Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

astrofool

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

There was a huge difference, Those complaining back in 2016 were just over emotional that their candidate lost and were being told it was the beginning of the third Reich which is obviously was not, More than half of America think the election was stolen from them and there has being no transparency into all the voting irregularities this time around and was told 'nothing to see here and any thing that was brought to court was thrown out before any evidence was allowed be shown. These irregularities should be investigated correctly, telling the public 'nothing to see' here is causing the American divide to grow even more.

Very sad to see the state of America going forward.

They were investigated correctly.

Given they have already been investigated correctly, what are the next steps? (I mean, apart from trump conceding, which is usually what every normal losing candidate has done).

Say Biden loses in 2024, and there are 60 lawsuits he launches and loses, and he refuses to concede, what can be shown to prove to his supporters that he lost?

Smee_Again

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

There was a huge difference, Those complaining back in 2016 were just over emotional that their candidate lost and were being told it was the beginning of the third Reich which is obviously was not, More than half of America think the election was stolen from them and there has being no transparency into all the voting irregularities this time around and was told 'nothing to see here and any thing that was brought to court was thrown out before any evidence was allowed be shown. These irregularities should be investigated correctly, telling the public 'nothing to see' here is causing the American divide to grow even more.

Very sad to see the state of America going forward.

More than half? G’way out of that. You’re making stuff up again.

extra gravy

Gradius wrote: »

Men are women now? Both denial of science.

Your mask has well and truly slipped.

Muahahaha

Foxtrol wrote: »

There is a good reason why the US networks didn't have cameras there, Trump has made it too unsafe for them via his rhetoric, a lot of it coming via Twitter.

Look at the abuse and violence these media received from the mob. I remember the pages and pages of pearl clutching from certain posters when certain idiotic elements of BLM protests shouted at people eating out. Of course they are nowhere to be found now.

https://twitter.com/MarquardtA/status/1347719469024612358?s=20

oh yeah, without doubt there is no way the main networks were sending reporters in there with that mob. Even Fox News staff would not have been safe in there. Later in the evening all the CNN reporters had taken off the CNN branding on their microphones as they reported from among the Trump mob.

Much of the original footage seems to be have taken by freelance journalists who presumably sold their footage to the networks asap. But this video of a cop being almost crushed in the doors that only surfaced today is likely taken by a Trump supporter who uploaded it to Parler or Discord which is why we are only seeing it now four days after the event. It would have been better had it come out immediately, maybe more Republicans would have condemned the riots sooner if it did.

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

If anyone is gonna miss trump's tweets, they haven't been scrubbed from the net, archived here..

https://twitter.com/_IntelligenceX/status/1347779339518169088?s=19

They've also got an index of a load of pics/videos from Wednesday.

Its kind of mad to think that the National Archives in the US are obliged to create a Presidential Library for all past presidents where all their public documents, speeches and presumably now Tweets are displayed for the public. Everything Trump has tweeted will have to be displayed somehow in this library, people can go there and read about him tweeting about sh1thole countries or RIGGED ELECTION, SUPREME COURT! or LIBERATE Michigan!. Id say in time it will become like some sort of macabre tourist attraction.

listermint

May I just say. It's been a fantastic week.

With all the bad covid news. This trump stuff has been delightful. Really uplifting.

And I'm cutting through all of this outrage with a virtual knife it's delicious. Theres so much it's hard to eat it in one go. But I'm savouring it in small bites.


What a week. Toasted a whiskey to it last night too. Pure joy .

namloc1980

Incredible how all the Republicans are suddenly very interested in unity and just moving on from the fact that President inciting a mob to storm the Capitol.

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listermint

namloc1980 wrote: »

Incredible how all the Republicans are suddenly very interested in unity and just moving on from the President inciting a mob to storm the Capitol.

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It's only ever unity when you lost the house senate and presidency . They'll be after the usual deficit too.

Classic but expected.

Gradius

Gradius wrote: »

I seem to be "enraged".

"Nazis"

My point was and is that tech companies are a looming monster over society.

Now, I understand some people get literal orgasms from talking about trump, and would chop their own arms off to mildly annoy some billionaire bloke thousands of miles away they'll never meet, fixing the value of their life on some ethereal show of virtue to other anonymous weirdoes they'll never meet. It's very wholesome.

But it's not about him. At all.

Can you clarify on what you view the Nazis in Charlottesville as? A mix of neo Nazis and white supremacists seems fair.

Donald Trump

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you clarify on what you view the Nazis in Charlottesville as? A mix of neo Nazis and white supremacists seems fair.

I think it has been well established that there were good people on both sides there..........:rolleyes:

Timberrrrrrrr

listermint wrote: »

May I just say. It's been a fantastic week.

With all the bad covid news. This trump stuff has been delightful. Really uplifting.

And I'm cutting through all of this outrage with a virtual knife it's delicious. Theres so much it's hard to eat it in one go. But I'm savouring it in small bites.


What a week. Toasted a whiskey to it last night too. Pure joy .

Hopefully Biden puts the icing on this cake and tells every law enforcement agency to after Trump and anyone else who helped him.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1348004115121647622?s=19

trashcan

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Equating looting a footlocker for cheap trainers with storming a government building while 99% of them are sitting in session is kinda silly.

They’d be free trainers if you were looting them surely ? I mean, if you’re paying anything for trainers during a looting, you’re doing it wrong.;)

listermint

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Hopefully Biden puts the icing on this cake and tells every law enforcement agency to after Trump and anyone else who helped him.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1348004115121647622?s=19

After that put in proper protections around voting. It can't be left to GOP meddling again for 2022.

Like how does someone who's in charge of voting registration also put themselves forward in a governer race . That's beyond bizarre in a democratic society. Where's the basic ethics.

Timberrrrrrrr

listermint wrote: »

After that put in proper protections around voting. It can't be left to GOP meddling again for 2022.

Like how does someone who's in charge of voting registration also put themselves forward in a governer race . That's beyond bizarre in a democratic society. Where's the basic ethics.

And stop with the disenfranchisement of voters in certain red states.

Hellotonever

'Antifa infiltrated us and made us look bad'

Jesus christ. This new narrative is f*cking hilarious. This MAGA cult crowd is literally sub 90 IQ

francois

Hellotonever wrote: »

'Antifa infiltrated us and made us look bad'

Jesus christ. This new narrative is f*cking hilarious. This MAGA cult crowd is literally sub 90 IQ

A culmination of 40 years of chronic underfunding of education

Hellotonever

Hellotonever wrote: »

'Antifa infiltrated us and made us look bad'

Jesus christ. This new narrative is f*cking hilarious. This MAGA cult crowd is literally sub 90 IQ

Yeah they are indeed an obviously stupid crowd.

Playing devil's advocate here, but if you were looking to destabilise a democracy for your own gain - that's the crowd you would be targeting. Similar to how to Cambridge Analytica used to target the so called "undecideds".

ohnonotgmail

Hilary got no end of abuse when she called Trump's supporters "deplorables". she wasn't wrong.

Timberrrrrrrr

Oh this just gets better and better.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2021/01/07/a-truth-reckoning-why-were-holding-those-who-lied-for-trump-accountable/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

From Day One at the Trump White House, up has been down, yes has been no, failure has been success. Sean Spicer set the tone with the inauguration crowd size – the worst kind of whopper, as it demanded that people disbelieve their own eyes. The next day, Kellyanne Conway defended Spicer’s lie with a new term, “alternative facts.” Spicer’s successor, Sarah Huckabee Sanders lied at scale, from smearing those who accused Trump of sexual harassment to conjuring jobs statistics. Her successor, Stephanie Grisham, over the course of a year, never even held a press conference, though the BS continued unabated across friendly outlets. And finally, Kayleigh McEnany, Harvard Law graduate, a propaganda prodigy at 32 who makes smiling falsehood an art form

Let it be known to the business world: Hire any of Trump’s fellow fabulists above, and Forbes will assume that everything your company or firm talks about is a lie. We’re going to scrutinize, double-check, investigate with the same skepticism we’d approach a Trump tweet. Want to ensure the world’s biggest business media brand approaches you as a potential funnel of disinformation? Then hire away.

this standard needs to apply to liars from either party. It’s just a realization that, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, in a thriving democracy, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts. Our national reset starts there.

oldtimeyfella

What do people think of Apple and Google deciding that yesterday was the day to finally remove the Parler app from their storefront?


I mean, they were perfectly happy to host it there for quite some time so i'm curious as to what the catalyst for its sudden removal was.

Sand

namloc1980 wrote: »

Incredible how all the Republicans are suddenly very interested in unity and just moving on from the fact that President inciting a mob to storm the Capitol.

Incredible how all the media, politicians and corporations are suddenly all tweeting "LAW AND ORDER" when the mobs aren't BLM/Antifa. Suddenly its domestic terrorism, not peaceful protest. It highlights how fake and controlled the BLM/Antifa movement is. This scared them, BLM/Antifa never did.

Honestly, 2021 clearly beat 2020 when those photos of US politicians cowering came out. It was good to see the same cowards who voted down sending out a measly $2,000 to Americans harmed by COVID lockdowns were terrified when unarmed and non-violent Americans came to visit them to protest. A government should be afraid of its people.

oldtimeyfella

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

What do people think of Apple and Google deciding that yesterday was the day to finally remove the Parler app from their storefront?


I mean, they were perfectly happy to host it there for quite some time so i'm curious as to what the catalyst for its sudden removal was.

Because Parlor is a significant platform for those who participated in the Capitol Insurrection...
https://www.businessinsider.com/parler-erupted-with-talk-of-revolution-as-mobs-stormed-capitol-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

Sand wrote: »

Incredible how all the media, politicians and corporations are suddenly all tweeting "LAW AND ORDER" when the mobs aren't BLM/Antifa. Suddenly its domestic terrorism, not peaceful protest. It highlights how fake and controlled the BLM/Antifa movement is. This scared them, BLM/Antifa never did.

Honestly, 2021 clearly beat 2020 when those photos of US politicians cowering came out. It was good to see the same cowards who voted down sending out a measly $2,000 to Americans harmed by COVID lockdowns were terrified when unarmed and non-violent Americans came to visit them to protest. A government should be afraid of its people.

Non violent? A police officer was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Their motivation had nothing to do with stimulus checks, it was too overturn an election. You've basically rewritten an insurrection into something it wasn't.

CIARAN_BOYLE

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

What do people think of Apple and Google deciding that yesterday was the day to finally remove the Parler app from their storefront?


I mean, they were perfectly happy to host it there for quite some time so i'm curious as to what the catalyst for its sudden removal was.

I assumed Apple Google Facebook and Twitter agreed together in some way.

If Twitter and Facebook banned Trump it would have promoted Parler.

oldtimeyfella

Deleted User wrote: »

Because Parlor is a significant platform for those who participated in the Capitol Insurrection...
https://www.businessinsider.com/parler-erupted-with-talk-of-revolution-as-mobs-stormed-capitol-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

Shouldn't these companies be removing the Twiitter and Facebook apps as well because they were/are significant platforms for the same people?

Troll is banned for trolling - it's pretty much as simple as that. He was given a time-out and he went back to trolling.

Foxtrol

This gem from Parlor today. Can't work out whether it is a law enforcement group, media, or a troll that will just release it all.

https://twitter.com/BrianSpanner1/status/1348005014317522948?s=20

MeMen2_MoRi_

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

What do people think of Apple and Google deciding that yesterday was the day to finally remove the Parler app from their storefront?


I mean, they were perfectly happy to host it there for quite some time so i'm curious as to what the catalyst for its sudden removal was.

Twitter was flooded with screenshots of contributers on parler advocating the murder of police because a terrorist got shot Wednesday..

jill_valentine

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Shouldn't these companies be removing the Twiitter and Facebook apps as well because they were/are significant platforms for the same people?

Parler was offered a chance to put some kind of effective moderation policy in place, and was permanently taken down when it did not.

It may not always feel like it given how long it took for them to kick in in Trump's case, but both Twitter and Facebook spend an enormous amount of money moderating their content. Facebook's staff here is probably mostly dedicated to that, in fact.

Kaybaykwah

Sand wrote: »

Incredible how all the media, politicians and corporations are suddenly all tweeting "LAW AND ORDER" when the mobs aren't BLM/Antifa. Suddenly its domestic terrorism, not peaceful protest. It highlights how fake and controlled the BLM/Antifa movement is. This scared them, BLM/Antifa never did.

Honestly, 2021 clearly beat 2020 when those photos of US politicians cowering came out. It was good to see the same cowards who voted down sending out a measly $2,000 to Americans harmed by COVID lockdowns were terrified when unarmed and non-violent Americans came to visit them to protest. A government should be afraid of its people.

Take off that silly hat with the horns, and take a swig of that Bud light.

oldtimeyfella

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Shouldn't these companies be removing the Twiitter and Facebook apps as well because they were/are significant platforms for the same people?

Did you read the article? The platform was opening discussing breaking into the Capitol and the likes in the days before. It was happy to allow inciting of the insurrection even during it. Twitter or Facebook do actively remove and suspend users for things like that, that was part of the reason users migrated to platforms like parler.

Sand

Deleted User wrote: »

Non violent? A police officer was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Their motivation had nothing to do with stimulus checks, it was too overturn an election. You've basically rewritten an insurrection into something it wasn't.

Bludgeoned to death? Fake news much?

He went back to his office and collapsed at some later point. He was hardly torn apart by some bloodthirsty mob. The real question is why werent you as exercised by the deaths of police officers at the hands of BLM motivated killers?

I know - the media told you it was peaceful protest.