Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Tea drinker

namloc1980 wrote: »

Did you miss the whole storming of the Capitol last week? It was in the news a fair bit. Check it out.

How did I miss it? Show the evidence Trump directed the violence and *storming of the Capitol*

Gregor Samsa

Tea drinker wrote: »

Yet to see evidence of this

Donald Trump Jan. 10, 2021, to the crowd of supporters at the “Save America March” just before he told them to go to Capitol Hill:


"We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal."

“You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can’t let that happen. These are the facts that you won’t hear from the fake news media. It’s all part of the suppression effort. They don’t want to talk about it. They don’t want to talk about it."

“We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

"And after this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. … We are going to the Capitol, and we are going to try and give — the Democrats are hopeless, they are never voting for anything, not even one vote, but we are going to try — give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re try — going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.”

They then went and stormed the capitol. In the middle of this, he released a video calling them Patriots for what they were doing:

"These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long."

namloc1980

mcmoustache wrote: »

With videos and everything. Even featured a cop getting beaten to death with Trump flags.

Well we've had Trump supporters on here claiming that they either simply wanted to speak with Pelosi and Pence, or that it was a spontaneous spur of the moment thing. Given that, it makes sense that they'd start claiming it didn't actually happen at all.

ohnonotgmail

Tea drinker wrote: »

How did I miss it? Show the evidence Trump directed the violence and *storming of the Capitol*

I can't believe that somebody could be so ignorant of recent events. there are page after page on this that you seem to have completely missed. Did you just jump to the last post on the thread and ignore everything before?

Tell me how

Tea drinker wrote: »

Yet to see evidence of this


But don't stop at him, target his family, his followers and their families.
Show how virtuous you are by making them suffer

None so blind as those that will not see.

'They're going to rig it' - Donald Trump
'Stand back and Stand By' - Donald Trump
'They've stolen it' - Donald Trump
'You have to fight' - Donald Trump
'I'll be right there with you' - Donald Trump

Kaybaykwah

Tea drinker wrote: »

How did I miss it? Show the evidence Trump directed the violence and *storming of the Capitol*

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namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

One of the outcomes, if its successful, is that he'd be constitutionally barred from running for President, or indeed any political office, ever again.

Impeachment would not stop him running again

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/11/politics/fact-check-tweet-trump-impeachment-run-2024-secret-service/index.html

Carfacemandog

briany wrote: »

....along with a phone capable of making calls to Newsmax and OANN. NASA officials have said, "This is the one thing we didn't want to happen."

"Donald Trump, who cunningly disguised himself as the White House..." :pac:

Tea drinker

mcmoustache wrote: »

That's quite a stretch. These people were part of a mob trying to prevent the elected leader of the US from being certified by congress so that Trump, who lost the election, could hold on to power.


That's a far cry from wrong-think.

Nope, that was last week, this is next week. These things grow legs... that's the nature of corruption. Another example of corruption could be ...Everyone was OK with the violent riots looting and destruction in local communities supported by the people in the capitol, egged on by people in the capitol, with police removed from the streets by people in the capitol. The anarchy existed for months in some cities, then we turn around and say the seat of democracy is in the capitol. And robbing **** there is not on.

I know there was a protest against the validation, but was it organised from the start to go into the Capitol building, and who was privy to that?
What was trumps knowledge / participation- go and protest or go into the Capitol? Obviously one is 100% OK and one is far from it.
unless there is proof the whole impeachment thing is some variation on a wankfest

Carfacemandog

mcmoustache wrote: »

Which is kind of insane when you think about it. You even see it here. It's come to the point where left/right isn't really what divides people anymore - it's between the informed and the misinformed.

Hold on, you're trying to tell me Bain Capital's own Mitt Romney is NOT a communist?

Yeah, pull the other one comrade. :rolleyes:

Gregor Samsa

Deleted User wrote: »

Impeachment would not stop him running again

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/11/politics/fact-check-tweet-trump-impeachment-run-2024-secret-service/index.html

I think a lot of people misunderstand what impeachment is. It's just addressing charges against a government official - akin to being sent to stand trial. After impeachment, the Senate has to try the accused. It's the outcome of that that would potentially have consequences (he was acquitted last time).

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

Impeachment would not stop him running again

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/11/politics/fact-check-tweet-trump-impeachment-run-2024-secret-service/index.html

If the Impeachment is successful he would be tried in the Senate and if convicted in the Senate can be barred from holding office again. It's literally in the Constitution:

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.

Tea drinker

Deleted User wrote: »

Impeachment would not stop him running again

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/11/politics/fact-check-tweet-trump-impeachment-run-2024-secret-service/index.html

He's too old, and in 4 years he will be old news.

Gregor Samsa

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I think a lot of people misunderstand what impeachment is. It's just addressing charges against a government official - akin to being sent to stand trial. After impeachment, the Senate has to try the accused. It's the outcome of that that would potentially have consequences (he was acquitted last time).

Agreed. I know impeachment is not a big deal in itself, not judgment is highly unlikely

Jin luk

Ron Paul is the next to get the Facebook axe.

Anyone who isn't left wing or left leaning their coming for all.. The nazis where great at censorship these new tech companies are doing exactly that.

namloc1980

Jin luk wrote: »

Ron Paul is the next to get the Facebook axe.

Anyone who isn't left wing or left leaning their coming for all.. The nazis where great at censorship these new tech companies are doing exactly that.

You don't agree that private companies can make their own rules? Because that's what the Republicans believe in.

Jin luk

Jin luk wrote: »

Ron Paul is the next to get the Facebook axe.

Anyone who isn't left wing or left leaning their coming for all.. The nazis where great at censorship these new tech companies are doing exactly that.

Why is Ron Paul getting banned?

Foxtrol

Jin luk wrote: »

Ron Paul is the next to get the Facebook axe.

Anyone who isn't left wing or left leaning their coming for all.. The nazis where great at censorship these new tech companies are doing exactly that.

So you're claiming censoring Nazis is like being a Nazi?

Tea drinker

Foxtrol wrote: »

So you're claiming censoring Nazis is like being a Nazi?

Ron Paul is a Nazi deserving to be banned now? Evidence your honour?

Overheal

briany wrote: »

Repeated use of 'fight' seems like a slam dunk, but, of course, he would undoubtedly claim he was using the word 'fight' as in to 'struggle', 'strive' or 'contend'.

I certainly do not disagree that he used a lot of fiery rhetoric, but I do think that if you accuse him directly of incitement to storm the Capitol, you give him and his lawyers an easy dodge.

Oh so he just meant jihad. Whew.

Sonics2k

Tea drinker wrote: »

Ron Paul is a Nazi deserving to be banned now? Evidence your honour?

Plenty more out there.

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1013817318034563072

Jin luk

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why is Ron Paul getting banned?

He does not seem to know either last thing he posted he says was a publishment of some sort that he's been publishing since the 70s it's on his twitter their going after all Conservative, rupublican and right way accounts twitter has lost millions off accounts due to it and also their share price is crashing.

Gregor Samsa

Jin luk wrote: »

Ron Paul is the next to get the Facebook axe.

Anyone who isn't left wing or left leaning their coming for all.. The nazis where great at censorship these new tech companies are doing exactly that.

Yeah, coz that's exactly what the Nazis did - require people to sign up to terms and conditions when using a product, and then withdraw the services of their products when those terms and conditions were broken. :rolleyes:

Foxtrol

Tea drinker wrote: »

Ron Paul is a Nazi deserving to be banned now? Evidence your honour?

Ron Paul is a guy who has spent his life talking up the free market and being anti-regulation but now is crying tears because a private company believes he repeatedly broke the rules he agreed to when joining the service and has limited his right to post.

Seems like the free market is only good when it is screwing the little guy.

Tea drinker

Tea drinker wrote: »

Ron Paul is a Nazi deserving to be banned now? Evidence your honour?

What he posted certainly looks like pushing anti-semitic propaganda....

Sonics2k

Foxtrol wrote: »

Ron Paul is a guy who has spent his life talking up the free market and being anti-regulation but now is crying tears because a private company believes he repeatedly broke the rules he agreed to when joining the service and has limited his right to post.

Seems like the free market is only good when it is screwing the little guy.

It is a great irony that he's a Libertarian who's pushed for little to no government regulations of corporations for decades now, and he's made a lot of money off of this. Of course when it impacts him it's a problem.

Jin luk

Sonics2k wrote: »

Plenty more out there.

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1013817318034563072

Its a cartoon pic showing a white man, an Asian man a Mexican and a black man? And a communism flag who gets offended by this? Also that tweet is from 2018

Kraftwerk

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What he posted certainly looks like pushing anti-semitic propaganda....

Do you have a link?

jill_valentine

Sonics2k wrote: »

Plenty more out there.

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1013817318034563072

Jaysus

Kraftwerk

Kraftwerk wrote: »

Do you have a link?

Sonic just linked to older stuff he posted that pretty clearly uses anti semitic tropes. Guessing he's in trouble due to frequently posting misinformation though. He was in trouble recently with youtube for corona misinformation. The guy has gone the direction of Alex Jones by looks of things. Poor mite.

https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1341385036961116160?s=19