Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

ohnonotgmail

namloc1980 wrote: »

When will Kamala Harris' replacement take his seat?

not until after the inauguration

briany

namloc1980 wrote: »

He got well well beaten in the Electoral College. Trump claimed his similar win in 2016 was a landslide and a massive victory. The fact that Biden got 1 more vote in the electoral college than he did is killing him.

Trump also increased his vote count by a bit over 10 million, making him the most popular Republican presidential candidate in history, and bucked the polls to lose states by margins much less than polls had suggested prior to the election. I think it was either in Michigan or Wisconsin that one poll had him down by 17 points. This is just to illustrate that Trump has a kind of support that pollsters have found it difficult to accurately quantify.

For Forks Sake

[Deleted User] wrote: »

i know he only shouting into an echo chamber/playing to an audience etc

But thats seriously fcuked up to read,that someone has to appear that extreme to gain notice

That's only the tip of the iceberg with him, he's an absolute scumbag.

Dressoutlet

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Thoughts and prayers, this lad is a particularly revolting individual

https://twitter.com/jdpoc/status/1350569607300583428?s=19

Do people actually value their blood lines. I mean i love my kids but I don't think of them as my blood line. If they died tomorrow I'd never think my bloodline was gone, just about them and what they could have been.

Also I wish they would put as much effort into There Their and They're as they do into connecting every single thing in the world to elite cannibals or whatever.

Smee_Again

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Also I wish they would put as much effort into There Their and They're as they do into connecting every single thing in the world to elite cannibals or whatever.

If they understood the difference they likely wouldn’t believe the nonsense they’re currently posting.

Dressoutlet

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Do people actually value their blood lines. I mean i love my kids but I don't think of them as my blood line. If they died tomorrow I'd never think my bloodline was gone, just about them and what they could have been.

Also I wish they would put as much effort into There Their and They're as they do into connecting every single thing in the world to elite cannibals or whatever.

You're going to love this then

https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/497209638728003584?s=20/

BorneTobyWilde

VinLieger wrote: »

And yet every day more of those involved in breaking the law are saying they were simply doing what he told them to

Told them how, are you saying in private phone calls ect.... All I know is that in the speech it's very clear there is no talk of violence, and plenty of talk of cheering on and peacefully protesting, and voting out those weak republicans.
Those arrested are nutjobs, and need locking up, they hear voices in their heads. I don't see how they used this speech to impeach him, did they even read the speech. What I see it democrats suffering ptsd and impeaching Trump on the back of what others did.



It's like the word '' coup'' someone on twitter used it on the day, it was shared countless times, media picked up on it, started using it too, and broadcasted it to millions who simple ate up what they were spewing.
A coup, where gun lovers forgot their guns, and on the front lines were Auntie Betty, and Uncle Travis .



This is the world we live in, where we are told what to believe. I see the reality, some nutjobs stormed the capitol building, no one told them too, they did it of their own accord, and Auntie Betty and Uncle Travis was caught up in the moment, marched down there thinking it was just a protest but ended up as sheep all heading in the one direction, inside, or on to the grounds of the capitol building.
Walked in, walked out.

Arrest the nutjobs, section them, or jail them. Watching too many movies or playing too many video games, seeing and hearing what they want to see and hear and acting on it.

MeMen2_MoRi_

I can't believe this, I was told they were there for a cup of tea and a chat #fakenews

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1350579209639522304?s=19

jill_valentine

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Do people actually value their blood lines. I mean i love my kids but I don't think of them as my blood line. If they died tomorrow I'd never think my bloodline was gone, just about them and what they could have been.

People with no empathy or who've conditioned themselves out of it tend to take it for granted everyone thinks exactly like they do because they can't imagine otherwise.

It's something you see Trumpists do constantly, they assume with complete confidence that even their "enemies" think like they do, just from the perspective of their "team".

Think about how many sulky posters we had here talking about how disappointed the lefties here would be with their "hero" Joe Biden - you ever heard anybody here talk about Biden in those terms? How many accuse lefties of being brainwashed by CNN, even though nobody on the left relies on CNN alone as gospel the way the right huffs Fox and little else. Or the classic "well, if you get (right wing guy who harrasses women) is cancelled for harrassing women, let's see how you like it when (Hollywood Guy who harrasses women) is cancelled too!" - okay? Yes?

I dislike Trumpists for a million reasons, but I understand their worldview and value system is not just mine with different prizes, we have fundamentally different ways of engaging with the world. The same doesn't apply in reverse.

So this is clearly something this guy fixates about and takes it for granted everyone else does too.

MeMen2_MoRi_

"Voting out weak republicans"

The republicans who respect the constitution, respect the court's who have went against the POS who has propagated a lie...

Yeah, he was all for the people who would go along with his bullsh!t lie and totally against anyone who was against his lie!!

MeMen2_MoRi_

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Told them how, are you saying in private phone calls ect.... All I know is that in the speech it's very clear there is no talk of violence, and plenty of talk of cheering on and peacefully protesting, and voting out those weak republicans.
Those arrested are nutjobs, and need locking up, they hear voices in their heads. I don't see how they used this speech to impeach him, did they even read the speech. What I see it democrats suffering ptsd and impeaching Trump on the back of what others did.



It's like the word '' coup'' someone on twitter used it on the day, it was shared countless times, media picked up on it, started using it too, and broadcasted it to millions who simple ate up what they were spewing.
A coup, where gun lovers forgot their guns, and on the front lines were Auntie Betty, and Uncle Travis .



This is the world we live in, where we are told what to believe. I see the reality, some nutjobs stormed the capitol building, no one told them too, they did it of their own accord, and Auntie Betty and Uncle Travis was caught up in the moment, marched down there thinking it was just a protest but ended up as sheep all heading in the one direction, inside, or on to the grounds of the capitol building.
Walked in, walked out.

Arrest the nutjobs, section them, or jail them. Watching too many movies or playing too many video games, seeing and hearing what they want to see and hear and acting on it.

Was the election stolen?

Sweetemotion

jill_valentine wrote: »

People with no empathy or who've conditioned themselves out of it tend to take it for granted everyone thinks exactly like they do because they can't imagine otherwise.

It's something you see Trumpists do constantly, they assume with complete confidence that even their "enemies" think like they do, just from the perspective of their "team".

Think about how many sulky posters we had here talking about how disappointed the lefties here would be with their "hero" Joe Biden - you ever heard anybody here talk about Biden in those terms? How many accuse lefties of being brainwashed by CNN, even though nobody on the left relies on CNN alone as gospel the way the right huffs Fox and little else. Or the classic "well, if you get (right wing guy who harrasses women) is cancelled for harrassing women, let's see how you like it when (Hollywood Guy who harrasses women) is cancelled too!" - okay? Yes?

I dislike Trumpists for a million reasons, but I understand their worldview and value system is not just mine with different prizes, we have fundamentally different ways of engaging with the world. The same doesn't apply in reverse.

So this is clearly something this guy fixates about and takes it for granted everyone else does too.

That whole post is an oxymoron.

MeMen2_MoRi_

borneTobyWilde, you keep posting nonsense, disappearing when a lot of people respond to your post's, then reappear with more nonsense..

Muahahaha

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they dont control the senate just yet. the two new senators from georgia are yet to be seated.

yeah but if the Dems go with their suggested plan of allowing Biden his first 100 days to deal with the virus and then go ahead with the impeachment trial after that then they will have control of the Senate at that point. Was just wondering would they put Trump himself in the witness box to testify, it would make for gripping tv if they did but its also a double edged sword that would give him a platform.

briany wrote: »

If it gets messy this time around, the security forces needn't bother even showing up at the Capitol next time around, given that they're evidently useless.

But anyway, there is always going to be a few nutters trying to get in, and probably a few more than that this time around. I don't think that, by itself, is indicative of much in the way of a messy inauguration day. You would think FBI and NSA agents are working overtime to monitor and pre-emptively nullify credible threats.

I think Washington itself will be fine as there is a ring of steel thrown around it now with some 20,000 troops guarding the Capitol area until the inauguration. More problematic will be federal buildings and legislatures in other states and especially the threat of a lone wolf planting a bomb. The FBI has said theyve seen Trump supporters trying to organise armed protests in over 50 cities, they will know what to expect and where because they're openly talking about it online. But its a lone wolf who could cause serious damage and the intelligence services are very limited in identifying who they are before the event.

BorneTobyWilde

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

The election wasnt stolen borneTobyWilde..

What was the point of holding the rally?

States changed rules, by the letter of the law it's unlawful. But allowed to stand. That's the fraud, that and mail in ballots, where no pride is taken in the vote cast, but the vote is signed and will count.

You have 5 ballots going into a house where history shows only one person ever voted in the house, the mom, but now mom has 5 ballots, one for her, one for hubby, one for uncle bob who lives in the basement , one for son , one for daughter. She fills them all out, ticks all the boxes.
Goes to hubby, sign this, ''**** em both'' replies hubby.. sign it or get your own dinner, boom it's signed.
Uncle Bob in basement, half drunk watching porn, sign this Bob! So drunk he doesn't know what he's doing.Signs it.
Son is playing video games, '' sign then or the internet it getting turned off'' boom it's signed.
Daughter is away, but countless forms with her signature on it, mom copies it, PERFECTLY, boom signed.
Mom gets in car and throws her 5 ballots out the window of her moving car into the plastic dustbin a guy in the street is holding. Welcome to America 2020



I think all the votes were counted correctly, but I KNOW there was zero pride taken in a lot of them, as they were from people who never vote, it's just that democrats were flooded with ballots, and 5 ballots went into a house, and 5 came out. When history shows only the mom votes.

Is that fraud, or opportunistic

jill_valentine

jill_valentine wrote: »

People with no empathy or who've conditioned themselves out of it tend to take it for granted everyone thinks exactly like they do because they can't imagine otherwise.

It's something you see Trumpists do constantly, they assume with complete confidence that even their "enemies" think like they do, just from the perspective of their "team".

Think about how many sulky posters we had here talking about how disappointed the lefties here would be with their "hero" Joe Biden - you ever heard anybody here talk about Biden in those terms? How many accuse lefties of being brainwashed by CNN, even though nobody on the left relies on CNN alone as gospel the way the right huffs Fox and little else. Or the classic "well, if you get (right wing guy who harrasses women) is cancelled for harrassing women, let's see how you like it when (Hollywood Guy who harrasses women) is cancelled too!" - okay? Yes?

I dislike Trumpists for a million reasons, but I understand their worldview and value system is not just mine with different prizes, we have fundamentally different ways of engaging with the world. The same doesn't apply in reverse.

So this is clearly something this guy fixates about and takes it for granted everyone else does too.

Blood lines and the purity of them are a big thing for some people of certain political persuasions/world view,.

People might say that they have mental health issues or are just a bit thick, and while that is certainly the case for some of them, others are just scrotes and there isn't any cure for being one of those.

Lucifer

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Murder, looting, and arson, bail them out!!!!


To a broken window in the capitol building. JAIL THEM FOR LIFE

I was not looking for you to quote trumps speech. I can see that myself

I was referring to your comment, "To a broken window in the capitol building."

Do you stand by that comment?

https://twitter.com/CuomoPrimeTime/status/1350269931930218496?s=20

astrofool

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

States changed rules, by the letter of the law it's unlawful. But allowed to stand. That's the fraud, that and mail in ballots, where no pride is taken in the vote cast, but the vote is signed and will count.

You have 5 ballots going into a house where history shows only one person ever voted in the house, the mom, but now mom has 5 ballots, one for her, one for hubby, one for uncle bob who lives in the basement , one for son , one for daughter. She fills them all out, ticks all the boxes.
Goes to hubby, sign this, ''**** em both'' replies hubby.. sign it or get your own dinner, boom it's signed.
Uncle Bob in basement, half drunk watching porn, sign this Bob! So drunk he doesn't know what he's doing.Signs it.
Son is playing video games, '' sign then or the internet it getting turned off'' boom it's signed.
Daughter is away, but countless forms with her signature on it, mom copies it, PERFECTLY, boom signed.
Mom gets in car and throws her 5 ballots out the window of her moving car into the plastic dustbin a guy in the street is holding. Welcome to America 2020

I think all the votes were counted correctly, but I KNOW there was zero pride taken in a lot of them, as they were from people who never vote, it's just that democrats were flooded with ballots, and 5 ballots went into a house, and 5 came out. When history shows only the mom votes.

Is that fraud, or opportunistic

You've just repeated a bunch of debunked claims, and claims that were specifically either ruled as not happened by GOP courts, or specifically not argued for by GOP lawyers in the courts.

You're basing your entire belief system on lies built upon lies, and it's actually pretty sad to see.

Lucifer

TODAY

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

States changed rules, by the letter of the law it's unlawful. But allowed to stand. That's the fraud, that and mail in ballots, where no pride is taken in the vote cast, but the vote is signed and will count.

You have 5 ballots going into a house where history shows only one person ever voted in the house, the mom, but now mom has 5 ballots, one for her, one for hubby, one for uncle bob who lives in the basement , one for son , one for daughter. She fills them all out, ticks all the boxes.
Goes to hubby, sign this, ''**** em both'' replies hubby.. sign it or get your own dinner, boom it's signed.
Uncle Bob in basement, half drunk watching porn, sign this Bob! So drunk he doesn't know what he's doing.Signs it.
Son is playing video games, '' sign then or the internet it getting turned off'' boom it's signed.
Daughter is away, but countless forms with her signature on it, mom copies it, PERFECTLY, boom signed.
Mom gets in car and throws her 5 ballots out the window of her moving car into the plastic dustbin a guy in the street is holding. Welcome to America 2020

12/12/20

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

The only '' fraud '' that happened was 5 ballots going into a house, and 5 coming back out as votes when history shows only the mom ever votes.
But in her own home the mom can fill in 5 ballots, and then get her husband who could not give a flying fck about Trump of Biden to sign his Ballot, and get 3 kids who are in basement playing Forenite to sign their ballots too.

Boom 5 votes, validated with a signature, and MUST be counted. All above board and correct. But in reality 4 people in that house would never have got up and stood in line in the wind and rain to vote for a man who doesn't know what day it is, or who he is even running against.

You already said the exact same thing, Is that the best you have?

briany

astrofool wrote: »

You've just repeated a bunch of debunked claims, and claims that were specifically either ruled as not happened by GOP courts, or specifically not argued for by GOP lawyers in the courts.

You're basing your entire belief system on lies built upon lies, and it's actually pretty sad to see.

That's what happens when you get all your facts from FB, Twitter and xtremepatrioticnews.com.

Quin_Dub

All the people being arrested getting their lawyers to ask Trump for a Pardon saying that they "responded to the Presidents request" etc.

You've got to imagine that those statements will be read into the testimony at his impeachment trial..

Just further validates the incitement charge.

astrofool

briany wrote: »

That's what happens when you get all your facts from FB, Twitter and xtremepatrioticnews.com.

What can you do when people believe things that are being said by people who admit that the things they said were lies (then repeat them again anyway). I mean, is it down to a world view that can't change, thus only information that supports that view is allowed (to the contrary of all evidence and rationality), is the person just beyond help?

MeMen2_MoRi_

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

States changed rules, by the letter of the law it's unlawful. But allowed to stand. That's the fraud, that and mail in ballots, where no pride is taken in the vote cast, but the vote is signed and will count.

You have 5 ballots going into a house where history shows only one person ever voted in the house, the mom, but now mom has 5 ballots, one for her, one for hubby, one for uncle bob who lives in the basement , one for son , one for daughter. She fills them all out, ticks all the boxes.
Goes to hubby, sign this, ''**** em both'' replies hubby.. sign it or get your own dinner, boom it's signed.
Uncle Bob in basement, half drunk watching porn, sign this Bob! So drunk he doesn't know what he's doing.Signs it.
Son is playing video games, '' sign then or the internet it getting turned off'' boom it's signed.
Daughter is away, but countless forms with her signature on it, mom copies it, PERFECTLY, boom signed.
Mom gets in car and throws her 5 ballots out the window of her moving car into the plastic dustbin a guy in the street is holding. Welcome to America 2020



I think all the votes were counted correctly, but I KNOW there was zero pride taken in a lot of them, as they were from people who never vote, it's just that democrats were flooded with ballots, and 5 ballots went into a house, and 5 came out. When history shows only the mom votes.

Is that fraud, or opportunistic

"States changed rules, by the letter of the law it's unlawful. But allowed to stand."

Please let the above sink in... Remember to use the FACT that there has been 60+ plus court cases fought, and the sum of winning for Donnie is the definition of what 6 feet is in an enclosed area during a pandemic..

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

All the people being arrested getting their lawyers to ask Trump for a Pardon saying that they "responded to the Presidents request" etc.

You've got to imagine that those statements will be read into the testimony at his impeachment trial..

Just further validates the incitement charge.

Would be interesting to see if they make it into the official testimony all right, but the "I was only following orders" defense isn't going to help their own cases.

Kermit.de.frog

Hawley and Guiliani are at the White House.

Speculation as to why. Pardons maybe? I guess something mad is about to drop.

briany

briany wrote: »

Trump also increased his vote count by a bit over 10 million, making him the most popular Republican presidential candidate in history, and bucked the polls to lose states by margins much less than polls had suggested prior to the election. I think it was either in Michigan or Wisconsin that one poll had him down by 17 points. This is just to illustrate that Trump has a kind of support that pollsters have found it difficult to accurately quantify.

It's interesting in that it's inconsistent geographically. I never thought Georgia was really in play even though it was within a percent or two in the polls. It seems the midwest has become much harder to poll while in the South they've actually been pretty much bang-on.

BorneTobyWilde

Lucifer wrote: »

I was not looking for you to quote trumps speech. I can see that myself

I was referring to your comment, "To a broken window in the capitol building."

Do you stand by that comment?

https://twitter.com/CuomoPrimeTime/status/1350269931930218496?s=20

Those involved in damage , entering, or violence have no excuse. All on tape, no defending that.

jimmycrackcorm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

You have 5 ballots going into a house where history shows only one person ever voted in the house, the mom, but now mom has 5 ballots, one for her, one for hubby, one for uncle bob who lives in the basement , one for son , one for daughter. She fills them all out, ticks all the boxes.
Goes to hubby, sign this, ''**** em both'' replies hubby.. sign it or get your own dinner, boom it's signed.
Uncle Bob in basement, half drunk watching porn, sign this Bob! So drunk he doesn't know what he's doing.Signs it.
Son is playing video games, '' sign then or the internet it getting turned off'' boom it's signed.
Daughter is away, but countless forms with her signature on it, mom copies it, PERFECTLY, boom signed.
Mom gets in car and throws her 5 ballots out the window of her moving car into the plastic dustbin a guy in the street is holding. Welcome to America 2020

You've just explained how Trump got all those extra votes in this election that he didn't get in 2016.

Gunmonkey

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

States changed rules, by the letter of the law it's unlawful. But allowed to stand. That's the fraud, that and mail in ballots, where no pride is taken in the vote cast, but the vote is signed and will count.

You have 5 ballots going into a house where history shows only one person ever voted in the house, the mom, but now mom has 5 ballots, one for her, one for hubby, one for uncle bob who lives in the basement , one for son , one for daughter. She fills them all out, ticks all the boxes.
Goes to hubby, sign this, ''**** em both'' replies hubby.. sign it or get your own dinner, boom it's signed.
Uncle Bob in basement, half drunk watching porn, sign this Bob! So drunk he doesn't know what he's doing.Signs it.
Son is playing video games, '' sign then or the internet it getting turned off'' boom it's signed.
Daughter is away, but countless forms with her signature on it, mom copies it, PERFECTLY, boom signed.
Mom gets in car and throws her 5 ballots out the window of her moving car into the plastic dustbin a guy in the street is holding. Welcome to America 2020

I think all the votes were counted correctly, but I KNOW there was zero pride taken in a lot of them, as they were from people who never vote, it's just that democrats were flooded with ballots, and 5 ballots went into a house, and 5 came out. When history shows only the mom votes.

Is that fraud, or opportunistic

Prove!

It!

And not vague, generalising handy-wavy, type excuses or MSM soundbite nonsense. I want exact, specific data proving your ascertation.....seeing as you are so adamant about Donald Trumps exact wording in his Jan 6th speech I am sure your pride would no stomach you making an unsubstantiated claim such as this!

Since you are whinging on about Donald Trumps exact words on Jan 6th,

namloc1980

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

States changed rules, by the letter of the law it's unlawful. But allowed to stand. That's the fraud, that and mail in ballots, where no pride is taken in the vote cast, but the vote is signed and will count.

You have 5 ballots going into a house where history shows only one person ever voted in the house, the mom, but now mom has 5 ballots, one for her, one for hubby, one for uncle bob who lives in the basement , one for son , one for daughter. She fills them all out, ticks all the boxes.
Goes to hubby, sign this, ''**** em both'' replies hubby.. sign it or get your own dinner, boom it's signed.
Uncle Bob in basement, half drunk watching porn, sign this Bob! So drunk he doesn't know what he's doing.Signs it.
Son is playing video games, '' sign then or the internet it getting turned off'' boom it's signed.
Daughter is away, but countless forms with her signature on it, mom copies it, PERFECTLY, boom signed.
Mom gets in car and throws her 5 ballots out the window of her moving car into the plastic dustbin a guy in the street is holding. Welcome to America 2020



I think all the votes were counted correctly, but I KNOW there was zero pride taken in a lot of them, as they were from people who never vote, it's just that democrats were flooded with ballots, and 5 ballots went into a house, and 5 came out. When history shows only the mom votes.

Is that fraud, or opportunistic

No, I think it's called bullshit.