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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    joe40 wrote: »
    Has Trump addressed the issue of the policeman's death. Issued condolences or anything.
    I know he is to much of a coward and a liar to admit any culpability or even lack of judgement, but has he at least condemned the murder.
    Maybe he has I'm just not aware.

    He won't lower the flags at the WH to half mast. Pelosi, Schumer and Pence have spoken to the dead policeman's family. Trump has refused and is instead sulking in the White House about how unfair it is that his Twitter account was suspended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,819 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    biko wrote: »
    It was a disgrace and should not have happened.
    5 people died needlessly.

    Now, what are your feelings on that Antifa tried to set fire to a federal building with people inside?

    Anyone who plans to set fire to a building with people inside it should be charged attempted murder.

    See? It's not that hard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,606 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    biko wrote: »
    It's in the post you quoted.

    You ought to read the twitter threads quoted in the NY Post (Murdoch subsidiary) article. High school investigative journalism. Nice.


  • Posts: 8,647 [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    It was a disgrace and should not have happened.
    5 people died needlessly.

    Now, what are your feelings on that Antifa tried to set fire to a federal building with people inside?

    Why are you deflecting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Still using the but Obama playbook


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Anyone who plans to set fire to a building with people inside it should be charged attempted murder.
    It's good to see someone take a stand against violent thugs of any persuasion.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    It's good to see someone take a stand against violent thugs of any persuasion.

    I imagine most people in this thread would favour that. Still does not make BLM remotely similar to Trump's failed insurrection.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He won't lower the flags at the WH to half mast. Pelosi, Schumer and Pence have spoken to the dead policeman's family. Trump has refused and is instead sulking in the White House about how unfair it is that his Twitter account was suspended.

    That is shocking, he really is a vile human being.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He won't lower the flags at the WH to half mast. Pelosi, Schumer and Pence have spoken to the dead policeman's family. Trump has refused and is instead sulking in the White House about how unfair it is that his Twitter account was suspended.

    That would not have been an easy call for Pence to make.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja




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  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    It's good to see someone take a stand against violent thugs of any persuasion.

    Especially when you don't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I imagine most people in this thread would favour that. Still does not make BLM remotely similar to Trump's failed insurrection.

    BLM and antifa have been consistently violent and responsible for many riots and attacks over the last 4 years. All 3 groups are equally as bad


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/08/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-calls-pentagon-rein-trump-nukes/6596917002/
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sought and received assurance Friday from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
    that President Donald Trump would not be able to order a nuclear strike in a fit of rage.
    Nuke who? Russia?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    BLM and antifa have been consistently violent and responsible for many riots and attacks over the last 4 years. All 3 groups are equally as bad

    No..... They really aren't. BLM is primarily peaceful that's a fact. These people were actively trying to undermine a democratic Election. They weren't actually even protesting... You're engaging in a false equivalence.

    And whoever did so, will likely face life in jail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,012 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    biko wrote: »

    Iran,

    Russia is his best mate, but sure we know that because hasn't had a bad word to say about them or their leader in years.

    Weird that...


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    In hindsight Miss Clinton showed a fair bit of restraint when she called Trumpists 'the deplorables'

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://www.btselem.org/



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    No..... They really aren't. BLM is primarily peaceful that's a fact. These people were actively trying to undermine a democratic Election. They weren't actually even protesting... You're engaging in a false equivalence.

    But how do we rate that, the maga hat crowd have been attending rallies etc.. for almost 5 years now with very few violent incidents until this week. BLM protests, the chaz zone etc.. have spent years having riots and lootings and being violent just more spaced out. Theyre both to be condemned.

    Both movements have been ‘mostly peaceful’ but both have committed horrific violent acts under their respective banner, the only fair thing to do is condemn both.

    Did the left not spend 4 years trying to dismantle the electoral college and use #notmypresident , as i said 2 cheeks of the same arse


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    BLM and antifa have been consistently violent and responsible for many riots and attacks over the last 4 years. All 3 groups are equally as bad

    Only one group is backed and supported by the American president. He literally expressed his love on Wed night.
    Why is it so hard to see that is the major problem here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭eggy81


    They’re heading for civil war over there if things continue in the current trajectory. It’s a messed up place these last few years. I’d hate to be bringing children up there now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,012 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    eggy81 wrote: »
    They’re heading for civil war over there if things continue in the current trajectory. It’s a messed up place these last few years. I’d hate to be bringing children up there now.

    Which is why it was imperative to remove ease of access to hate sites like Parler and Donalt Trumps twitter feed.

    Like petrol to impressionable people. Q Anon on steroids. Facebook as a massive job to do. They should still be broken up though as they are a threat to democracy the world over.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Jesus it’s like clockwork when ‘but but BLM/Antifa’ is brought up.

    F*ck that. Anything for deflections.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But how do we rate that, the maga hat crowd have been attending rallies etc.. for almost 5 years now with very few violent incidents until this week. BLM protests, the chaz zone etc.. have spent years having riots and lootings and being violent just more spaced out. Theyre both to be condemned.

    Both movements have been ‘mostly peaceful’ but both have committed horrific violent acts under their respective banner, the only fair thing to do is condemn both.

    Did the left not spend 4 years trying to dismantle the electoral college and use #notmypresident , as i said 2 cheeks of the same arse

    A not my president hashtag is equivalent to seizing control of most important state building in the country to overrule an election on the behalf of a wannabe tyrant? There's nothing anti democratic about moving away from from electoral colleges via the political framework.... It was first attempted in the sixties iirc. But sure that's comparable to plans to hold politicians hostage, possibly even kill them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    joe40 wrote: »
    Only one group is backed and supported
    Backed? With what? A few videos short enough to be tik toks? Meanwhile BLM and Antifa have had billions of dollars in funding for the last 6 months, buses of resources hand delivered to them, protections from the mainstream news and every major social media and big tech player.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    eggy81 wrote: »
    They’re heading for civil war over there if things continue in the current trajectory. It’s a messed up place these last few years. I’d hate to be bringing children up there now.
    Yes, it could very well happen.
    The divisions are tangible and both sides are armed.
    And that war could spread here too, not as a full-blown war but as civil unrest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,012 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    A not my president hashtag is equivalent to seizing control of most important state building in the country to overrule an election on the behalf of a wannabe tyrant? There's nothing anti democratic about moving away from from electoral colleges via the political framework.... It was first attempted in the sixties iirc. But sure that's comparable to plans to hold politicians hostage, possibly even kill them.



    Not my president hash tag = free speech.

    Smashing in windows of a capital building when law makers are in session and storming the building murdering a police officer in the license = free speech ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Jesus it’s like clockwork when ‘but but BLM/Antifa’ is brought up.

    F*ck that. Anything for deflections.
    It's comparisons.
    You won't find anyone here saying it was right to raid the Capitolium.
    However you will find supporters for the Antifa/BLM actions that happened last summer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,012 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    biko wrote: »
    Yes, it could very well happen.
    The divisions are tangible and both sides are armed.
    And that war could spread here too, not as a full-blown war but as civil unrest.

    It's not spreading here. I'm afraid the majority of Irish people don't subscribe to this crap.

    As you can even see from threads like this you can count the head bangers on 1 hand


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,597 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    biko wrote: »
    It's comparisons.
    You won't find anyone here saying it was right to raid the Capitolium.
    However you will find supporters for the Antifa/BLM actions that happened last summer.

    Maybe read back, we had one last night talking as if they were just strolling in and wanted chat with their local representative.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    listermint wrote: »
    It's not spreading here. I'm afraid the majority of Irish people don't subscribe to this crap.
    Let's hope so.


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