Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Tell me how

biko wrote: »

It's possible, or even likely, these men have military training.
They could even be friends that served together.

Is it a sign of a conspiracy? Doubtful.

Not suggesting that it was a conspiracy but that as you also say the people have military training and they had instruction from within their group. Can also see that with a guy in red gesturing to people at the rear to come forward.

oldtimeyfella

Tell me how wrote: »

At least you're accepting it wasn't just a protest so.

Larping usually doesn't result in dead bodies.

Did those guys kill anyone? 4 of the 5 deaths were on their side. Fairly dismal "military action".


Of course there were former cops/military there, no one would dispute that because that cohort tends to be right leaning. They still achieved **** all and people sharing videos like that twitter guy are being hysterical.


You could take the same video and have Alex Jones share it as proof that the US military performed this entire thing as a false flag because the guys in the video acted like soldiers. People would rightfully laugh in his face.


If it was currently serving US military/police then i would be very worried.

VinLieger

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Settle down, twitter man. They failed at whatever they were trying.


Plus, they might just be LARPers.

Ohh its okay that they failed whatever they were trying and we can just forget that they were attempting to kidnap and possibly do more to democratically elected representatives.


Nothing illegal about attempting to commit a crime at all......

biko

Trump supporters are more likely to have served in the military than Antifa etc.
It's because they have a stronger belief in old-fashioned American values like national pride etc.
They are also usually adults, mainly over 30.

rossie1977

4 Americans died the last time an American government building was attacked and the Republican party spent three years on six different investigations.

Let's hope they are as thorough with regard to the Capitol investigations where now 5 Americans are dead...

Cody montana

biko wrote: »

Trump supporters are more likely to have served in the military than Antifa etc.
It's because they have a stronger belief in old-fashioned American values like national pride etc.
They are also usually adults, mainly over 30.

You don't serve in a movement.

namloc1980

biko wrote: »

It's possible, or even likely, these men have military training.
They could even be friends that served together.

Is it a sign of a conspiracy? Doubtful.

It's literally a conspiracy in the legal sense:

Seditious conspiracy (18 U.S.C. § 2384) is a crime under United States law. It is stated as follows:

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

biko

This is not the first time protesters have taken over a federal building. Although last time they were apparently invited.


Seattle Councilwoman Kshama Sawant and her staff let hundreds of protesters inside City Hall

https://twitter.com/GoldsteinStreet/status/1270565453807550467?s=20

VinLieger

biko wrote: »

Trump supporters are more likely to have served in the military than Antifa etc.
It's because they have a stronger belief in old-fashioned American values like national pride etc.

Actually people are more likely to serve if they are poor and from socially economically deprived backgrounds because the military recruitment propaganda dupes them into signing up due to their low education and very little options for other jobs. So what your actually saying is Trump supporters are likely to be less educated.

Akrasia

The biggest question from the whole event is why did it take so long from the moment the Capitol was breached, for the national guard to be called in?

In a system that has nuclear weapons on a hair trigger, it took more than an hour to approve a request to call in reinforcements while the entire senate were in mortal threat from a mob of armed insurrectionists

It took Pence to make the call, which he did to defend his own life. Trump watched the whole thing and never ordered the capitol to be protected

That on its own is worthy of impeachment
Especially given his daily rants about not being allowed to call in the national guard during civil disturbances across America last year

Tell me how

biko wrote: »

This is not the first time protesters have taken over a federal building.


Seattle Councilwoman Kshama Sawant and her staff let hundreds of protesters inside City Hall

https://twitter.com/GoldsteinStreet/status/1270565453807550467?s=20

Key word in that is 'allowed'.

Slight difference to what happened on Wednesday.

Cody montana

biko wrote: »

It's mostly peaceful.

biko wrote: »

This is not the first time protesters have taken over a federal building.


Seattle Councilwoman Kshama Sawant and her staff let hundreds of protesters inside City Hall

https://twitter.com/GoldsteinStreet/status/1270565453807550467?s=20

It's mostly peaceful.
Like you comment on the storming on the capitol?

biko

VinLieger wrote: »

Actually people are more likely to serve if they are poor and from socially economically deprived backgrounds because the military recruitment propaganda dupes them into signing up due to their low education and very little options for other jobs. So what your actually saying is Trump supporters are likely to be less educated.

No, you are saying that

biko

namloc1980 wrote: »

It's literally a conspiracy in the legal sense:

Remember the federal building in Seattle besieged by Antifa?
https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/portland-protesters-barricade-courthouse-with-federal-officers-inside/
That is also a conspiracy then yeah?

Of course a difference between then and now is that Antifa couldn't get in.

Movementarian

markodaly wrote: »

I'll bookmark this for the next time an ANTIFA or BLM march gets out of hand.
Anyone with a bag or backpack could be carrying a WMD or IED so needs to be shot and disabled before they come near any government of federal building.

For the record, I have no quibble or complaints that she was shot and killed, but the hypocrisy by some on display when it comes to that police action and other police action, involving BLM or others, is quite frankly outstanding.

Yeah you're right, because carrying a bag towards a building is the exact same as being in a building smashing open a door to get at the people inside. The. Exact. Same.

CtevenSrowder

biko wrote: »

No, you are saying that

'Duped' into joining. Complete rubbish.

namloc1980

biko wrote: »

Remember the federal building in Seattle besieged by Antifa?
https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/portland-protesters-barricade-courthouse-with-federal-officers-inside/
That is also a conspiracy then yeah?

Of course a difference between then and now is that Antifa couldn't get in.

Still busy with the false equivalences I see. Anything to avoid addressing the disgrace that happened last Wednesday.

Cody montana

Akrasia wrote: »

The biggest question from the whole event is why did it take so long from the moment the Capitol was breached, for the national guard to be called in?

In a system that has nuclear weapons on a hair trigger, it took more than an hour to approve a request to call in reinforcements while the entire senate were in mortal threat from a mob of armed insurrectionists

It took Pence to make the call, which he did to defend his own life. Trump watched the whole thing and never ordered the capitol to be protected

That on its own is worthy of impeachment
Especially given his daily rants about not being allowed to call in the national guard during civil disturbances across America last year

Probably because he wanted it to be breached.

Wasn't he busy calling senator Mike Lee and others during the rioting?
He was trying to get them to overturn the results of the election.

That was his priority.

biko

biko wrote: »

Trump supporters are more likely to have served in the military than Antifa etc.
It's because they have a stronger belief in old-fashioned American values like national pride etc.
They are also usually adults, mainly over 30.

The police officer that they murdered was also a military veteran something that the scrote sites pushing people to argue for the veteran angle are quite happy to ignore, perhaps because unlike those who support trump and took part in the breach of the Capitol, he actually remembered the oath he took.

Billy Mays

I see it's biko's turn to bring the balance

Do you guys have some sort of rota in place?

flazio

timsey tiger wrote: »

Even Donald Trump condemed her and the others.

Nope, he said he loved her and she was very special.

I'm just getting more and more fascinated by how stupid the arguments are getting. Person climbs through a window of an under siege building is clearly just trying to have a chat with elected representatives. The fact they're hiding says more about them really. That's basically one of the key arguments being made. :P

joe40

Has Trump addressed the issue of the policeman's death. Issued condolences or anything.
I know he is to much of a coward and a liar to admit any culpability or even lack of judgement, but has he at least condemned the murder.
Maybe he has I'm just not aware.

sameoldname

Billy Mays wrote: »

I see it's biko's turn to bring the balance

Do you guys have some sort of rota in place?

I find it wholly unsurprising that a lad that spends a lot of his time trying to show that certain foreigners are a threat to society is so unconcerned that a mob went and attacked the democratic foundation of a developed country.

I wonder what could be so different about this group in his mind?

Billy Mays

joe40 wrote: »

Has Trump addressed the issue of the policeman's death. Issued condolences or anything.
I know he is to much of a coward and a liar to admit any culpability or even lack of judgement, but has he at least condemned the murder.
Maybe he has I'm just not aware.

He hasn't even ordered the lowering of flags at the white house

#bluelivesmatter

biko

namloc1980 wrote: »

Still busy with the false equivalences I see. Anything to avoid addressing the disgrace that happened last Wednesday.

It was a disgrace and should not have happened.
5 people died needlessly.

Now, what are your feelings on that Antifa tried to set fire to a federal building with people inside?

namloc1980

biko wrote: »

It was a disgrace and should not have happened.
5 people died needlessly.

Now, what are your feelings on that Antifa tried to set fire to a federal building with people inside?

Any link for that? If true then those responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

biko

namloc1980 wrote: »

Any link for that? If true then those responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

It's in the post you quoted.

relax carry on

Billy Mays wrote: »

I see it's biko's turn to bring the balance

Do you guys have some sort of rota in place?

Thoughts and Prayers!

Professor Moriarty

biko wrote: »

It was a disgrace and should not have happened.
5 people died needlessly.

Now, what are your feelings on that Antifa tried to set fire to a federal building with people inside?

Perhaps you should open up a thread for this Antifa incident.