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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP
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Sydney Powell’s secret witness said to be “ a former intelligence contractor with insights on a foreign conspiracy to subvert democracy,” has been unmasked. It probably won’t surprise you to learn that description is a lie.
WaPo uncovered the identity of Terpsichore Maras-Lindeman who confirmed to WaPo she was Powell’s witness.
According to the Washington Post:
In a recent civil fraud case, attorneys for the state of North Dakota said that Maras-Lindeman falsely claimed to be a medical doctor and to have both a PhD and an MBA. They said she used multiple aliases and social security numbers and created exaggerated online résumés as part of what they called “a persistent effort . . . to deceive others.”
No wonder Powell tried to keep that secret, but it’s not like the defense would have been unaware of this background in or after discovery. Wasting the time and resources of the courts to chase down conspiracy theories based on lies to the court. Don’t expect her to say bar certified.0 -
Merry Christmas.
Thank God this goon won't be making president's calls like this next year..
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Does Xi Jinping even celebrate Christmas?
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suicide_circus wrote: »Does Xi Jinping even celebrate Christmas?
Santa doesn't visit China as he would be arrested and imprisoned for espionage0 -
everlast75 wrote: »Merry Christmas.
Thank God this goon won't be making president's calls like this next year..
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1077375011600678912?s=19
This year it'll be a rant about how the election was rigged.0 -
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ExMachina1000 wrote: »Santa doesn't visit China as he would be arrested and imprisoned for espionage
'if the real jesus christ was to stand up today,
He's be gunned down cold by the CIA'
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Again, they did a hand count audit to verify that the votes matched the machines totals and they did. Again, the voting systems used were setup and controlled by the GOP legislature, the reporting was signed off on by the GOP legislature in each of those counties, all the auditing was done and signed off by the GOP legislature. So, please, define what you are alleging the GOP to have done in those states, and why they did it.
It's really fascinating to come back with a couple of screen grabs from CNN (that I happen to have memory of watching live), and see it be used as some sort of evidence of something, the mental leaps required to do so are not of someone functioning normally. Did you really think that the CNN screen grabs are evidence of something? Were other networks in on it as well? What did OANN and NewsMax report during their live coverage? Do you think I am some sort of NPC here to try and destroy your argument? What is the angle here? CNN reports erroneously in the middle of the count, corrects it, and then continues adding votes to both sides, why have trump ahead at all? Why wasn't this done 4 years ago to stop trump getting into power? Why did the results roughly match the polls that were being done (by left and right leaning foundations)?
I mean we're coming off the back of another fraud in your misunderstanding of the numbers who voted, is that fraud still alive, and is there still 16 million too many votes, or has that been dropped in favor of the CNN pictures?
The insisting on here is states agreed to not count mail in ballots? Was this agreed in an alliance with the Republican party? Or was it solely a plan of action organised by the democrat party? Explain Florida, then? It’s typically always one of slowest counting states in the country. How is it, the mail in ballots there, got counted on election night. The counters only nodded off and decided to go to bed in the contested states,. Everyone saw the voting freeze in the swing states when Trump was on clear course for victory. The swing states all stopped counting intentionally. Who told the swing states to stop counting the votes? Trump was ahead in all the swing states, by a huge margin, then you saw all the swing states stop declaring. That’s very suspicious the states acted in unison at almost the same time.
Result got delayed then and then Biden miracle comeback began in the morning time. Of course videos appeared online showing counters late in the morning pullling out cases from underneath desks and counting ballots with no oversight inspectors there.
Washington post numbers are a joke. 239 million means 18 years old and over can vote, but not all are certified and registered voters. Election documentation establishes the number is 212 million. There no confirmation at all 239 million registered for the election in 2020 and two thirds of that number voted. That’s a figure drawn from thin air. Registered voters are the only people can cast a vote legitimately, end of story.0 -
See, it's not that you're unfamiliar with the debunking of these claims, by elections officials, law enforcement, prosecutors, lawmakers, state party officials, etc. - it's just that you don't seem to think that matters.
If the due process of law is irrelevant, then what is the point of pretending to fight the lawfulness of an election?
The dilemma is you only recognize the list of people who reject Trump allegations of voter fraud. If there no election fraud, why don’t the democrat prove it 100 percent. Let the independent, non party investigators do their work and we can all shut up. You can see the media being used to stop people legitimate concerns about mail in voting. Like i said before in the past, i don’t know if the fraud here is significant enough to change the election result?
Watching the democrats, supporters, and media now dismiss voter fraud, i do find it interesting. There had a 4 year narrative Russia helped Trump win 2016 and he was a spy and yet its now impossible Biden may have had election help from a foreign country or domestic agency?0 -
Ah, so you're following the GOP narrative hook, line and sinker then. Open your eyes man, who has most to lose in the election? (trump) and think what he would do and say to try and keep power. You're very easily led unfortunately.
Personally i think Trump had a powerful confidence he would crush Biden. And was less likely to cheat here. His too arrogant to believe otherwise and you know this! The democrat leaders sought every way possible to remove Trump by legal means and failed. So they had to win this election at all costs. Despite what people say it is a shock Biden got over 80 million votes. Where did the vote come from, it more then what Obama and Hilary got and he/her got immense support. Harris got knocked out of the presidential race as a no hoper. It is suspicious Biden win was secured by mail in votes and there no solid surveillance there despite what the media and democrats, and the fans of them claim online. You guys dismiss it, but if all you got is an autograph/signature and a address that can be counterfeited. If nobody is checking the person there at the address voted for Biden, you basically taking it on faith that person voted in 2020. The person at the address, did not vote, they have no actual clue someone send in a ballot for them. Did it happen, large scale, only unknown right now. Maybe it did not happen at a large scale? Shown, it did not, it'll be confident Biden vote was legit.0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »Personally i think Trump had a powerful confidence he would crush Biden. And was less likely to cheat here. His too arrogant to believe otherwise and you know this! The democrat leaders sought every way possible to remove Trump by legal means and failed. So they had to win this election at all costs. Despite what people say it is a shock Biden got over 80 million votes. Where did the vote come from, it more then what Obama and Hilary got and he/her got immense support. Harris got knocked out of the presidential race as a no hoper. It is suspicious Biden win was secured by mail in votes and there no solid surveillance there despite what the media and democrats, and the fan of them claim online. You guys dismiss it, but if all you got is an autograph/signature and a address that can be counterfeited. If nobody is checking the person there at the address voted for Biden, you basically taking it on faith that person voted in 2020. The person at the address, did not vote, they have no actual clue someone send in a ballot for them. Did it happen, large scale, only unknown right now. Maybe it did not happen at a large scale? Shown, it did not, it'll be confident Biden vote was legit.
You are 100% correct. It is terrible. Martians could have come from deep space and pretended to be legitimate democratic voters and voted for Biden. How do we know this didn't happen?? Massive amounts of Martians. If it isn't investigated then surely this proves fraud??0 -
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You are 100% correct. It is terrible. Martians could have come from deep space and pretended to be legitimate democratic voters and voted for Biden. How do we know this didn't happen?? Massive amounts of Martians. If it isn't investigated then surely this proves fraud??
154 million declared votes, the swing states' margins are very narrow, just half a million fake votes could push Biden over the edge. It’s very possible scenario despite your analogy.0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »154 million declared votes, the swing states' margins are very narrow, just half a million fake votes could push Biden over the edge. It’s very possible scenario despite your analogy.
"Networks don't get to decide elections.
Courts do." The president's lawyer- R. Gullisni
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Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »Personally i think Trump had a powerful confidence he would crush Biden. And was less likely to cheat here. His too arrogant to believe otherwise and you know this! The democrat leaders sought every way possible to remove Trump by legal means and failed. So they had to win this election at all costs. Despite what people say it is a shock Biden got over 80 million votes. Where did the vote come from, it more then what Obama and Hilary got and he/her got immense support. Harris got knocked out of the presidential race as a no hoper. It is suspicious Biden win was secured by mail in votes and there no solid surveillance there despite what the media and democrats, and the fans of them claim online. You guys dismiss it, but if all you got is an autograph/signature and a address that can be counterfeited. If nobody is checking the person there at the address voted for Biden, you basically taking it on faith that person voted in 2020. The person at the address, did not vote, they have no actual clue someone send in a ballot for them. Did it happen, large scale, only unknown right now. Maybe it did not happen at a large scale? Shown, it did not, it'll be confident Biden vote was legit.
All you're showing here is your incapacity to understand turnout and/or percentages.
1920 49.2%
1924 48.9%
1928 56.9%
1932 75,768,000 39,817,000 52.6%
1936 80,174,000 45,647,000 56.9%
1940 84,728,000 49,815,000 58.8%
1944 85,654,000 48,026,000 56.1%
1948 95,573,000 48,834,000 51.1%
1952 99,929,000 61,552,000 61.6%
1956 104,515,000 62,027,000 59.3%
1960 109,672,000 68,836,000 62.8%
1964 114,090,000 70,098,000 61.4%
1968 120,285,000 73,027,000 60.7%
1972 140,777,000 77,625,000 55.1%
1976 152,308,000 81,603,000 53.6%
1980 163,945,000 86,497,000 52.8%
1984 173,995,000 92,655,000 53.3%
1988 181,956,000 91,587,000 50.3%
1992 189,493,000 104,600,000 55.2%
1996 196,789,000 96,390,000 49.0%
2000 209,787,000 105,594,000 50.3%
2004 219,553,000 122,349,000 55.7%
2008 229,945,000 131,407,000 57.1%
2012 235,248,000 129,235,000 54.9%
2016 230,931,921 136,669,276 59.2%
2020 239,247,182 159,000,000 - 165,000,000 66.4% - 72.1%[/B]
The 2020 election has had a turn out of at least 6% greater than any election in the 100 years before it. In fact, the average between 1920 and 2016 was 55.31% meaning the turnout difference in 2020 was at least 11% greater than average and possibly as much as 17% greater.
Still confused where Biden's 80M (It was 81M in fact) came from? This was the most contentious Presidential Campaign which I can remember (am an active observer of US elections since 1996) but given the media changes since before that, I don't think there is any doubt that this was a more widely broadcast campaign than any in history and finally, given the 3 massively significant factors in this campaign of Covid, BLM Protests and Trumps Twitter activities, it is no surprise that the turnout was greater than any time in modern history.
Finally, one other thing to consider. Trump's approval rating never went above 47% throughout the campaign. The percentage of votes he got in the election? 46.9%
So , you can take your 'no solid evidence' and talk all you want about it to other Trump fans, and ignore the fact that all the checks and balances which exist in US electoral practices were met satisfactorily while the rest of us look on with satisfaction at how much this loss is hurting Trump and his supporters. The previous poster already pointed out that 3 of the judges who said there was no case of voter fraud to be answered were all appointed by Trump.
You have no desire for democracy, only that the most incompetent and useless candidate in our lifetimes and possibly ever be returned by whatever means necessary while ignoring his ineptitude in your blind allegiance.
It's all the sweeter for those of us who didn't rate Trump to have watched him bleat on for 4 years about how Hillary didn't accept her defeat (she did, within 24 Hours) as he continues to make a show of himself.0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »The insisting on here is states agreed to not count mail in ballots? Was this agreed in an alliance with the Republican party? Or was it solely a plan of action organised by the democrat party? Explain Florida, then? It’s typically always one of slowest counting states in the country. How is it, the mail in ballots there, got counted on election night. The counters only nodded off and decided to go to bed in the contested states,. Everyone saw the voting freeze in the swing states when Trump was on clear course for victory. The swing states all stopped counting intentionally. Who told the swing states to stop counting the votes? Trump was ahead in all the swing states, by a huge margin, then you saw all the swing states stop declaring. That’s very suspicious the states acted in unison at almost the same time.
This really shows that you haven't even done the most basic research into why the mail in votes were counted the way they were.
How can you claim fraud when you don't know the most basic things?0 -
irelandrover wrote: »This really shows that you haven't even done the most basic research into why the mail in votes were counted the way they were.
How can you claim fraud when you don't know the most basic things?
Those that claim fraud do so BECAUSE they don't know the most basic things.
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Who thinks that Trump won't return to the White House from his dump in florida?0
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If he can do all his pardons from there why move?
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irelandrover wrote: »This really shows that you haven't even done the most basic research into why the mail in votes were counted the way they were.
How can you claim fraud when you don't know the most basic things?
Its precisely because of not knowing. When one doesn't understand then everything can be a conspiracy.
They said it. At the heart of this is the feeling that how did Biden win. How did he get 81m votes? Trump said he was a terrible candidate. He was locked in his basement. Harris is evil and something. There is simply no way people would vote. 'My friends and I all voted Trump, my bowling team voted Trump, nobody I know like Biden. Therefore nobody voted Biden so it must be fraud'.
Fraud is the excuse. They then try to uncover evidence to prove this fraud. So anything than looks different, even cases of a van arriving at a court centre, is reason to believe that the fraud must be true0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »The dilemma is you only recognize the list of people who reject Trump allegations of voter fraud. If there no election fraud, why don’t the democrat prove it 100 percent. Let the independent, non party investigators do their work and we can all shut up. You can see the media being used to stop people legitimate concerns about mail in voting. Like i said before in the past, i don’t know if the fraud here is significant enough to change the election result?
Watching the democrats, supporters, and media now dismiss voter fraud, i do find it interesting. There had a 4 year narrative Russia helped Trump win 2016 and he was a spy and yet its now impossible Biden may have had election help from a foreign country or domestic agency?
There is no case to answer as the Giuliani team has shown no evidence in court to prove there us any fraud, hell they've even admitted that their cases is not a fraud case.
So why should democates prove that it's all over board? It's not their case to answer for. The methods you're suggesting are really not the way legal system works, Nor are the democrats holding on to any evidence or blocking it in any way.
They're not withholding any transcripts or blocking any subpoenas are they? Something like potential witnesses or tax records or dna evidence by any chance?
Imagine what would happen if they, oh I dunno, took a phone transcripts that was vital for a DOJ investigation (if one was set up) and hid it behind some legal context so the investigators couldn't view the evidence?
Imagine how disgusted (even more so) you'd be at the DNC if they did that?
That one transcript could prove that trump has won the election but the non-partisan state appointed investigators can't access it.
Just imagine that scenario, for one second.
But they're not are they? That's just a fabrication, they're not blocking any investigation.
Now back to reality, remind me of the trump administrations behaviour to the impeachment proceedings and their treatment of evidence0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »The insisting on here is states agreed to not count mail in ballots? Was this agreed in an alliance with the Republican party? Or was it solely a plan of action organised by the democrat party? Explain Florida, then? It’s typically always one of slowest counting states in the country. How is it, the mail in ballots there, got counted on election night. The counters only nodded off and decided to go to bed in the contested states,. Everyone saw the voting freeze in the swing states when Trump was on clear course for victory. The swing states all stopped counting intentionally. Who told the swing states to stop counting the votes? Trump was ahead in all the swing states, by a huge margin, then you saw all the swing states stop declaring. That’s very suspicious the states acted in unison at almost the same time.
Result got delayed then and then Biden miracle comeback began in the morning time. Of course videos appeared online showing counters late in the morning pullling out cases from underneath desks and counting ballots with no oversight inspectors there.
Washington post numbers are a joke. 239 million means 18 years old and over can vote, but not all are certified and registered voters. Election documentation establishes the number is 212 million. There no confirmation at all 239 million registered for the election in 2020 and two thirds of that number voted. That’s a figure drawn from thin air. Registered voters are the only people can cast a vote legitimately, end of story.
you are going over things that have already been well discussed. you have added nothing to the discussion. again.0 -
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Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »The dilemma is you only recognize the list of people who reject Trump allegations of voter fraud. If there no election fraud, why don’t the democrat prove it 100 percent. Let the independent, non party investigators do their work and we can all shut up. You can see the media being used to stop people legitimate concerns about mail in voting. Like i said before in the past, i don’t know if the fraud here is significant enough to change the election result?
Watching the democrats, supporters, and media now dismiss voter fraud, i do find it interesting. There had a 4 year narrative Russia helped Trump win 2016 and he was a spy and yet its now impossible Biden may have had election help from a foreign country or domestic agency?
I find it interesting that you think the winning candidate has to prove that they didn't win by fraud. I know you generally post nonsense on this thread but this is up there with the best of it.0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »Personally i think Trump had a powerful confidence he would crush Biden. And was less likely to cheat here. His too arrogant to believe otherwise and you know this! The democrat leaders sought every way possible to remove Trump by legal means and failed. So they had to win this election at all costs. Despite what people say it is a shock Biden got over 80 million votes. Where did the vote come from, it more then what Obama and Hilary got and he/her got immense support. Harris got knocked out of the presidential race as a no hoper. It is suspicious Biden win was secured by mail in votes and there no solid surveillance there despite what the media and democrats, and the fans of them claim online. You guys dismiss it, but if all you got is an autograph/signature and a address that can be counterfeited. If nobody is checking the person there at the address voted for Biden, you basically taking it on faith that person voted in 2020. The person at the address, did not vote, they have no actual clue someone send in a ballot for them. Did it happen, large scale, only unknown right now. Maybe it did not happen at a large scale? Shown, it did not, it'll be confident Biden vote was legit.
trumps cheats at feckin golf and you think he wouldn't cheat to win an election? JFC. there is nothing suspicious about biden winning by mail-in votes. The GOP told people to vote in person and the Dems told their voters to vote by mail-in where possible because of covid. what part of that do you not understand? and nobody cares how confident you are that biden won. he did win. your man lost. get over it.0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »154 million declared votes, the swing states' margins are very narrow, just half a million fake votes could push Biden over the edge. It’s very possible scenario despite your analogy.
how many votes did trump win by in swing states in 2016?0 -
ohnonotgmail wrote: »you are going over things that have already been well discussed. you have added nothing to the discussion. again.
It's a constant conspiracy circle with most of them.
"Oh look at this "source" that makes this claim"
Source gets discussed and claim gets debunked.
"Well what about this claim?"
Claim gets debunked
"Well I have just come across this claim"
Claim also gets shown to be false.
"Hey has anyone seen this? It's shocking!"
Its the original claim but by a different source.0 -
ohnonotgmail wrote: »I find it interesting that you think the winning candidate has to prove that they didn't win by fraud. I know you generally post nonsense on this thread but this is up there with the best of it.
Trump said several times over the past 4 years that the only way he could lose would be if he was somehow cheated. He's been setting the scene for this situation for years now.
It's entirely predictable to see how followers going down the rabbit hole with him, because they've been conditioned to believe that Trump is constantly being cheated. It's all part of the indoctrination.0 -
Tell me how wrote: »All you're showing here is your incapacity to understand turnout and/or percentages.
1920 49.2%
1924 48.9%
1928 56.9%
1932 75,768,000 39,817,000 52.6%
1936 80,174,000 45,647,000 56.9%
1940 84,728,000 49,815,000 58.8%
1944 85,654,000 48,026,000 56.1%
1948 95,573,000 48,834,000 51.1%
1952 99,929,000 61,552,000 61.6%
1956 104,515,000 62,027,000 59.3%
1960 109,672,000 68,836,000 62.8%
1964 114,090,000 70,098,000 61.4%
1968 120,285,000 73,027,000 60.7%
1972 140,777,000 77,625,000 55.1%
1976 152,308,000 81,603,000 53.6%
1980 163,945,000 86,497,000 52.8%
1984 173,995,000 92,655,000 53.3%
1988 181,956,000 91,587,000 50.3%
1992 189,493,000 104,600,000 55.2%
1996 196,789,000 96,390,000 49.0%
2000 209,787,000 105,594,000 50.3%
2004 219,553,000 122,349,000 55.7%
2008 229,945,000 131,407,000 57.1%
2012 235,248,000 129,235,000 54.9%
2016 230,931,921 136,669,276 59.2%
2020 239,247,182 159,000,000 - 165,000,000 66.4% - 72.1%[/B]
The 2020 election has had a turn out of at least 6% greater than any election in the 100 years before it. In fact, the average between 1920 and 2016 was 55.31% meaning the turnout difference in 2020 was at least 11% greater than average and possibly as much as 17% greater.
Still confused where Biden's 80M (It was 81M in fact) came from? This was the most contentious Presidential Campaign which I can remember (am an active observer of US elections since 1996) but given the media changes since before that, I don't think there is any doubt that this was a more widely broadcast campaign than any in history and finally, given the 3 massively significant factors in this campaign of Covid, BLM Protests and Trumps Twitter activities, it is no surprise that the turnout was greater than any time in modern history.
Finally, one other thing to consider. Trump's approval rating never went above 47% throughout the campaign. The percentage of votes he got in the election? 46.9%
So , you can take your 'no solid evidence' and talk all you want about it to other Trump fans, and ignore the fact that all the checks and balances which exist in US electoral practices were met satisfactorily while the rest of us look on with satisfaction at how much this loss is hurting Trump and his supporters. The previous poster already pointed out that 3 of the judges who said there was no case of voter fraud to be answered were all appointed by Trump.
You have no desire for democracy, only that the most incompetent and useless candidate in our lifetimes and possibly ever be returned by whatever means necessary while ignoring his ineptitude in your blind allegiance.
It's all the sweeter for those of us who didn't rate Trump to have watched him bleat on for 4 years about how Hillary didn't accept her defeat (she did, within 24 Hours) as he continues to make a show of himself.
Again you fellows are not getting the issue here and that likely will continue.
The fact of the matter is US election documentation 2020, shows a statistic of 212 million registered voters across all US states. Therefore, the media breakdown percentages are in fact calculated wrongly. There's no documentation in the system can show two-thirds of the 239 million eligible voters send in mail in votes and voted on the day.
27 million of that eligibility number are not set up to vote, there unregistered to vote in 2020. Counters can only count votes when there clear evidence the person has provided identifiction and on a registration voting list and you guys should be aware of this fact?
I do find it suspicious there were hundreds of thousands of election ballots counted in the early hours of the morning. In contested swing states, a time when the majority of the staff clocked off to go home and monitors have left the room. You see clearly in Fulton County there was only a handful of people left in the room. Reporters, watchers, inspectors watching the counting had left, and then people, hanging around in that room between 3am and 6am started removing suitcase like bags from underneath tables and dragging the suitcases full of ballots to another area and voting machines start the tabulating of a huge amount of votes. The fact is Joe Biden was receiving the majority of the early am votes on 4th, not small numbers over 90 percent, the ballot counting between 3am to 3.30am started to takeaway Trump large lead is very odd. The process seemed to go into overdrive, or hyperdrive when the majority of the polling stations cleared out.0 -
Trump said several times over the past 4 years that the only way he could lose would be if he was somehow cheated. He's been setting the scene for this situation for years now.
It's entirely predictable to see how followers going down the rabbit hole with him, because they've been conditioned to believe that Trump is constantly being cheated. It's all part of the indoctrination.
This is true but there’s a will-fullness to the ignorance too.
Take Cheerful above, constantly posting conspiracies that are easily debunked yet back he comes with more conspiracies and it’s on he hasn’t done any kind of due diligence on the nonsense he posts.0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »Gibberish that shows up my ignorance about how voter turnout is measured.
Case in point.0 -
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »Again you fellows are not getting the issue here and that likely will continue.
The fact of the matter is US election documentation 2020, shows a statistic of 212 million registered voters across all US states. Therefore, the media breakdown percentages are in fact calculated wrongly. There's no documentation in the system can show two-thirds of the 239 million eligible voters send in mail in votes and voted on the day.
27 million of that eligibility number are not set up to vote, there unregistered to vote in 2020. Counters can only count votes when there clear evidence the person has provided identifiction and on a registration voting list and you guys should be aware of this fact?
I do find it suspicious there were hundreds of thousands of election ballots counted in the early hours of the morning. In contested swing states, a time when the majority of the staff clocked off to go home and monitors have left the room. You see clearly in Fulton County there was only a handful of people left in the room. Reporters, watchers, inspectors watching the counting had left, and then people, hanging around in that room between 3am and 6am started removing suitcase like bags from underneath tables and dragging the suitcases full of ballots to another area and voting machines start the tabulating of a huge amount of votes. The fact is Joe Biden was receiving the majority of the early am votes on 4th, not small numbers over 90 percent, the ballot counting between 3am to 3.30am started to takeaway Trump large lead is very odd. The process seemed to go into overdrive, or hyperdrive when the majority of the polling stations cleared out.
and again you show your ignorance of how voter turnout is calculated. we are trying to educate you but it just isn't going in.0 -
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Smee_Again wrote: »This is true but there’s a will-fullness to the ignorance too.
Take Cheerful above, constantly posting conspiracies that are easily debunked yet back he comes with more conspiracies and it’s on he hasn’t done any kind of due diligence on the nonsense he posts.
not just conspiracies that are easily debunked but conspiracies that have already been debunked, in some cases multiple times.0
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