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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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    #1502
    Tell me how
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    44:05 'What are we going to do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes! Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break.'

    Guess Susan Collins was wrong and this clown didn't learn his lesson for being impeached over things he said on a phone call.

    Would love to hear this recording without the parts bleeped out. It says how far gone he is that his own attorneys and Chief of Staff on the call haven't said a word since the start of the call.


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    #1503
    Tell me how
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    49:15 'Look, ultimately, I win, Okay'

    49:30 'your governor, he was down 21 points and like a SCHMUCK I endorsed him and he got elected.'

    This like a script from a Scorcese movie.


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    #1504
    Overheal
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    Trump: No, we do have a way but I don’t want to get into it. We found a way … excuse me, but we don’t need it because we’re only down 11,000 votes so we don’t even need it. I personally think they’re corrupt as hell. But we don’t need that. All we have to do Cleta is find 11,000-plus votes. So we don’t need that. I’m not looking to shake up the whole world. We won Georgia easily. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. But if you go by basic simple numbers, we won it easily, easily. So we’re not giving Dominion pass on the record. We don’t need Dominion, because we have so many other votes that we don’t need to prove it any more than we already have.

    Hilbert: Mr. President and Cleta, this is Kurt Hilbert, if I might interject for a moment. Um Ryan, I would like to suggest just four categories that have already been mentioned by the president that have actually hard numbers of 24.149 votes that were counted illegally. That in and of itself is sufficient to change the results or place the outcome in doubt. We would like to sit down with your office so we can do it through purposes of compromise and just like this phone call, just to deal with that limited category of votes. And if you are able to establish that our numbers are not accurate, then fine. However, we believe that they are accurate. We’ve had now three to four separate experts looking at these numbers.

    Trump: Certified accountants looked at them.

    Hilbert: Correct. And this is just based on USPS data and your own secretary of state data. So that’s what we would entreat and ask you to do, to sit down with us in a compromise and settlements proceeding and actually go through the registered voter IDs and registrations. And if you can convince us that 24,149 is inaccurate, then fine. But we tend to believe that is, you know, obviously more than 11,779. That’s sufficient to change the results entirely in of itself. So what would you say to that, Mr. Germany?

    Germany: I’m happy to get with our lawyers and we’ll set that up. That number is not accurate. And I think we can show you, for all the ones we’ve looked at, why it’s not. And so if that would be helpful, I’m happy to get with our lawyers and set that up with you guys.

    Trump: Well, let me ask you, Kurt, you think that is an accurate number. That was based on the information given to you by the secretary of state’s department, right?

    Hilbert: That is correct. That information is the minimum most conservative data based upon the USPS data and the secretary of state’s office data that has been made publicly available. We do not have the internal numbers from the secretary of state. We have asked for it six times. I sent a letter over to … several times requesting this information, and it’s been rebuffed every single time. So it stands to reason that if the information is not forthcoming, there’s something to hide. That’s the problem that we have.

    Germany: Well, that’s not the case sir. There are things that you guys are entitled to get. And there’s things that under the law, we are not allowed to give out.

    Trump: Well, you have to. Well, under the law you’re not allowed to give faulty election results, OK? You’re not allowed to do that. And that’s what you done. This is a faulty election result. And honestly, this should go very fast. You should meet tomorrow because you have a big election coming up and because of what you’ve done to the president — you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam. Because of what you’ve done to the president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote and a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they’re going to vote. And you would be respected. Really respected, if this thing could be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday. And I think that it is really is important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers. Because I know Brad that if you think we’re right, I think you’re going to say, and I’m not looking to blame anybody. I’m just saying you know, and, you know, under new counts, and under uh, new views, of the election results, we won the election. You know? It’s is very simple. We won the election. As the governors of major states and the surrounding states said, there is no way you lost Georgia, as the Georgia politicians say, there is no way, you lost Georgia. Nobody. Everyone knows I won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But I’ll tell you it’s going to have a big impact on Tuesday if you guys don’t get this thing straightened out fast.

    2 wrongs make a right and the law bends to political electioneering.


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    #1505
    everlast75
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    https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1345864603109089290?s=19


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    #1506
    Overheal
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    Trump: Well why don’t my lawyers show you where you got the information. It will show the secretary of state, and you don’t even have to look at any names. We know want names. We don’t care. But we got that information from you. And Stacey Abrams is laughing about you. She’s going around saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she’s done to this party is unbelievable, I tell ya. And I only ran against her once. And that was with a guy named Brian Kemp and I beat her. And if I didn’t run, Brian wouldn’t have had even a shot, either in the general or in the primary. He was dead, dead as a doornail. He never thought he had a shot at either one of them. What a schmuck I was. But that’s the way it is. That’s the way it is. I would like you … for the attorneys … I’d like you to perhaps meet with Ryan ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution of this before the election. Otherwise you’re going to have people just not voting. They don’t want to vote. They hate the state, they hate the governor and they hate the secretary of state. I will tell you that right now. The only people like you are people that will never vote for you. You know that Brad, right? They like you know, they like you. They can’t believe what they found. They want people like you. So, look, can you get together tomorrow? And Brad. We just want the truth. It’s simple.

    And everyone’s going to look very good if the truth comes out. It’s OK. It takes a little while but let the truth come out. And the real truth is I won by 400,000 votes. At least. That’s the real truth. But we don’t need 400,000. We need less than 2,000 votes. And are you guys able to meet tomorrow Ryan?

    In his mind, lower elections are game and he is the only player. And more coercion.


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    #1507
    Overheal
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    The whole call is just entirely damning. This entire portion reads as Trump trying to set up the narrative for how GA SecState can meet up with Trump's lawyers to come up with "you know, under new counts, and under, uh, new views, of the election results, 'we won the election' you know? It's very simple, 'we won the election.'"

    Trump pleads with/corces SecState on political ramifications and electioneering.

    Trump's attoerney then suggests legal shenanigans for getting around privacy law. Then Trump makes it clear he's thinking about his plausible deniability, "I don’t want to know who it is. You guys can do it very confidentially. You can sign a confidentiality agreement. That’s OK. I don’t need to know names."

    Impeach him again. I'll say it again.
    Germany: I’m happy to get with our lawyers and we’ll set that up. That number is not accurate. And I think we can show you, for all the ones we’ve looked at, why it’s not. And so if that would be helpful, I’m happy to get with our lawyers and set that up with you guys.

    Trump: Well, let me ask you, Kurt, you think that is an accurate number. That was based on the information given to you by the secretary of state’s department, right?

    Hilbert: That is correct. That information is the minimum most conservative data based upon the USPS data and the secretary of state’s office data that has been made publicly available. We do not have the internal numbers from the secretary of state. We have asked for it six times. I sent a letter over to … several times requesting this information, and it’s been rebuffed every single time. So it stands to reason that if the information is not forthcoming, there’s something to hide. That’s the problem that we have.

    Germany: Well, that’s not the case sir. There are things that you guys are entitled to get. And there’s things that under the law, we are not allowed to give out.

    Trump: Well, you have to. Well, under the law you’re not allowed to give faulty election results, OK? You’re not allowed to do that. And that’s what you done. This is a faulty election result. And honestly, this should go very fast. You should meet tomorrow because you have a big election coming up and because of what you’ve done to the president — you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam. Because of what you’ve done to the president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote and a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they’re going to vote. And you would be respected. Really respected, if this thing could be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday. And I think that it is really is important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers. Because I know Brad that if you think we’re right, I think you’re going to say, and I’m not looking to blame anybody. I’m just saying you know, and, you know, under new counts, and under uh, new views, of the election results, we won the election. You know? It’s is very simple. We won the election. As the governors of major states and the surrounding states said, there is no way you lost Georgia, as the Georgia politicians say, there is no way, you lost Georgia. Nobody. Everyone knows I won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But I’ll tell you it’s going to have a big impact on Tuesday if you guys don’t get this thing straightened out fast.

    Meadows: Mr. President. This is Mark. It sounds like we’ve got different sides agreeing that we can look at these areas ands I assume that we can do that within the next 24 to 48 hours to go ahead and get that reconciled so that we can look at the two claims and making sure that we get the access to the secretary of state’s data to either validate or invalidate the claims that have been made. Is that correct?

    Germany: No, that’s not what I said. I’m happy to have our lawyers sit down with Kurt and the lawyers on that side and explain to my him, here’s, based on what we’ve looked at so far, here’s how we know this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong.

    Meadows: So what you’re saying, Ryan, let me let me make sure … so what you’re saying is you really don’t want to give access to the data. You just want to make another case on why the lawsuit is wrong?

    Germany: I don’t think we can give access to data that’s protected by law. But we can sit down with them and say —

    Trump: But you’re allowed to have a phony election? You’re allowed to have a phony election right?

    Germany: No sir.

    Trump: When are you going to do signature counts, when are you going to do signature verification on Fulton County, which you said you were going to do, and now all of a sudden you’re not doing it. When are you doing that?

    Germany: We are going to do that. We’ve announced —

    Hilbert: To get to this issue of the personal information and privacy issue, is it possible that the secretary of state could deputize the lawyers for the president so that we could access that information and private information without you having any kind of violation?

    Trump: Well, I don’t want to know who it is. You guys can do it very confidentially. You can sign a confidentiality agreement. That’s OK. I don’t need to know names. But on this stuff that we’re talking about. We got all that information from the secretary of state.


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    #1508
    PropJoe10
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    Overheal wrote: »
    The whole call is just entirely damning. This entire portion reads as Trump trying to set up the narrative for how GA SecState can meet up with Trump's lawyers to come up with "you know, under new counts, and under, uh, new views, of the election results, 'we won the election' you know? It's very simple, 'we won the election.'"

    Trump pleads with/corces SecState on political ramifications and electioneering.

    Trump's attoerney then suggests legal shenanigans for getting around privacy law. Then Trump makes it clear he's thinking about his plausible deniability, "I don’t want to know who it is. You guys can do it very confidentially. You can sign a confidentiality agreement. That’s OK. I don’t need to know names."

    Impeach him again. I'll say it again.


    He should be prosecuted for crimes. Whatever about being impeached. This has gone far enough now.

    Biden has indicated that he's not 100% into encouraging prosecutions of Trump, but this stuff has surely forced his hand. Someone can't be allowed to get away with what Trump is trying to do there.


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    #1509
    Overheal
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    Guess who isn't specially immune from the Office of Legal Counsel opinion on indicting a sitting President?

    https://twitter.com/joelockhart/status/1345844057667493888?s=20


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    #1510
    everlast75
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    https://twitter.com/kristin__wilson/status/1345871193044377600?s=19


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    #1511
    Tippex
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    They can easily announce intent to impeach tomorrow and then if the dems win the 2 seats in GA it’s game on. I expect some sort of scrambling to pardon tonight.
    I’m assuming Raffenberger’s side has released the tape.

    TIKTOK your time is up.


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    #1512
    ohnonotgmail
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    Tippex wrote: »
    They can easily announce intent to impeach tomorrow and then if the dems win the 2 seats in GA it’s game on. I expect some sort of scrambling to pardon tonight.
    I’m assuming Raffenberger’s side has released the tape.

    TIKTOK your time is up.

    If what he has done is impeachable then a pardon will do him no good.


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    #1513
    Overheal
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    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    He should be prosecuted for crimes. Whatever about being impeached. This has gone far enough now.

    Biden has indicated that he's not 100% into encouraging prosecutions of Trump, but this stuff has surely forced his hand. Someone can't be allowed to get away with what Trump is trying to do there.

    Any lesser prosecution he can still pardon his coconspirators for. Pence can still pardon him for it.


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    #1514
    Tippex
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    If what he has done is impeachable then a pardon will do him no good.

    Does he not need to be pardoned before the impeachment tho? Then he cant be impeached?


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    #1515
    Overheal
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    If what he has done is impeachable then a pardon will do him no good.

    Unless he is never impeached. That's how Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. They had begun the inquiries and held hearings in the House. Nixon resigned and was pardoned before articles were voted on.


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    #1516
    Overheal
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    everlast75 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/kristin__wilson/status/1345871193044377600?s=19

    Closed with 342-1.

    edit: vote open in overtime. 357-2....


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    #1517
    ohnonotgmail
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    Tippex wrote: »
    Does he not need to be pardoned before the impeachment tho? Then he cant be impeached?

    a pardon will not prevent him from being impeached.


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    #1518
    Overheal
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    Tippex wrote: »
    They can easily announce intent to impeach tomorrow and then if the dems win the 2 seats in GA it’s game on. I expect some sort of scrambling to pardon tonight.
    I’m assuming Raffenberger’s side has released the tape.

    TIKTOK your time is up.

    That's why you won't hear such a strong response before the runoff. If they lose in Georgia, Trump is utterly ****ed and I'd be shocked if he doesn't issue more pardons that night if it turns up that way.


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    #1519
    Tell me how
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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1278845376901132291

    Shame on anyone who believed this BS.


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    #1520
    extra gravy
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    It's hilarious that after all their talk and ridiculous court cases, we finally have the proof of attempted election fraud and it's from Trump's own mouth. #lockhimup


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    #1521
    everlast75
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    How ****ing naive were Trump's supporters, all through Mueller?

    It was clear to anyone with their eyes open what kind of mafia wannabe cheat this guy was.

    Gullible isn't the word


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    #1522
    Overheal
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    everlast75 wrote: »
    How ****ing naive were Trump's supporters, all through Mueller?

    It was clear to anyone with their eyes open what kind of mafia wannabe cheat this guy was.

    Gullible isn't the word

    You probably won't be seeing those faces return around here.


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    #1523
    everlast75
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    https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1345878633915805696?s=19

    Jfc


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    #1524
    Overheal
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    everlast75 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1345878633915805696?s=19

    Jfc

    Doing that as an 'own the libs' ritual. Distract from the bombshell that just dropped.


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    #1525
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,330 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    everlast75 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1345878633915805696?s=19

    Jfc

    There is no bottom.


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    #1526
    Tippex
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    Gonna watch fox and see what they have to say


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    #1527
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    everlast75 wrote: »
    How ****ing naive were Trump's supporters, all through Mueller?

    It was clear to anyone with their eyes open what kind of mafia wannabe cheat this guy was.

    Gullible isn't the word


    They weren't being naive.Well, some were and some were outright fanatical but most of them were just being dishonest out of a sense of duty to the dear leader.


    Still, it's heartening that they've come to accept the error of their ways as can be seen by their brave scuttling away from this thread and into others where they can offer their expertise on race and Sweden.


    Warms the cockles so it does.


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    #1528
    [Deleted User]
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1278845376901132291

    Shame on anyone who believed this BS.

    I still think he was just tweeting about the tv show.


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    #1529
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    mcmoustache wrote: »
    They weren't being naive.Well, some were and some were outright fanatical but most of them were just being dishonest out of a sense of duty to the dear leader.


    Still, it's heartening that they've come to accept the error of their ways as can be seen by their brave scuttling away from this thread and into others where they can offer their expertise on race and Sweden.


    Warms the cockles so it does.

    In other words, trolling, need a update on their meds and he was someone to look up to because he liked to blame foreigners for how crap and hollow their life is.


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    #1530
    Tell me how
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    49:15 'Look, ultimately, I win, Okay'

    49:30 'your governor, he was down 21 points and like a SCHMUCK I endorsed him and he got elected.'

    This like a script from a Scorcese movie.

    Just on this line from the call.

    The Governor Trump is talking about is Brian Kemp. Trump did endorse him in Kemp's 2018 election to that office. The person Kemp defeated was Stacey Abrams. The same Stacey Abrams who led initiatives to register 800K voters to Georgian electoral roles in the run up to last November's election after Kemp had purged in the the region of 700K from the polls in the lead up to their fight.

    Trump, in complaining about Kemp now has clearly not got the capacity to stop for a second and think about just how his demands for favorable action would have been met if Abrams had won that election in 2018.

    He has no capacity to think or react to anything other than his immediate and primary desire to satisfy his own needs.


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    #1531
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,805 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    More jim Jones stuff

    https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1345788072693268481?s=19


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