Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To use an example, we've faced covid this year and it's largely not become a divisive issue. It's a pretty small minority that try and fail to do so. Trump actively made it divisive, there was never any unity about getting through the crisis, never encouraging people to take personal responsibility and be careful.

True enough. He always had one eye on the election(naturally enough) but he should have tried to bring a unified front in tackling the virus. Maybe he genuinely thought it would fizzle out. Once it got out of hand he wouldn't change his stance as again one eye on the election.

I would imagine that some of his base would be the ones who wouldn't wear masks, downplay the virus, complain about government reach etc.

In short he backed himself into a corner and ended up politicising the virus.

But from day one of his presidency it was an us v them approach.
Fox news, CNN etc all fed into this too. Then everyday citizens bought into it and it ended up the divided states of America we see today

namloc1980

PadraigPenys wrote: »

The amount of saddo selfcongratulation that happens in this thread on every page is remarkable. What an echo chamber lol

You should have been here the morning after the election. The self-congraulations from the Trump crowd was off the scale. They have disappeared since except for the occasional rereg......oh.

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

True enough. He always had one eye on the election(naturally enough) but he should have tried to bring a unified front in tackling the virus. Maybe he genuinely thought it would fizzle out. Once it got out of hand he wouldn't change his stance as again one eye on the election.

I would imagine that some of his base would be the ones who wouldn't wear masks, downplay the virus, complain about government reach etc.

In short he backed himself into a corner and ended up politicising the virus.

But from day one of his presidency it was an us v them approach.
Fox news, CNN etc all fed into this too. Then everyday citizens bought into it and it ended up the divided states of America we see today

Based on the Woodward interview he was well aware of how far l deadly it was gonna be. He only ever cared about the election result and couldn't care less about the deaths as long as he won. So no, it was not the tv networks fault. He was always creating a dreadful narrative. His inauguration speech basically portrayed the US as a deadly wasteland that he was gonna fix.

He is evidence of what happens when a narcissistic idiot ends up in the Whitehouse by feeding public fears. It was always about him and never any real goal besides getting a second term. The month of his inauguration, he had already started taking donations for 2020. Years of rallies that were designed to divide the public. Now he's pardoning all of his friends... You can't blame this **** on the media.

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Based on the Woodward interview he was well aware of how far l deadly it was gonna be. He only ever cared about the election result and couldn't care less about the deaths as long as he won. So no, it was not the tv networks fault. He was always creating a dreadful narrative. His inauguration speech basically portrayed the US as a deadly wasteland that he was gonna fix.

He is evidence of what happens when a narcissistic idiot ends up in the Whitehouse by feeding public fears. It was always about him and never any real goal besides getting a second term. The month of his inauguration, he had already started taking donations for 2020. Years of rallies that were designed to divide the public. Now he's pardoning all of his friends... You can't blame this **** on the media.

I didn't. He is responsible for his own actions.

The media comment is related to how the common citizen interprets his actions.
Fox gave one narrative
CNN gave another

Most people watch one or the other. Confirmation bias

ExMachina1000

PadraigPenys wrote: »

Are you even American? Why do you care so much? The whole lot of ye sound like trauma victims.

I'm from Mobile,Alabama

namloc1980

PadraigPenys wrote: »

Are you even American? Why do you care so much? The whole lot of ye sound like trauma victims.

As you are new here maybe you should read up on what discussion forums are about and that people discuss various topics on them.

PadraigPenys

PadraigPenys wrote: »

Are you even American? Why do you care so much? The whole lot of ye sound like trauma victims.

You definitely dye your hair I'd say, lots in common with Trump. Welcome to the site!

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I didn't. He is responsible for his own actions.

The media comment is related to how the common citizen interprets his actions.
Fox gave one narrative
CNN gave another

Most people watch one or the other. Confirmation bias

Has his behaviour been misrepresented? That was all him and it was reported on...

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You definitely dye your hair I'd say, lots in common with Trump. Welcome to the site!


Has his behaviour been misrepresented? That was all him and it was reported on...

You are not getting it at all

Faugheen

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You are not getting it at all

Doesn’t help that you keep moving the goalposts.

hotmail.com

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To use an example, we've faced covid this year and it's largely not become a divisive issue. It's a pretty small minority that try and fail to do so. Trump actively made it divisive, there was never any unity about getting through the crisis, never encouraging people to take personal responsibility and be careful.

That is about covid.

I'm talking about an article saying that Biden can unite America.

Isn't this just complete nonsense? No leader unites a country. That would be weird if they could.

It's part of the wishy washy discourse used by American leaning journalists when speaking on America.

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

That is about covid.

I'm talking about an article saying that Biden can unite America.

Isn't this just complete nonsense? No leader unites a country. That would be weird if they could.

It's part of the wishy washy discourse used by American leaning journalists when speaking on America.

Trump has certainly split a country like it has never been before so it must be possible for the opposite to happen.

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

That is about covid.

I'm talking about an article saying that Biden can unite America.

Isn't this just complete nonsense? No leader unites a country. That would be weird if they could.

It's part of the wishy washy discourse used by American leaning journalists when speaking on America.

It's a president managing to further divide the country during a national crisis, there's something seriously wrong with leadership...

Billy Mays

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I didn't. He is responsible for his own actions.

The media comment is related to how the common citizen interprets his actions.
Fox gave one narrative
CNN gave another

Most people watch one or the other. Confirmation bias

Fox averaged 3.6m viewers in 2020, CNN 1.8m

Most people watch neither

Overheal

namloc1980 wrote: »

It's a well established pattern now for the last 30 years that Republican presidents run the economy into the ground (Bush I, Bush II, Trump), which then requires a Democrat president to turn things around (Clinton, Obama and now Biden).

It’s almost like they do it on purpose to profit on the wave of recovery

Overheal

hotmail.com wrote: »

That is about covid.

I'm talking about an article saying that Biden can unite America.

Isn't this just complete nonsense? No leader unites a country. That would be weird if they could.

It's part of the wishy washy discourse used by American leaning journalists when speaking on America.

It happens. Bush United the country after 9/11. Didn’t last out to the rollout off the Iraq war or anything, but he did enjoy almost universal support overnight.

ExMachina1000

Billy Mays wrote: »

Fox averaged 3.6m viewers in 2020, CNN 1.8m

Most people watch neither

My point is that there are two sides. People who like trump and people who hate Trump.

There is no middle ground or compromise anymore

The media played a part in that with bias reporting one side or the other

Overheal

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

My point is that there are two sides. People who like trump and people who hate Trump.

There is no middle ground or compromise anymore

The media played a part in that with bias reporting one side or the other

Just the part of the messenger for the most part. Trump produced his own scandals.

duploelabs

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

My point is that there are two sides. People who like trump and people who hate Trump.

There is no middle ground or compromise anymore

The media played a part in that with bias reporting one side or the other

What steps did trump take to cross the divide? To make the deal? Because that's how American politics work, Biden is famed for making bipartisan deals

hotmail.com

Overheal wrote: »

It happens. Bush United the country after 9/11. Didn’t last out to the rollout off the Iraq war or anything, but he did enjoy almost universal support overnight.

A lesson on how damaging it is not to have a strong opposition.

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

A lesson on how damaging it is not to have a strong opposition.

the democrats controlled the house for much of the first half of Bush's first term. he had to work across the aisle to get things done. actually work with people instead of constantly attacking people like trump. I know that concept is probably hard for you to understand as a trump supporter.

Timberrrrrrrr

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

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Explain yourself

I thought it was pretty self explanatory.


I'll get some popcorn:pac:

duploelabs

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I thought it was pretty self explanatory.


I'll get some popcorn:pac:

(turns off trading places)

ExMachina1000

He changed his mind and deleted it it seems

Timberrrrrrrr

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

He changed his mind and deleted it it seems

ORRRRRRRRRRRRR

You could admit that you reported the post and it was removed by mods.

Overheal

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

ORRRRRRRRRRRRR

You could admit that you reported the post and it was removed by mods.

And acknowledge or credit them? HA

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

He changed his mind and deleted it it seems

Nope seems someone else deleted it.

Few friends and one ex from Alabama, a state where it's legal to own military grade weaponry but you can't own a sex toy because in my friends opinion the average lad is afraid of the competition. Also a state where alcohol is illegal in some counties but you can get some good moonshine if you know the right people.

Overheal

DubInMeath wrote: »

Nope seems someone else deleted it.

Few friends and one ex from Alabama, a state where it's legal to own military grade weaponry but you can't own a sex toy because in my friends opinion the average lad is afraid of the competition. Also a state where alcohol is illegal in some counties but you can get some good moonshine if you know the right people.

Don't forget Mo Brooks!

What district you live in Ex?

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

Don't forget Mo Brooks!

What district you live in Ex?

She was from Tuscaloosa, well just outside it really. She and a few of her college mates were here studying for a year in trinity college.

I went over there for a month the next year. Her friends and immediate family were sound and very welcoming, but some of her extended family were mental.

One of her cousins wouldn't stay in the same room as me because he assumed that I was a Catholic and flipped completely when I told him, that he was wrong that I was an atheist with latent Christian leanings. He always seemed to have a persecution complex from what they told me about him that got worse over time and he is now in prison for the attempted murder of his now ex wife.

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

You should have been here the morning after the election. The self-congraulations from the Trump crowd was off the scale. They have disappeared since except for the occasional rereg......oh.

Thought the lad brag posting his 500 quid bet and holding out in the midst off all that was off the charts. Don't think most of the Trump supporters posting the morning after know the election process whatsoever.

Smee_Again

Cruz Stocky Steak wrote: »

Thought the lad brag posting his 500 quid bet and holding out in the midst off all that was off the charts. Don't think most of the Trump supporters posting the morning after know the election process whatsoever.

Same fella seemed to be surprised that Detroit was favouring Biden.