Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

namloc1980

Here's one of the guys looking to go to the Capitol for a chat last week.

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Kaybaykwah

maebee wrote: »

Tony Schwartz - talk about getting something spot on !

https://twitter.com/FirenzeMike/status/1340351783474892800?s=20

Here is an author who wrote a book The End of History and The Last Man in 1992 who claims at 2min in a talk about his latest book that he mentioned the arrival of Donald Trump as a possible usurper back in the day...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMlG_0DC8E&ab_channel=PoliticsandProse


Incidentally, the Washington DC bookstore Prose and Politics has a ****eload of video talks by authors promoting their books over time; Hilary, Barack, tons of political theorists and journalists on their youtube channel...

A lot of books written about Trump in the last four years are the subject of these talks.

Kaybaykwah

namloc1980 wrote: »

Here's one of the guys looking to go to the Capitol for a chat last week.

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First thing that came to mind is this is the guy who battered that cop with a flagpole...

Overheal

I almost fell out of my seat

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349107765440966656?s=20

namloc1980

Kaybaykwah wrote: »

First thing that came to mind is this is the guy who battered that cop with a flagpole...

He's the guy who beat the policeman with the flagpole.

Quin_Dub

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

So we are blaming him for the sin's of his supporters...Agreed that a sizable minority of his supporters are dangerous, there are some of his supports that wanted to execute a governor in Michigan...With all movements there are fringe groups who act without regard for society such as the group that stormed the capital

Yes - We absolutely are.

The only reason they are riled up about "Stolen Elections" etc. is because he and his GOP lackeys has lied to their faces endlessly for years about the "Radical Left" and how they steal everything and how they were "Coming for your guns" and how they were going to "murder all the babies" and now they were stealing the White House away from them so that they could complete their dastardly takeover.

Had they told the truth and acted in good faith none of those people would have been there , certainly not amped up for battle as they were.

So yes, he and all the others are absolutely categorically complicit in each and every action taken by those people.

ohnonotgmail

Overheal wrote: »

I almost fell out of my seat

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349107765440966656?s=20

Huge if true

For Forks Sake

Overheal wrote: »

I almost fell out of my seat

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349107765440966656?s=20

Talk is very cheap with Mitch, lets see if he follows through before assuming he's had an epiphany

Quin_Dub

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Talk is very cheap with Mitch, lets see if he follows through before assuming he's had an epiphany

Indeed , will believe it when I see it , but as already said - Huge deal if true.

rosser44

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Talk is very cheap with Mitch, lets see if he follows through before assuming he's had an epiphany

More like a large group of GOP donors may have had an epiphany...

tigger123

Mitch saying that is massive.

More than Trump he needs to purge from the party. There's a fair few blind followers hanging about.

Quin_Dub

Cruz Stocky Steak wrote: »

More than Trump he needs to purge from the party. There's a fair few blind followers hanging about.

Yes and no.

There are a few genuine loons - Boebert , Greene , Gohmert etc.

But people like Cruz and Hawley couldn't care less about anything other than chasing the Power and they'll move wherever they think that is.

If they feel the sands shifting away from Trump and his base , they'll be gone without a backward glance.

Kaybaykwah

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Yes and no.

There are a few genuine loons - Boebert , Greene , Gohmert etc.

But people like Cruz and Hawley couldn't care less about anything other than chasing the Power and they'll move wherever they think that is.

If they feel the sands shifting away from Trump and his base , they'll be gone without a backward glance.

Republican House Leader Kevin McCarthy who seemed to disavow Trump on the day of the insurrection went to Taxas on Air Force One today...

everlast75

It's like governing ****ing children...

https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/1349103898578063361?s=19

everlast75

https://twitter.com/MarkWeinerDC/status/1349109835300802561?s=19

namloc1980

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MarkWeinerDC/status/1349109835300802561?s=19

The floodgates are starting to open

theguzman

Isn't this an entirely meaningless affair since it needs a two thirds majority to pass the Senate, the Senate is deadlocked at 50:50 after the Georgia race and the Dems will only assume control with Kamala Harris as VP after Jan 20th. A few GOP Senators may back it but not enough for 2/3's surely?

namloc1980

theguzman wrote: »

Isn't this an entirely meaningless affair since it needs a two thirds majority to pass the Senate, the Senate is deadlocked at 50:50 after the Georgia race and the Dems will only assume control with Kamala Harris as VP after Jan 20th. A few GOP Senators may back it but not enough for 2/3's surely?

Money is a powerful motivator. A lot of corporate donors are pulling the plug so these Republicans will do what's necessary to make sure the money keeps flowing.

threeball

Deleted User wrote: »

Except that's an equally crazy conspiracy theory like the Republican lie about this election.

But Putin is probably falling about laughing, as is Xi. The US is clearly doomed.

No conspiracy about it. Its well documented that Russian involvement swung the 2016 election in trumps favour. Its also well documented how Trump has always been reliant on Russian money to kerp his businesses afloat. And his deference to Putin is wrll documented. Probably the only other leader he hasn't insulted or threatened. Why is that? There's more evidence pointing to it than against.

Cody montana

Wyoming GOP Rep. Liz Cheney, daughter of former VP Dick Cheney, says she will vote to impeach Trump.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1349123660225933313?s=19

everlast75

My guess is McConnell neutered Trump for nearly a week, told him to play ball, keep his mouth shut and he would box off any impeachment.

Then Trump went out and with his first opportunity, poured more petrol on the issue.

McConnell then leaks the story to Maggie that "he hates Trump" and is glad to see the back of him.

That gives the green light for each Senator to endorse impeachment and allows McConnell to put some space between the Reps and Trump.

Trump then knows McConnell is serious and will resign, asking Pence for a pardon.

For Forks Sake

everlast75 wrote: »

My guess is McConnell neutered Trump for nearly a week, told him to play ball, keep his mouth shut and he would box off any impeachment.

Then Trump went out and with his first opportunity, poured more petrol on the issue.

McConnell then leaks the story to Maggie that "he hates Trump" and is glad to see the back of him.

That gives the green light for each Senator to endorse impeachment and allows McConnell to put some space between the Reps and Trump.

Trump then knows McConnell is serious and will resign, asking Pence for a pardon.

Which Pence then refuses to to, as 'God told him'


*hopefully

namloc1980

He'll be the first president to be impeached twice. What a stunning record that is.

maebee

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MarkWeinerDC/status/1349109835300802561?s=19

Rats and sinking ships etc. but this is good news.

everlast75

namloc1980 wrote: »

He'll be the first president to be impeached twice. What a stunning record that is.

He may be the first to be impeached twice and ultimately removed.

If McConnell hates him, as written, he can endorse the conviction with an assurance Trump can never run again...

rosser44

theguzman wrote: »

Isn't this an entirely meaningless affair since it needs a two thirds majority to pass the Senate, the Senate is deadlocked at 50:50 after the Georgia race and the Dems will only assume control with Kamala Harris as VP after Jan 20th. A few GOP Senators may back it but not enough for 2/3's surely?

All that is needed is 2/3 or senators present on the day, not 2/3 of all senators.

theguzman

No President has ever actually been successfully impeached in American History! Would a successful impeachment disbar him from running in 2024? To me it looks like the GOP are afraid he will seek the nomination in 2024 (which he could win), if they expel him from the party he could run indo and destroy the GOP vote handing it to the Dems.

No matter what happens both Obama and Trump will be the puppeteers calling the shots it seems.

fryup

maybe they should just let him see out his term and fade away, by kicking him out they'll make him a martyr for those right wing knuckle-heads :cool: