bombs around the place.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/RepKarenBass/status/1347190699763134468?s=19

DrumSteve

Faugheen wrote: »

I think you are completely downplaying what has happened here.

If Hawley is in the 2024 ticket, then expect the Democrats to mobilise their base, and remind the independents of what Hawley did. This is never going away for him.

Also, and I'll say it again, Trumpists vote for Trump. The 2018 mid-terms and the Georgia Senate runoffs show exactly what happens when Trump is not on the ballot.

I'm not downplaying it at all, it was pretty ****ed up, but I think Hawley calculated they wouldn't go as far as they did.

Either way, he will still turn around and say he stood up for election integrity when it mattered and be the MO senator (at the very least) until he decides to run.

jmayo

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they were terrorists. they were white.

Actually saw a black woman and an Asian looking dude in the protests.
Can't actually figure them, out but hey what can you do.
Stupid comes in all colours and races.

And here is the thing I watched about 4 hours of footage last night and there were black guys wandering through the crowd.
And they were being totally ignored.
No animosity on display.
There were also a load of ones on bicycles wandering around as well.

Now I will admit if they had been the sort we see here in garish ill fitting clothes I would have cheered if they were chased down the street.

My other half lived in DC for a few years and she reckoned it was probably some of the locals checking how the yokels who had arrived in town.

And before the avalanche yes there were some very unsavouary types involved in the protests no doubt.
Especially the ones that led the taking of the Capital building.
As I said earlier I would wonder who was looking after all the food stashes in the forests when they were all in DC.
And a lot of wild animals were safe for at least one day anyway.

jill_valentine

Out of interest, a lot of the furniture in Congress is discreetly armoured so it can be used as a bulletproof shield in case of something like this. That's why we saw people lying between rows of seats yesterday, they're bulletproofed.

Overheal

jmayo wrote: »

Ah jaysus they are as bad at wrecking places as they are at picking politicians.
Screens all on desks, printer where it should be, lamps in place and working.
Bookshelves not touched.
Hell the coat stand is still in place.

FFS no fires, no painted walls, no smashed desks, no excrement on the walls and doors.

Although if I was Pelosi I would look for her office to be deep cleaned.

Cop on please.







DC Police confirmed the bombs were operational.

Foxtrol

suicide_circus wrote: »

White terrorists....making things about race is not helpful. We need to move back to de-racialising public discourse. I am much more aware of race now than i was in say 2001 and that's sad. We've gone backwards. When I say "retribution" i don't mean holding criminals to account, I mean seeking to further alienate and punish people of a different political stripe and/or cultural & socioeconomic circumstances.

jmayo wrote: »

Making this about race is absolutely the worse thing to do.

And it is probably what Trump would absolutely love.
It is one of the fears he can play on.

And I would bet you would like the same type of discussion here on some reason happenings. :rolleyes:

Trump wouldn't love it because yesterday highlighted to the world the two tier police system that BLM protestors have been raising for years. Ignoring how the race and beliefs of the crowd impacted their treatment by the police is just sticking your head in the sand.

In addition, that mob was riddled with white supremacists and anti-Semites - like Trump's supporters in general.

https://twitter.com/IngeborgNijzink/status/1347134350454710274?s=20

Dressoutlet

Q had full access to Congress files. They could have searched for and exposed all the child trafficking and the Deep state. Proven the cabal and elite Hollywood were all real. Instead they sta down and took selfies
Derpy Derpy hillbilly Well lookahere at me in the Capitol Mary Jane
The 'Patriots', the REAL Americans literally took down the stars and stripes from the Capitol and hung nazi symbols.
Trumpists want the name of the vet who was killed (who's husband said was a staunch Trump supporter) to trend on Twitter while in the same sentence say Trumpers did not storm the building Antifa did. So was this Vet Antifa? No she magically floated in and was climbing through the window of senate and got shot.
And yeah she might have believed she was doing it for good cause but Isis believe they're doing it for good cause. If that was an Isis member in the exact same position as her in the exact same window and died in the exact same way would she cry in outrage or thank the Blue.

Foxtrol

jill_valentine wrote: »

Out of interest, a lot of the furniture in Congress is discreetly armoured so it can be used as a bulletproof shield in case of something like this. That's why we saw people lying between rows of seats yesterday, they're bulletproofed.

It is a mix of armoured, which is mostly in the chamber, historic furniture, and the remainder is contracted from a company that relies heavily on forced prison labour.

Sardonicat

Those t-shirts are sickening. Trump has emboldened people to the degree that they are happy to wear things like this in public and be filmed and photographed in them

Foxtrol

Foxtrol wrote: »

Trump wouldn't love it because yesterday highlighted to the world the two tier police system that BLM protestors have been raising for years. Ignoring how the race and beliefs of the crowd impacted their treatment by the police is just sticking your head in the sand.

In addition, that mob was riddled with white supremacists and anti-Semites - like Trump's supporters in general.

https://twitter.com/IngeborgNijzink/status/1347134350454710274?s=20

Wonder does the slimball Kushner family have any thoughts on the type of support base Trump has?

humberklog

Foxtrol wrote: »

It is a mix of armoured, which is mostly in the chamber, historic furniture, and the remainder is contracted from a company that relies heavily on forced prison labour.

And the glazing in the building is from my granny's green house.

suicide_circus

Foxtrol wrote: »

Trump wouldn't love it because yesterday highlighted to the world the two tier police system that BLM protestors have been raising for years. Ignoring how the race and beliefs of the crowd impacted their treatment by the police is just sticking your head in the sand.

In addition, that mob was riddled with white supremacists and anti-Semites - like Trump's supporters in general.

https://twitter.com/IngeborgNijzink/status/1347134350454710274?s=20

Right so, race war is inevitable.

namloc1980

Remember the days when Obama wearing a tan suit was a scandal?

suicide_circus

namloc1980 wrote: »

Remember the days when Obama wearing a tan suit was a scandal?

Whe...?

everlast75

Overheal wrote: »

Cop on please.







DC Police confirmed the bombs were operational.

https://twitter.com/keithlalexander/status/1347289481922162690?s=19

Foxtrol

suicide_circus wrote: »

Right so, race war is inevitable.

The best way to avoid a 'race war' or racial tensions in general is to not put your head in the sand regarding issues of race.

Pretending that everything is grand doesn't make things better, it makes things fester - which is what has happened in the US for decades (/centuries).

Muahahaha

Its incredible to think while all this has been going on that the US is now seeing record deaths from Covid, the average is now more than 4,000 dying a day. Which is more than the amount of deaths from 911 and its happening every day.

runawaybishop

namloc1980 wrote: »

Remember the days when Obama wearing a tan suit was a scandal?

Simpler times eh?

Republican Representative Peter King of New York called Obama's wearing of the suit unpresidential, and stated that “There’s no way, I don’t think, any of us can excuse what the president did yesterday. I mean, you have the world watching.”