Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

Pen Rua

AMKC wrote: »

Yes but that was before the Hyprid era. That started in 2014. That is what he is looking for so the poster above is probably right.

I would say Alonso has been with most teams in the hyprid era having been with Ferrari in 2014 then McLaren and now Alpine but not the most podiums. Although Vettel has also been with 3 teams now too on the Hyprid era with Red Bull in 2014 then Ferrari and now Aston Martin.

KMag also.
McLaren-Mercedes (2014) & McLaren-Honda (2015)
Renault (2016)
Haas (2017 - 2020)

Has the unique distinction to have used all 4 manufacturers' power units, although he DNS in the Honda.

flazio

Pretty sure Mag had already gone to Renault by the time McLaren started using the Honda. It was Button/Alonso first time out.

Pen Rua

flazio wrote: »

Pretty sure Mag had already gone to Renault by the time McLaren started using the Honda. It was Button/Alonso first time out.

He subbed for Alonso at the 2015 Australian Grand Prix. DNS for the race itself, but did FPs & quali.

El_Duderino 09

flazio wrote: »

Pretty sure Mag had already gone to Renault by the time McLaren started using the Honda. It was Button/Alonso first time out.

Did DRic ever use the Ferrari engine at TR or had they switched to Renault by then? He might have had three engines then too with Ferrari, Renault and now Mercedes.

Edit. I looked it up and Ric used the Ferrari engine at RT in 2012. So he has now used those three engines too. But not the Honda.

Pen Rua

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Did DRic ever use the Ferrari engine at TR or had they switched to Renault by then? He might have had three engines then too with Ferrari, Renault and now Mercedes.

Edit. I looked it up and Ric used the Ferrari engine at RT in 2012. So he has now used those three engines too. But not the Honda.

2012 was pre-hybrid.

AMKC

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Did DRic ever use the Ferrari engine at TR or had they switched to Renault by then? He might have had three engines then too with Ferrari, Renault and now Mercedes.

Edit. I looked it up and Ric used the Ferrari engine at RT in 2012. So he has now used those three engines too. But not the Honda.

Danial Ricciardo has only used the Renault and now Mercedes hyprid engines. The ferrari engine he used was not the Hyprid engine as it was before the Hyprid engines so it was the Ferrari V8 engine.

pjohnson

Hamilton has only ever used a Merc engine his entire career. (2007 - 2021)

Stroll has also only used Mercedes engines his whole career for 3 different teams. (All hybrid era)

Cork Trucker

Kevin Magnussen is the only one to have used all hybrid era engines (Ferrari with Haas, Mercedes with McLaren in 2014, Honda Australia 2015, Renault in 2016)

AMKC

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Kevin Magnussen is the only one to have used all hybrid era engines (Ferrari with Haas, Mercedes with McLaren in 2014, Honda Australia 2015, Renault in 2016)

I wonder which engine he would say he preferred to use.
I would go with the Renault one.

Jordan 199

AMKC

Jordan 199 wrote: »

That looks like a very boring track unless there is hills on it to or tonight sections like in Baku. 1, 2 , 13, 16 and 27 look like the most interesting parts as the rest will all be fairly straight forward fast corners.

El_Duderino 09

AMKC wrote: »

I wonder which engine he would say he preferred to use.
I would go with the Renault one.

Vettel has had the same 3 engines too. He was with red bull in 2014. Then Ferrari now a Mercedes powered AM. I suspect he prefers the Mercedes (or maybe the 2019 Ferrari)

Pen Rua

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Vettel has had the same 3 engines too. He was with red bull in 2014. Then Ferrari now a Mercedes powered AM. I suspect he prefers the Mercedes (or maybe the 2019 Ferrari)

He specifically said he's not going to comment out of respect for both Ferrari & Merc.

muckwarrior

In an ode to Silverstone's 'Hangar Straight', the main straight is set to be called 'Beheading Straight'.

SureYWouldntYa

muckwarrior wrote: »

In an ode to Silverstone's 'Hangar Straight', the main straight is set to be called 'Beheading Straight'.

And it's a counter clockwise circuit, because they don't want rights in Saudi Arabia

TCP/IP

Here is the video of the new circuit looks absolutely awful this looks to be another Hermann Tilke disaster of a track, where are the overtaking areas looks to be very few https://youtu.be/UCiNvuB56xg

ACitizenErased

Very honest assessment from Mercedes on testing

That track to me looks a bit boring and needlessly dangerous. Awful lot of easy flat-out kinks with walls nearby.

AMKC

Pen Rua wrote: »

He specifically said he's not going to comment out of respect for both Ferrari & Merc.

Well at least not till he is retired anyway. Would not want to put himself out of a job or chance in the future with another team like Alonso nearly did way back in 2007 with McLaren.

Frank Bullitt

Great video about the last time Merc had a bad preseason.

Jordan 199

Just one week to go to the first free practice session of the season :cool:

Charlie-Bravo

Roll on first race weekend....and Netflix Drive to Survive of course, which is a good recap on the year gone past.

pjohnson

I didnt expect thread so quiet after DTS was released.

recyclebin

Give us the weekend to watch it first!

Pen Rua

pjohnson wrote: »

I didnt expect thread so quiet after DTS was released.

It went live this AM and people still have a day's work / study to do :pac:

johnnysmack

pjohnson wrote: »

I didnt expect thread so quiet after DTS was released.

While I enjoyed season 1, season 2 felt like a tabloid and full of talking heads that I have no interest in eg Will Buxton. Episode 1 seems to be continuing in a similar fashion so....ugh.

Pen Rua

I have a real love / hate relationship with Will Buxton. I used to love his interviews that he would do when he was on US TV (Paddock Pass, is that what it was called?) but now I find him irritating 90% of the time. The tweets trying to drum up controversy (see the Merc filming day) are particularly irksome.

mickdw

I only watched season 1 of drive to survive there the other day - maybe its because its so old now but didnt think much of it.
Have seen season 2 when it was current and it was pretty good but nothing special.

Charlie-Bravo

Pen Rua wrote: »

I have a real love / hate relationship with Will Buxton. I used to love his interviews that he would do when he was on US TV (Paddock Pass, is that what it was called?) but now I find him irritating 90% of the time. The tweets trying to drum up controversy (see the Merc filming day) are particularly irksome.

Firstly, I like Will. And I loved Paddock Pass as it was raw, without gimmick and he just acted as himself all the time. But with social media, it is all about the number of views and the paid promotion stuff which lots of 'influencers' use to earn a pretty penny. I don't think he needed to do as much but why not maximise your earnings off your existing following. And yes, lots of click bait headlines when it's not actually a big deal!!

TBH the movement towards everything being about viewcount and "engagement" has ruined most media. Mainstream sports (soccer/GAA) always had enough idiots shouting to mean that decent journalism was a niche within itself. F1 had a tiny bit of quality control which has been let go. Can see it across sports (and other topics) where you have the old media lose a small proportion of viewers and over-correct to compete with much smaller, "new media" type stuff rather than just hold onto what they still have.
The Race isn't awful but they're fine with 10 minute mountain out of molehill videos with nonsense a lot of the time as well.