Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Cheerful Spring2

Smee_Again wrote: »

This is true but there’s a will-fullness to the ignorance too.

Take Cheerful above, constantly posting conspiracies that are easily debunked yet back he comes with more conspiracies and it’s on he hasn’t done any kind of due diligence on the nonsense he posts.

Easily debunked not easily as you like to be. Everyone saw the count froze in Swing states around 11pm and 12am in unison on the 3th. Then in the very early morning, Biden starting receiving hundreds of thousands of votes, statistically irregular flow of votes.,

The biden votes started to takeaway Trump huge margins- hundreds of thousands of votes, early morning on the 4th. The polling/counting facilities are empty at that time, yet hundreds of thousands turned up to be tabulated by the handful of workers at that time.

everlast75

*if* Trump played a blinder over the 4 years, say halved the deficit, brought the nation together, increased America's standing in the international community, deployed best practice with COVID, was not impeached, then maybe, MAYBE, one would eye the results with some skepticism, but we all know he was a complete and utter balls of his term.

The question should not be "how did biden win?", but moreso "why the **** would anyone vote for Trump?"

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Easily debunked not easily as you like to be. Everyone saw the count froze in Swing states around 11pm and 12am in unison on the 3th. Then in the very early morning, Biden starting receiving hundreds of thousands of votes, statistically irregular flow of votes.,

The biden votes started to takeaway Trump huge margins- hundreds of thousands of votes, early morning on the 4th. The polling/counting facilities are empty at that time, yet hundreds of thousands turned up to be tabulated by the handful of workers at that time.

already discussed. you are weeks behind everybody else on this.

Smee_Again

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Easily debunked not easily as you like to be. Everyone saw the count froze in Swing states around 11pm and 12am in unison on the 3th. Then in the very early morning, Biden starting receiving hundreds of thousands of votes, statistically irregular flow of votes.,

The biden votes started to takeaway Trump huge margins- hundreds of thousands of votes, early morning on the 4th. The polling/counting facilities are empty at that time, yet hundreds of thousands turned up to be tabulated by the handful of workers at that time.

Statistically irregular? You don’t even understand percentages so I highly doubt you’re qualified to talk statistics.

Cheerful Spring2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

already discussed. you are weeks behind everybody else on this.

Republicans have a solid argument. If you look at the data, an injection of hundreds of thousands of ballots occurred , early morning time between 3am and 6am, when fraud was more workable. Data scientists have noted in Michigan alone Biden received over 100,000 votes between 3am and 3.30am that’s a logical problem. They counted votes when the majority of people had left for the night. Why did all the ballots only appear in the am morning hours? Of course the media will ignore that.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Republicans have a solid argument. If you look at the data, an injection of hundreds of thousands of ballots occurred , early morning time between 3am and 6am, when fraud was more workable. Data scientists have noted in Michigan alone Biden received over 100,000 votes between 3am and 3.30am that’s a logical problem. They counted votes when the majority of people had left for the night. Why did all the ballots only appear in the am morning hours? Of course the media will ignore that.

weeks behind. nothing was ignored. it has already been explained.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Easily debunked not easily as you like to be. Everyone saw the count froze in Swing states around 11pm and 12am in unison on the 3th. Then in the very early morning, Biden starting receiving hundreds of thousands of votes, statistically irregular flow of votes.,

The biden votes started to takeaway Trump huge margins- hundreds of thousands of votes, early morning on the 4th. The polling/counting facilities are empty at that time, yet hundreds of thousands turned up to be tabulated by the handful of workers at that time.

It has been repeatedly pointed out to you for the last few weeks that in those states the in person votes were counted first which heavily favoured Trump, then later on on election night and the days after the mail in ballots were counted which heavily favoured Biden. Your continued ignorance of this point invalidates all your points as they based on a false premise to begin with.

Cheerful Spring2

namloc1980 wrote: »

It has been repeatedly pointed out to you for the last few weeks that in those states the in person votes were counted first which heavily favoured Trump, then later on on election night and the days after the mail in ballots were counted which heavily favoured Biden. Your continued ignorance of this point invalidates all your points as they based on a false premise to begin with.

Show me factual evidence here. The swing states senators and election officials agreed pre election and decided they’ll all remove suitcases of ballots, count in the early morning hours? This seems to be just a talking point based on nothing.. If they all conformed to hold back vote counting, there should be a history of that.

Cheerful Spring2

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Easily debunked not easily as you like to be. Everyone saw the count froze in Swing states around 11pm and 12am in unison on the 3th. Then in the very early morning, Biden starting receiving hundreds of thousands of votes, statistically irregular flow of votes.,

The biden votes started to takeaway Trump huge margins- hundreds of thousands of votes, early morning on the 4th. The polling/counting facilities are empty at that time, yet hundreds of thousands turned up to be tabulated by the handful of workers at that time.

Care to provide proof they were "statistically irregular", credible source rather than the Gateway Pundit.

weisses

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Show me factual evidence here. The swing states senators and election officials agreed pre election and decided they’ll all remove suitcases of ballots, count in the early morning hours? This seems to be just a talking point based on nothing.. If they all conformed to hold back vote counting, there should be a history of that.

You are ballsy ... Asking for evidence when all you provided were half thruths, debunked conspiracies and opinions.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Show me factual evidence here. The swing states senators and election officials agreed pre election and decided they’ll all remove suitcases of ballots, count in the early morning hours? This seems to be just a talking point based on nothing.. If they all conformed to hold back vote counting, there should be a history of that.

there is a history of it. the republicans that controlled those states wrote it into law that mail-in votes could not be counted until after polls close. In some cases the mail-in votes could not even be opened and verified as correct until after the polls closed.

and there were no suitcases of votes removed. that was a tv cameraman removing his equipment. again you are spectacularly uniformed and way behind the curve. this has already been well discussed over thousands of points. you come in here weeks later and repeat the same nonsense because you think you are so much smarter than everybody else and found a smoking gun. you're not and you haven't.

Smee_Again

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Show me factual evidence here. The swing states senators and election officials agreed pre election and decided they’ll all remove suitcases of ballots, count in the early morning hours? This seems to be just a talking point based on nothing.. If they all conformed to hold back vote counting, there should be a history of that.

Pennsylvania officials on Thursday urged local election offices to begin counting mail-in ballots on Election Day, after several Republican-led counties in the battleground state said they would not start tabulating the votes until a day later.

This is from before the election. If you bothered to actually fact check your own nonsense you’d know this.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-pennsylvania-idUSKBN27F00F

Timberrrrrrrr

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Easily debunked not easily as you like to be. Everyone saw the count froze in Swing states around 11pm and 12am in unison on the 3th. Then in the very early morning, Biden starting receiving hundreds of thousands of votes, statistically irregular flow of votes.,

The biden votes started to takeaway Trump huge margins- hundreds of thousands of votes, early morning on the 4th. The polling/counting facilities are empty at that time, yet hundreds of thousands turned up to be tabulated by the handful of workers at that time.

Let me try to explain this to you in simple terms.

Trump was ahead because the majority of his voters voted on the day innoerson.

Biden was behind as most of his voters used mail in votes.

The in person votes were counted first and Trump went ahead.

Once all of the in person votes were counted they then started counting the mail in ballots.

The majority of these mail in ballots were for Biden.

Thats why Trump suddenly started losing his lead.


If you cannot understand that explanation then there is no hope for you.

ohnonotgmail

Smee_Again wrote: »

Pennsylvania officials on Thursday urged local election offices to begin counting mail-in ballots on Election Day, after several Republican-led counties in the battleground state said they would not start tabulating the votes until a day later. [\quote]

This is from before the election. If you bothered to actually fact check your own nonsense you’d know this.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-pennsylvania-idUSKBN27F00F

no point presenting them with evidence.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Show me factual evidence here. The swing states senators and election officials agreed pre election and decided they’ll all remove suitcases of ballots, count in the early morning hours? This seems to be just a talking point based on nothing.. If they all conformed to hold back vote counting, there should be a history of that.

Factual evidence of what? Are you now disputing that in certain states they weren't allowed to canvas and start counting mail in votes until election day??

Smee_Again

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no point presenting them with evidence.

Someone else might read it.

Cheerful Spring2

Deleted User wrote: »

Care to provide proof they were "statistically irregular", credible source rather than the Gateway Pundit.

If you flip back over the Election coverage you will discover for yourself the points and times, Biden took away Trump large lead. It was in the early morning between 3am and 6am. Hundreds of thousands of votes appeared and ate into Trump lead in the contested states and Biden count by 8am, the Trump margins, gone and other instances caught up with him It’s suspicious the come back happened between 3am and 6am, when there was no media in the room, poll watchers, had gone home, republican watchers had left for the night, counting was stopped, no reason to stay. It’s partly reason the republicans are now using security tape video to show fraud, there observers and public watchers had gone home for the night.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

If you flip back over the Election coverage you will discover for yourself the points and times, Biden took away Trump large lead. It was in the early morning between 3am and 6am. Hundreds of thousands of votes appeared and ate into Trump lead in the contested states and Biden count by 8am, the Trump margins, gone and other instances caught up with him It’s suspicious the come back happened between 3am and 6am, when there was no media in the room, poll watchers, had gone home, republican watchers had left for the night, counting was stopped, no reason to stay. It’s partly reason the republicans are now using security tape video to show fraud, there observers and public watchers had gone home for the night.

it has been 7 weeks since the election. no allegations of fraud have been substantiated in court by trump et al. none. trump personally has not even alleged fraud in his court cases. not once.

Cheerful Spring2

namloc1980 wrote: »

Factual evidence of what? Are you now disputing that in certain states they weren't allowed to canvas and start counting mail in votes until election day??

They counted suitcase ballots hidden under tables on the 4th not the 3th. Get your time's right. The fact there pulling out cases underneath tables shows terrible security.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

They counted suitcase ballots hidden under tables on the 4th not the 3th. Get your time's right. The fact there pulling out cases underneath tables shows terrible security.

you really will believe any old nonsense won't you. the gullibility is unreal. any chance you might make a point on something that hasn't already been done to death?

astrofool

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

They counted suitcase ballots hidden under tables on the 4th not the 3th. Get your time's right. The fact there pulling out cases underneath tables shows terrible security.

Again, all the systems you are questioning are GOP legislatures, what was the GOP aim? What was the plan? Why have the GOP signed off on all of the results? Why haven't any of the cases you bring up also been brought to court by rudy? (where they specifically claim there was no fraud).

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

They counted suitcase ballots hidden under tables on the 4th not the 3th. Get your time's right. The fact there pulling out cases underneath tables shows terrible security.

This is the theory that got laughed out of court in Georgia of I remember. This one was part of the Kraken case. Anyone who believes the lies of Giuliani and Sidney Powell needs to re-evaluate their priorities.

Cheerful Spring2

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

If you flip back over the Election coverage you will discover for yourself the points and times, Biden took away Trump large lead. It was in the early morning between 3am and 6am. Hundreds of thousands of votes appeared and ate into Trump lead in the contested states and Biden count by 8am, the Trump margins, gone and other instances caught up with him It’s suspicious the come back happened between 3am and 6am, when there was no media in the room, poll watchers, had gone home, republican watchers had left for the night, counting was stopped, no reason to stay. It’s partly reason the republicans are now using security tape video to show fraud, there observers and public watchers had gone home for the night.

You've claimed it was statistically irregular, everyone knew that vote counting on mail ballots were going to start in the early hours and it didn't fully become apparent until the afternoon on Wednesday that Biden was gaining a significant lead. This was pretty much mooted as a large possibility in any pre election discussions because of ballot counting starting for mail in votes. Nothing irregular about it.

Now can you point to a credible source that says it was irregular? Not youtube videos that the GOP are posting online, majority of which didn't even make it into their court filings. :pac: Also any proof that there were no poll watchers or media present at that point, that they'd gone home? Cause any network I'm thinking of, were doing non stop coverage and the GOP have tended to make the claim of poll watchers being banned rather than going home, also not true.

Cheerful Spring2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it has been 7 weeks since the election. no allegations of fraud have been substantiated in court by trump et al. none. trump personally has not even alleged fraud in his court cases. not once.

Well, there plenty of evidence, whistleblowers, have come forward, many are democratic, well surveillance footage, weird vote dumps in am hours, but the media is convincing sufficient people that even courts will believe their lies. Many of the whistleblowers have come forward, the dominion voting machines had a connection to the internet, and this a big red flag. You not allowed to have internet connection, only USB, software connected to the internet can be hacked from outside.. The people there at the polling counting station, saw this occur, then the courts should hear the evidence and then decide. Lower Courts are too afraid to be involved, take it to supreme court, or set up a new court, to look at all the evidence.

ohnonotgmail

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Well, there plenty of evidence, whistleblowers, have come forward, many are democratic, well surveillance footage, weird vote dumps in am hours, but the media is convincing sufficient people that even courts will believe their lies. Many of the whistleblowers have come forward, the dominion voting machines had a connection to the internet, and this a big red flag. You not allowed to have internet connection, only USB, software connected to the internet can be hacked from outside.. The people there at the polling counting station, saw this occur, then the courts should hear the evidence and then decide. Lower Courts are too afraid to be involved, take it to supreme court, or set up a new court, to look at all the evidence.

if that is your tack then off to the CT forum. you know where it is.

Cody montana

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

They counted suitcase ballots hidden under tables on the 4th not the 3th. Get your time's right. The fact there pulling out cases underneath tables shows terrible security.

Did they not do a recount?

Smee_Again

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

set up a new court, to look at all the evidence.

Can I suggest a name for this new court? Kangaroo court has a nice ring to it, don’t you think.

Cheerful Spring2

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Well, there plenty of evidence, whistleblowers, have come forward, many are democratic, well surveillance footage, weird vote dumps in am hours, but the media is convincing sufficient people that even courts will believe their lies. Many of the whistleblowers have come forward, the dominion voting machines had a connection to the internet, and this a big red flag. You not allowed to have internet connection, only USB, software connected to the internet can be hacked from outside.. The people there at the polling counting station, saw this occur, then the courts should hear the evidence and then decide. Lower Courts are too afraid to be involved, take it to supreme court, or set up a new court, to look at all the evidence.

Here's Powell's key eyewitness for example who amounts to a Trump podcaster and fraudster.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/sidney-powells-secret-intelligence-contractor-witness-is-a-pro-trump-podcaster/

And pretty much every group pushing Dominion conspiracies have dropped it. Got any evidence of lower courts being frightened? Everything I've seen to date indicates that Trump's lawyers haven't even met basic standards expected of the courts..... Plus recounts by hand not even helping Trump, have dominion infiltrated the minds of counters?

Cheerful Spring2

astrofool wrote: »

Again, all the systems you are questioning are GOP legislatures, what was the GOP aim? What was the plan? Why have the GOP signed off on all of the results? Why haven't any of the cases you bring up also been brought to court by rudy? (where they specifically claim there was no fraud).

Are you ignoring the Republican senate election committee meeting held recently? The GOP is alleging fraud happened here and Biden stole the election.

Smee_Again

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Are you ignoring the Republican senate election committee meeting held recently? The GOP is alleging fraud happened here and Biden stole the election.

Why would they allege fraud away from the courts but not in court? That seems strange to me, almost as if they don’t actually believe there was fraud.