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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,020 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    The fact Mcconnell is discussing in house about favouring removing Trump and prominent Republicans are backing it. Trump is looking to be in a far more precarious position.

    A;so given the trial will be after Biden gets in Republicans will be more inclined to vote against Trump to keep him from there party


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    everlast75 wrote: »

    Would be amazing if Republicans vote to convict him, but I'll believe it when I see it.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just noticed on the BBC Sheldon Adelson died. One of the last Republican Megadonors. Could be yet another part of the GOP suddenly getting a conscience.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Only takes 10 to vote for conviction and 10 not to show up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    I agree in that he won't be removed, but is being twice impeached a badge he wants to wear?

    Could be said that he is already using it to perpetuate his victimhood and distracted his base supporters from suspicion of him.

    This idea of him not being allowed to run again appears to be much more complicated than first reported.

    I can almost hear him now, "they rigged the election, tried to get rid of me not once but twice by Impeachment", I can see him as the GOP Candidate in 2024 and most likely winning. In the crazy game of politics anything is possible. There will be alot of people severely disappointed with Joe Biden just how Obama disappointed. And even more people who would not back Harris in 2024, (Biden is 1 term he says). And in a potential Trump V Harris race there will be only one winner for me. Lets hope Joe Biden does deliver some of what they promise, end the pandemic and get the US and Global economy back on its feet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Biden Nominee, Kristen Clarke is Joe Biden’s pick to lead the Justice Department’s civil rights division.

    In 1994, while at Harvard Clarke wrote a letter to the Harvard Crimson in her capacity as the president of the Black Students Association. Clarke wanted to explain her views on race science and that is what she did:
    “Please use the following theories and observations to assist you in your search for truth regarding the genetic differences between Blacks and whites.”
    “One: Dr. Richard King reveals that at the core of the human brain is the ‘locus coeruleus,’ which is a structure that is Black, because it contains large amounts of neuro-melanin which is essential for its operation. Two: Black infants sit, stand, crawl and walk sooner than whites. Three: Carol Barnes notes that human mental processes are controlled by melanin–that same chemical which gives Blacks their superior physical and mental abilities. Four: Some scientists have revealed that most whites are unable to produce melanin because their pineal glands are often calcified or non-functioning. Pineal calcification rates with Africans are five to 15 percent, Asians 15 to 25 percent and Europeans 60 to 80 percent. This is the chemical basis for the cultural differences between Blacks and whites. Five: Melanin endows Blacks with greater mental, physical and spiritual abilities — something which cannot be measured based on Eurocentric standards.”

    Clarke says "her job is simple, it’s to end hate..... ‘Melanin Endows Blacks With Greater’ Abilities..... where in history have we heard this type of talk before? But of course this is Joe's priority


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I'm beginning to expect a substantial GOP vote to impeach tomorrow.


    I guess the Republican have discussed this in great detail, so I'd expect the votes to be the same in both chambers.


    No point in the Republicans in Congress voting for impeachment and hanging their colleagues in the Senate out to dry.


    So if they vote to impeach in Congress, is that an indication of how a senate vote would go?


    Anyway, is there even time to hold a trial? I'd imagine lawyers can drag it out until the 20th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Only takes 10 to vote for conviction and 10 not to show up.

    Mittt Romney was the only Republican to vote for impeachment the last time, as far as I recall. Two more have said they will vote to impeach, could 7 more actually grow enough spine to do it? Maybe Murkowski from Alaska?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,809 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 860 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    theguzman wrote: »
    I can almost hear him now, "they rigged the election, tried to get rid of me not once but twice by Impeachment", I can see him as the GOP Candidate in 2024 and most likely winning. In the crazy game of politics anything is possible. There will be alot of people severely disappointed with Joe Biden just how Obama disappointed. And even more people who would not back Harris in 2024, (Biden is 1 term he says). And in a potential Trump V Harris race there will be only one winner for me. Lets hope Joe Biden does deliver some of what they promise, end the pandemic and get the US and Global economy back on its feet.
    Well if he gets convicted in the senate he can't even run for office ever again, so if Mitch is up for it as rumoured then that maybe wouldn't be a problem


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    everlast75 wrote: »

    When Tucker Carlson tweets something similar then it is time to worry for Trump, What a CNN political activist tweets is meaningless really, CNN are not journalism no more than Fox are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    everlast75 wrote: »

    Please oh please, let one of them be Ted Cruz.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Well if he gets convicted in the senate he can't even run for office ever again, so if Mitch is up for it as rumoured then that maybe wouldn't be a problem

    I think it all hinges on Ted Cruz and his allies, will Ted jettison Trump eyeing 2024 for himself? Or will he be thinking of a VP run with Trump? Mike Pence is finished in politics after all this anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Please oh please, let one of them be Ted Cruz.

    Ted Cruz is a US Senator, it is astonishing at how poor the knowledge of US politics is here other than Orange man = bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Please oh please, let one of them be Ted Cruz.

    It would be too much to hope for. I'd love nothing more than to see that cowardly ****weasel get thrown out of congress, however the three members of congress have apparantly been named and old muttonchops isn't one of 'em.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,809 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    theguzman wrote: »
    When Tucker Carlson tweets something similar then it is time to worry for Trump, What a CNN political activist tweets is meaningless really, CNN are not journalism no more than Fox are.

    This the same Tucker Carlson that ate his words after getting a cease and desist from Dominion?

    How many of those did CNN get?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    theguzman wrote: »
    Ted Cruz is a US Senator, it is astonishing at how poor the knowledge of US politics is here other than Orange man = bad.

    Yes, how dare I confuse a senator with a congressman...I should really know better.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mittt Romney was the only Republican to vote for impeachment the last time, as far as I recall. Two more have said they will vote to impeach, could 7 more actually grow enough spine to do it? Maybe Murkowski from Alaska?

    If he does where will the poor trump supporters move to

    https://twitter.com/HawlFN/status/1347336205483040769

    Perhaps Brazil, seems popular with some and reasonably similar trump style mismanagement for leadership.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,630 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    theguzman wrote: »
    I think it all hinges on Ted Cruz and his allies, will Ted jettison Trump eyeing 2024 for himself? Or will he be thinking of a VP run with Trump? Mike Pence is finished in politics after all this anyway.

    Cruz doesn't really matter - He doesn't have any allies in the Senate , No one actually likes him , not even in the GOP.

    McConnell is the key - If he votes to impeach then the numbers will be there , it's as simple as that.

    There is absolutely no chance that McConnell will be on the wrong side on this.

    Whatever way he goes , so goes the result.

    So , if the rumours are true , Trump is toast.

    Given that McConnell or someone speaking for him hasn't denied this leak yet it could actually be true.

    However , I won't believe it until I actually see him cast the vote though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    A repost.. reading those names, one seemed awfully familiar.. say hello to Rep Mo Brooks.. willing to die for a cause my boll0x, revved up the useful idiots, shared info with the coup boys while he sat in a tent/WH watching it upfold..

    https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1347778310495985664?s=19


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,227 ✭✭✭threeball


    theguzman wrote: »
    I can almost hear him now, "they rigged the election, tried to get rid of me not once but twice by Impeachment", I can see him as the GOP Candidate in 2024 and most likely winning. In the crazy game of politics anything is possible. There will be alot of people severely disappointed with Joe Biden just how Obama disappointed. And even more people who would not back Harris in 2024, (Biden is 1 term he says). And in a potential Trump V Harris race there will be only one winner for me. Lets hope Joe Biden does deliver some of what they promise, end the pandemic and get the US and Global economy back on its feet.

    He won't be a GOP candidate but he could run independent which will split the republican vote and consign them to the dustbin for at least a decade if not more. Thats if America doesn't become even more fractious in the meantime at which point I wouldnt rule out serious civil unrest and a move towards a possible split into two or three distinct countries.


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    theguzman wrote: »
    Ted Cruz is a US Senator, it is astonishing at how poor the knowledge of US politics is here other than Orange man = bad.

    This isn't nearly an insult anymore. The orange man has proven himself to be unbelievably bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Cruz doesn't really matter - He doesn't have any allies in the Senate , No one actually likes him , not even in the GOP.

    McConnell is the key - If he votes to impeach then the numbers will be there , it's as simple as that.

    There is absolutely no chance that McConnell will be on the wrong side on this.

    Whatever way he goes , so goes the result.

    So , if the rumours are true , Trump is toast.

    Given that McConnell or someone speaking for him hasn't denied this leak yet it could actually be true.

    However , I won't believe it until I actually see him cast the vote though.

    Its all bluster basically a false flag to see will Trump preempt it with his own Nixon moment and resign to avoid a GOP Civil war.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,630 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    threeball wrote: »
    He won't be a GOP candidate but he could run independent which will split the republican vote and consign them to the dustbin for at least a decade if not more. Thats if America doesn't become even more fractious in the meantime at which point I wouldnt rule out serious civil unrest and a move towards a possible split into two or three distinct countries.

    Trump will never run again , no matter what happens.

    There isn't a chance that his ego could survive the risk of losing a second time , so he simply won't take that risk and go to his grave believing he was robbed.

    If allowed he'll play along so he can keep his PAC open to bilk money off the gullible but when the time finally comes he'll make noises about how the system is so utterly corrupt that there's just no point blah blah blah and not run.

    He'll keep all the donations of course , but he won't run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    This isn't nearly an insult anymore. The orange man has proven himself to be unbelievably bad.

    In my opinion he has proven himself to be greatest President America ever had. He stuck to his word and was honest in everything he did and went on no regime change or illegal wars overseas. He is the toughman leader alot of countries aspire to have and never backs down. One mans hero is another mans villian however. An Alpha male leader who was surprisingly socialistic for a billionaire. If any of these yuppie liberals knew politics they could have seen Trump and the likes of George W. Bush were nearly polar opposites.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Trump will never run again , no matter what happens.

    There isn't a chance that his ego could survive the risk of losing a second time , so he simply won't take that risk and go to his grave believing he was robbed.

    If allowed he'll play along so he can keep his PAC open to bilk money off the gullible but when the time finally comes he'll make noises about how the system is so utterly corrupt that there's just no point blah blah blah and not run.

    He'll keep all the donations of course , but he won't run.

    Well those loans are coming due soon and aren't going to pay themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    If he does where will the poor trump supporters move to

    https://twitter.com/HawlFN/status/1347336205483040769

    Perhaps Brazil, seems popular with some and reasonably similar trump style mismanagement for leadership.

    Brazil.. popular spot for Nazis after WWII so I believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,227 ✭✭✭threeball


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Trump will never run again , no matter what happens.

    There isn't a chance that his ego could survive the risk of losing a second time , so he simply won't take that risk and go to his grave believing he was robbed.

    If allowed he'll play along so he can keep his PAC open to bilk money off the gullible but when the time finally comes he'll make noises about how the system is so utterly corrupt that there's just no point blah blah blah and not run.

    He'll keep all the donations of course , but he won't run.

    If he doesn't run, Ivanka will. Her ego is too big not to take a run at it just like Daddy. And just like him she's a populist **** stirrer who will court these fruitcakes just like he has.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,809 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    theguzman wrote: »
    In my opinion he has proven himself to be greatest President America ever had. He stuck to his word and was honest in everything he did and went on no regime change or illegal wars overseas. He is the toughman leader alot of countries aspire to have and never backs down. One mans hero is another mans villian however. An Alpha male leader who was surprisingly socialistic for a billionaire. If any of these yuppie liberals knew politics they could have seen Trump and the likes of George W. Bush were nearly polar opposites.

    Trump derangement syndrome right there folks.

    Lol


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  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    theguzman wrote: »
    In my opinion he has proven himself to be greatest President America ever had. He stuck to his word and was honest in everything he did and went on no regime change or illegal wars overseas. He is the toughman leader alot of countries aspire to have and never backs down. One mans hero is another mans villian however. An Alpha male leader who was surprisingly socialistic for a billionaire. If any of these yuppie liberals knew politics they could have seen Trump and the likes of George W. Bush were nearly polar opposites.

    This is hilarious, thanks for the laugh before bed.


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