Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

barryribs

flazio wrote: »

Not that I think Gasly or Albon are bad drivers but I think Red Bull is the wrong team for them.
Such is the nature of Alpha Tauri's existence as Red Bulls development team that Gasly will have to move on eventually I hope it would be to somewhere like a resurgent Williams or McLaren.

Agree 100% on this. Gasly looks fantastic in that Alpha Tauri, he's been consistent on Sundays and great pace on Saturdays.

On Perez, it's a no brainer. If the gap between Red Bull and Mercedes is similar next year, I'd fancy him to beat Russell too when he inevitably joins Mercedes.

Charlie-Bravo

The AT car isn't a bad car, so the idea would be for Gasly to stay and improve himself and the car/team. But there is the question of the new regs next year. I think he and the team would be very unlucky if it did change the other way for them!

El_Duderino 09

Charlie-Bravo wrote: »

The AT car isn't a bad car, so the idea would be for Gasly to stay and improve himself and the car/team. But there is the question of the new regs next year. I think he and the team would be very unlucky if it did change the other way for them!

Yeah the Honda engine is a bonus to the AT car too. The fact that Tsunoda hasn't been a success (yet anyway) has knock on effects. It means that Perez is very safe at RB as they have no option to promote Tsunoda as he hasn't shown any inclination to be good enough. And it means they still need a good driver in Gasley to bring in the points.

RB has said Gasley has no long term future at their team, so he's essentially not a RB Driver anymore even though he's still at the red bull junior team. They don't want him long term.but they will surely keep him for next year. There are few other options. Bottas will come on the market soon but he's probably expensive compared to Gasley.

This is it

Anyone getting funny notifications from the F1 app? Just got something like "you should check your security" in a push notification.

This is it

This is it wrote: »

Anyone getting funny notifications from the F1 app? Just got something like "you should check your security" in a push notification.

Bunch of people on Formula Dank getting notifications just saying "foo" I think.

PopePalpatine

This is it wrote: »

Anyone getting funny notifications from the F1 app? Just got something like "you should check your security" in a push notification.

Yep. I wish they took the opportunity to take the piss out of the Da'esh Gold GP, but I guess they didn't want to wake up to a hit squad with bonesaws.

flazio

Yeah, I reckon there's been a hack. I've uninstalled the app until I hear an all clear from official sources. I got the two push notifications despite the fact I turned off notifications for the F1 app.

Captain_Crash

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Bunch of people on Formula Dank getting notifications just saying "foo" I think.

Yeah I got that earlier…. It’s odd and I’ve deleted the app just in case

Hijpo

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Yeah I got that earlier…. It’s odd and I’ve deleted the app just in case

Is that an app that requires an account and login?
Not to scare monger but I would be changing my passwords on other accounts if I was using the same credentials on other accounts/apps

Captain_Crash

Hijpo wrote: »

Is that an app that requires an account and login?
Not to scare monger but I would be changing my passwords on other accounts if I was using the same credentials on other accounts/apps

No it’s just the F1 app, no login required or anything. You can create an account and sign up for all sorts if you like but I use it as a news app only which doesn’t require a login

El_Duderino 09

This is it wrote: »

Anyone getting funny notifications from the F1 app? Just got something like "you should check your security" in a push notification.

I subscribe to the f1 app for the live timing but haven't gotten any notifications. Maybe the f1 app is separate from the live timing app.

El_Duderino 09

Does anyone think there's a possibility that mclaren will drop Ric for next year? I don't think anyone believes he's actually that much slower than Norris, but he's really struggling this year. Bottas will be on the market next year and he might be looking for a Mclaren drive.

If mclaren have any performance clauses in Rics contract, then I'm pretty sure he's not meeting them, so there might be a brake clause in the contract

Dont be at yourself

With the new cars coming next year, I think Ric will stay on. It’s clear there’s an issue with this current car and Ricciardo — he hasn’t lost his talent. Still, he’ll need to close the gap to Norris this year, if even for his own confidence.

MadYaker

Yeah it is odd that he can't seem to get to grips with the car, I think they will give him next year as well to be honest, I don't think he's suddenly lost the ability to drive.

El_Duderino 09

MadYaker wrote: »

Yeah it is odd that he can't seem to get to grips with the car, I think they will give him next year as well to be honest, I don't think he's suddenly lost the ability to drive.

Yeah I don't think anyone suggests he's lost his ability to drive but if he's getting results like he is currently getting and Lando can get the results he's currently getting, then they're wasting huge potential (and wages) on Ric. He just doesn't seem to be able to get the pace from that car. He was 3 hundredths od a second from going out in q1 yesterday.

Ric has been a great driver but that knowledge is of little use to mclaren if he can't drive their car. But with the regulations changes next year they'll surely give him another year. Whatever makes it hard for him to drive might not be in next year's car.

Must be a big knock to Ric to go from being regarded amongst the top drivers, to being unable to get the pace from the Mclaren and being hammered by Norris.

Andrew76

I wouldn't fancy Bottas to do any better than Ricciardo tbh - that would be a step backwards. They'll give him another year I reckon.

El_Duderino 09

Andrew76 wrote: »

I wouldn't fancy Bottas to do any better than Ricciardo tbh - that would be a step backwards. They'll give him another year I reckon.

Not if they're both firing on all cylinders, but Ric is definitely not firing on all cylinders in the mclaren. If bottas was getting his best out of the car, it would almost certainly be better than how much ric is getting out of it - even though ric surely has more potential in general than Bottas. Plus bottas is cheaper than Ric. But I suppose Bottas is coming on the market this year and Ric isn't likely to be fired this year, so it doesn't really matter.

quokula

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Not if they're both firing on all cylinders, but Ric is definitely not firing on all cylinders in the mclaren. If bottas was getting his best out of the car, it would almost certainly be better than how much ric is getting out of it - even though ric surely has more potential in general than Bottas. Plus bottas is cheaper than Ric. But I suppose Bottas is coming on the market this year and Ric isn't likely to be fired this year, so it doesn't really matter.

If McLaren want to replace Ricciardo they’d surely want someone of his calibre, very hard to imagine them wanting someone like Bottas who would most likely do worse.

The only driver I can think of right now who’s potentially a free agent and would fit the bill is Gasly, or otherwise they could take a punt on a younger driver with potential like Schumacher.

flazio

Do McLaren still have a young driver programme? It's where we got Hamilton and Button from.

El_Duderino 09

flazio wrote: »

Do McLaren still have a young driver programme? It's where we got Hamilton and Button from.

Norris is a mclaren young driver.
I thought Button was a pay driver. Didn't he make his debut with BAR ? Or was it Williams?

Jordan 199

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Norris is a mclaren young driver.
I thought Button was a pay driver. Didn't he make his debut with BAR ? Or was it Williams?

Button made his debut with Williams in 2000.

flazio

Oh yeah, my bad. Question remains though. Are McLaren involved in bringing any young talent up?

afatbollix

Yes, Hamilton was signed up from about the age of 8!

Lando was also part of it.


They have long had a driver program.

pjohnson

Button did test for McLaren (and Prost) in 1999 before joining Williams iirc.

skipper_G

flazio wrote: »

Oh yeah, my bad. Question remains though. Are McLaren involved in bringing any young talent up?

As of now they have only 1 driver active in their programme, a young American lad still in karting

El_Duderino 09

flazio wrote: »

Oh yeah, my bad. Question remains though. Are McLaren involved in bringing any young talent up?

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/team/young-driver-programme/

Seems they have a few drivers in the programme at the moment.

the_pen_turner

ocon having a bad run of races. this week was a disaster

skipper_G

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/team/young-driver-programme/

Seems they have a few drivers in the programme at the moment.

Their website isn't quite up to date, Sergio Sette Camara left the programme last season to rejoin Red Bull as a development driver and De Vries is a Mercedes development driver and in the Merc formula e works team

Jordan 199

the_pen_turner wrote: »

ocon having a bad run of races. this week was a disaster

He had a right stinker of a weekend. Considering he just signed a new contract with Alpine recently, you'd expect him to perform beter.

Jordan 199

Does anyone know if the British Grand Prix will be live on C4 this year?