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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Bill Maher giving one of Trump's minions a platform last night I wonder how long before the rest of them start to appear on chat shows and get paid nicely.


    I can see Trump back hosting The Apprentice and talking about his big ratings within a year.

    CNN is probably in talks already for the first post office interview with Trump. Or else CNN will devote a ridiculous amount of time and coverage to his first interview on whatever channel it happens to be.

    US media has no ethics and will do anything for ratings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    CNN is probably in talks already for the first post office interview with Trump. Or else CNN will devote a ridiculous amount of time and coverage to his first interview on whatever channel it happens to be.

    US media has no ethics and will do anything for ratings.
    *Yawn*


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    CNN is probably in talks already for the first post office interview with Trump. Or else CNN will devote a ridiculous amount of time and coverage to his first interview on whatever channel it happens to be.

    US media has no ethics and will do anything for ratings.

    And his first trial?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    CNN is probably in talks already for the first post office interview with Trump. Or else CNN will devote a ridiculous amount of time and coverage to his first interview on whatever channel it happens to be.

    US media has no ethics and will do anything for ratings.

    Any news outlet that doesn't cover the events after Trump leaves office isn't interested in news. The consequences of his actions and his legacy are more than newsworthy.

    Just because you don't like being reminded of his utter unfitness for the office isn't enough of a reason to ignore his news worthiness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yes, they've filed in court for bankruptcy but it appears to be a move orchestrated to escape dissolution in new york over $64M in improper payments to executives. They intend to reincorporate in Texas. So it's not as much to celebrate about yet, as thinking the NRA is no more.

    This kind of Sh1t should lead to the overturning of ‘Citizens United’ the Supreme Court decision that granted Corporations many of the same rights as
    people


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    yagan wrote: »
    51% support overthrowing democracy. The USA is toast for a generation at least.

    Amongst Republican voters, so less than a quarter of the electorate


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    What.Now wrote: »
    What a summary!!

    Imagine a normal person on their death bed with that on their conscience.

    Now imagine that the summary you responded to isn’t even a 10th of all the awful things Trump did in the last 4 years


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    *Yawn*
    Ewwwwww!


  • Registered Users Posts: 60,719 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Amongst Republican voters, so less than a quarter of the electorate

    That is still near to 40 million Americans in a population of 320 million.

    That is a damn lot of people that want to overthrow a democracy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    One thing I think the last several years have shown us that American military and police professionalism is a tad different in reality than how it is portrayed in the movies.

    You know all those images of 6ft 4 guys in all Black swat outfits jogging in unison in to place and snipers climbing the fire exit ladders to the rooftops of nearby buildings with their commanding officer telling them to 'Take the shot Goddamit'.

    That's all Hollywood baby. Or maybe when doing it against barefoot or sandled people thousands of miles away their military prowess has the opportunity to excel.

    Close at home, when faced with people who simultaneously demand the second amendment to protect against a tyrannical government and who also want to overturn a legitimate election, not so much.
    Also, about half of those elite officers are brainwashed cult members who support Trump, and about half of their superiors also support Trump, and more than half of the heads of their departments are either Trump supporters, or were direct Trump appointees chosen mostly for their loyalty more than competence


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    That is still near to 40 million Americans in a population of 320 million.

    That is a damn lot of people that want to overthrow a democracy.

    You'd wonder if we had a survey in Ireland and said if we got rid of abortion, gay marriage, or other hot button conservative issues in return for suspending democracy for ten years and pinky swear to give it back how many people would go for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,169 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    17 sane Republican senators though.
    It's a very big ask.
    They only managed to find 10 Republican Congress members for the house impeachment out of a bigger cesspit.
    Impeachment means nothing if he's just acquitted again in the Senate. It's like successfully tabling the motion of no confidence but getting it defeated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    flazio wrote: »
    17 sane Republican senators though.
    It's a very big ask.
    They only managed to find 10 Republican Congress members for the house impeachment out of a bigger cesspit.
    Impeachment means nothing if he's just acquitted again in the Senate. It's like successfully tabling the motion of no confidence but getting it defeated.
    Don’t need 17 senators to vote for it, just need a bunch of them to get a flat tyre on the way to work that day


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    CNN is probably in talks already for the first post office interview with Trump. Or else CNN will devote a ridiculous amount of time and coverage to his first interview on whatever channel it happens to be.

    US media has no ethics and will do anything for ratings.

    You really took it to heart when trump said the media are the enemy of the people didn't you?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You'd wonder if we had a survey in Ireland and said if we got rid of abortion, gay marriage, or other hot button conservative issues in return for suspending democracy for ten years and pinky swear to give it back how many people would go for it.
    Indeed. In the celebrations in the wake of those referenda it was easy to forget that the majorities involved were small enough. SSM 62% Abortion 66%. A majority yes and personally I was glad, but between 30-40 percent of Irish voters were not so glad. I would say there is quite the conservative streak in Ireland. It's largely avoided by the Irish media and in politics it's fringe, because the parties concerned are too fringe in other ways, but it's there.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,169 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    CNN is probably in talks already for the first post office interview with Trump. Or else CNN will devote a ridiculous amount of time and coverage to his first interview on whatever channel it happens to be.

    US media has no ethics and will do anything for ratings.
    UK isn't much better at times, especially Piers Morgan.

    I reckon he's angling for his own Frost/Nixon moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Forget a CNN interview. Forget a Piers Morgan sit-down.

    Joe Rogan.

    Not just Trump. A panel. A panel consisting of Trump, Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo. Live on PPV.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Any news outlet that doesn't cover the events after Trump leaves office isn't interested in news. The consequences of his actions and his legacy are more than newsworthy.

    Just because you don't like being reminded of his utter unfitness for the office isn't enough of a reason to ignore his news worthiness.

    The oxygen of publicity is what Trump thrives on. It was a key factor in his rise to office.

    Surely it would be better to move on and worry about whatever 100 something something pledge of his successor.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,923 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Indeed. In the celebrations in the wake of those referenda it was easy to forget that the majorities involved were small enough. SSM 62% Abortion 66%. A majority yes and personally I was glad, but between 30-40 percent of Irish voters were not so glad. I would say there is quite the conservative streak in Ireland. It's largely avoided by the Irish media and in politics it's fringe, because the parties concerned are too fringe in other ways, but it's there.

    They're pretty sizeable though. In the UK, we saw seismic constitutional change imposed on the basis of a 52% majority which wasn't defined until years after the vote.

    I don't think the "We won, you lost. Get over it". Mentality exists in countries which are used to proportional representation and regular referenda like Ireland. The UK and the US have winner take all systems.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,313 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    It'll be hard to get 17 Republican senators to go against Trump due to:

    a) not having any spine as a group
    b) Trump's continued popularity among Republican voters
    c) fear for the safety of their families.

    Interesting times ahead though. It's really the last thing that Biden needs at the start of his administration.


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    briany wrote: »
    Forget a CNN interview. Forget a Piers Morgan sit-down.

    Joe Rogan.

    Not just Trump. A panel. A panel consisting of Trump, Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo. Live on PPV.

    Rogan is a terrible interviewer. He just sits there saying "that's fascinating" over and over, or talking about things he believes in. He rarely challenges the views of his guests. Awful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Don’t need 17 senators to vote for it, just need a bunch of them to get a flat tyre on the way to work that day
    speaking of suspending democracy


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    flazio wrote: »
    17 sane Republican senators though.
    It's a very big ask.
    They only managed to find 10 Republican Congress members for the house impeachment out of a bigger cesspit.
    Impeachment means nothing if he's just acquitted again in the Senate. It's like successfully tabling the motion of no confidence but getting it defeated.
    The fewer republicans who vote against him in the senate, the easier it should be to get democrat voters out in 4 years time. Then have plenty of other cases against Trump in the courts around the country and the campaign against any republican who supported him just writes itself.

    Once they don't start another insurrection, don't worry about idiots being idiots. Aim for the people more grounded in reality and get their votes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Rogan is a terrible interviewer. He just sits there saying "that's fascinating" over and over, or talking about things he believes in. He rarely challenges the views of his guests. Awful.

    'Oh let me fact check that'
    Random dude in the corner Googles what Rogan said
    'Oh look here's a headline saying exactly the same thing'
    'well that's confirmed true then'

    He is to journalism what Joseph Fritzl is to childcare


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Rogan is a terrible interviewer. He just sits there saying "that's fascinating" over and over, or talking about things he believes in. He rarely challenges the views of his guests. Awful.

    It's not really Rogan's style. By his own admission he's a meathead who doesn't know all that much.

    Besides, that's why I'd have Jones and Bravo on as well. Bravo would ask Trump for 3 solid hours where are the aliens and possibly try to choke Trump out at some point. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭yagan


    robinph wrote: »
    The fewer republicans who vote against him in the senate, the easier it should be to get democrat voters out in 4 years time. Then have plenty of other cases against Trump in the courts around the country and the campaign against any republican who supported him just writes itself.

    Once they don't start another insurrection, don't worry about idiots being idiots. Aim for the people more grounded in reality and get their votes.
    Plus insurrections in Trump states will only lead to civilian flight, a hollowing out of that voter base and a forever mental attachment of Trump with property devaluation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    briany wrote: »
    It's not really Rogan's style. By his own admission he's a meathead who doesn't know all that much.

    Besides, that's why I'd have Jones and Bravo on as well. Bravo would ask Trump for 3 solid hours where are the aliens and possibly try to choke Trump out at some point. :pac:

    I'd rather watch a Trump rally than what's described there


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    As long as they could persuade Trump to smoke some DMT I'd be all for it


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Bill Maher giving one of Trump's minions a platform last night I wonder how long before the rest of them start to appear on chat shows and get paid nicely.


    I can see Trump back hosting The Apprentice and talking about his big ratings within a year.

    Trump will be on Ellen soon enough. The US seems more than happy to rehab there war criminals and terrorists.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    speaking of suspending democracy

    I didn’t mean they should have their tyres slashed, I meant they can find any old excuse to not show up on the day so they can allow the impeachment to go through without pinning a target on their back by physically voting for it


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