BGW and DGW 20/21 Discussion thread

Ginger n Lemon

Am I the only 1 going without KDB into this DGW? Or any City players altogether?

1 goal from open play and we are gw 19.. I love KDB dont get me wrong but I have a funny feeling that if he had 3 more shots vs Brighton he still wouldnt have scored.

He ll be up against Guaita and Martinez who are very good goalkeepers.

NabyLadistheman

JPA wrote: »

True but he's actually complaining about being tired now!

If he was that tired Pep would have taken him off, it was the 90th minute and he didn't want the peno. I wouldn't be reading too much into Pep's tired comments. he is mainly playing only league games and City need him on the pitch. Just my opinion

JPA

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Am I the only 1 going without KDB into this DGW? Or any City players altogether?

1 goal from open play and we are gw 19.. I love KDB dont get me wrong but I have a funny feeling that if he had 3 more shots vs Brighton he still wouldnt have scored.

He ll be up against Guaita and Martinez who are very good goalkeepers.

No defenders is a mistake since they've only conceded 2 goals in 9 games.

Ginger n Lemon

JPA wrote: »

No defenders is a mistake since they've only conceded 2 goals in 9 games.

But I have Dallas, Robertson & Coufal. Cant possibly change any of them for a City defender.

But the issue I actually have with City defenders is that goal contributions is non existent, I think between Cancelo/Dias/Stones there is only 1 assist.

If I was to change any of the 3 of mine I'd go for Justin..

Chesty08

Imagine the deadline was tomorrow night!

Chesty08

JPA wrote: »

True but he's actually complaining about being tired now!

He has been complaining since internationals when he said he didn’t have time to go back to the Ethihad for juice

Chesty08

TC Salah anyone?

Pen against United and then a goal & assist in next game ?

TimesArrow

TimesArrow wrote: »

So I’m not sure whether to play the BB for next game week. Leeds postponement has scuppered plans. I still have 2nd wildcard so could activate that before the weekend. Any thoughts? Number of games in brackets

Martinez (2)
Justin (2)
Robertson ( 2)
Chilwell (2)
ESR ( 1)
Soucek ( 2)
Fernandez ( 2)
Salah (2)
Son (1)
Vardy 2
Bamford (1)

McCarthy ( 1)
Adams ( 1)
KWP ( 1)
Dallas ( 1)

Now thinking i might TC salah and save BB for another time? Help! Very good chance I’ll panic come saturday

Shedite27

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Am I the only 1 going without KDB into this DGW? Or any City players altogether?

1 goal from open play and we are gw 19.. I love KDB dont get me wrong but I have a funny feeling that if he had 3 more shots vs Brighton he still wouldnt have scored.

He ll be up against Guaita and Martinez who are very good goalkeepers.

I only have Cancelo, get him, DIas or Stones I'd say

COH

Im going without City players... aside from the roulette and the coulda/woulda/shoulda points performances from them Id have to take hits to get them in.

Dr. Bre

COH wrote: »

Im going without City players... aside from the roulette and the coulda/woulda/shoulda points performances from them Id have to take hits to get them in.

You could be burnt by city players

Ginger n Lemon

Dr. Bre wrote: »

You could be burnt by city players

I'd say he is more likely to be burnt without Vardy, Salah and potentially even Antonio.

bangkok

Chesty08 wrote: »

TC Salah anyone?

Pen against United and then a goal & assist in next game ?

yea he is always a threat. its either him or de bruyne for treble captain, was going to use bench boost but not all my players playing so will be wasted.

last year when i used treble captain, i got 3 pts total for 2 games

think it was kane, played the first game and got booked, never played 2nd game at all

Porthallian

bangkok wrote: »

last year when i used treble captain, i got 3 pts total for 2 games

think it was kane, played the first game and got booked, never played 2nd game at all

This is why I'm strongly considering going Bruno - KdB.
Also have no other way of getting him without hits.

CSF

bangkok wrote: »

yea he is always a threat. its either him or de bruyne for treble captain, was going to use bench boost but not all my players playing so will be wasted.

last year when i used treble captain, i got 3 pts total for 2 games

think it was kane, played the first game and got booked, never played 2nd game at all

Mane right?

bangkok

CSF wrote: »

Mane right?

could have been... all i know is i got 3pts

Porthallian

CSF wrote: »

Mane right?

Think Mane got injured rather than booked? If memory serves correct. Rival in my ML had him TC'ed that same dgw.

bangkok

Porthallian wrote: »

This is why I'm strongly considering going Bruno - KdB.
Also have no other way of getting him without hits.

i can see bruno getting booked v liverpool and suspended for the next game

KathleenGrant

bangkok wrote: »

yea he is always a threat. its either him or de bruyne for treble captain, was going to use bench boost but not all my players playing so will be wasted.

last year when i used treble captain, i got 3 pts total for 2 games

think it was kane, played the first game and got booked, never played 2nd game at all

I got the same first year of triple captain. Lukaku in a dgw, didn't play one game and got booked in the second. 3 points for 2 games. I was expecting s real haul.

Porthallian

bangkok wrote: »

i can see bruno getting booked v liverpool and suspended for the next game

That's my big worry. Also having no City attack would be insanity so I think I've made my mind up.

Ginger n Lemon

Porthallian wrote: »

That's my big worry. Also having no City attack would be insanity so I think I've made my mind up.

You arent actually gonna sell bruno for KDB are you? now that would be insanity :pac:

Porthallian

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You arent actually gonna sell bruno for KDB are you? now that would be insanity :pac:

No other way of getting KdB in really. If he gets booked against Liverpool I'll be back here to gloat :pac:

Ginger n Lemon

Porthallian wrote: »

No other way of getting KdB in really. If he gets booked against Liverpool I'll be back here to gloat :pac:

Nooooo. Dont do that now.

Its a bit like playing poker, if u play with fear you arent gonna get far. Bruno got 4 cards in like 17 games, thats 1 in 4 games. If he does not in fact get a yellow and goes on to score 2 vs Fulham, wont be much gloating to be done then.

Bruno is the sort of guy that can actually score against Pool and you wouldnt be surprised. Liverpool havent exactly been steam rolling clubs over, and have big defence problems.

siblers

Porthallian wrote: »

Think Mane got injured rather than booked? If memory serves correct. Rival in my ML had him TC'ed that same dgw.

Yeah, I triple captained him too. Got Injured very early in the game

ThunbergsAreGo

I need an Ollie Watkins Twitter/Instagram post telling me it's all right

sully123

I see vardy is fit now.
Might be a candidate for capt. Surely he'll start x2.

joeyboy11

Newbie20 wrote: »

I could be (and probably will be) completely wrong here but I’m not sure about De Bruyne. Everyone seems to be making changes the last few weeks to get him in but I’m not sure he’s worth it. Granted they have an appealing looking double fixture, but last night was my first time watching them properly this season. Now I can understand why he hasn’t been clocking up points like previous seasons - they’ve no threat up front! They are basically playing without a striker, Jesus came on and looked pathetic, Sterling - well that penalty was a disgrace and Aguero seems to be out for another bit again. They made Brighton look very good last night. I’d nearly be favouring 2 City defenders and no KDB.

Been thinking this too. He’s blanked for me too many times as captain. I have double city defence and think I’ll get stones in and go triple until he 22!

CSF

joeyboy11 wrote: »

Been thinking this too. He’s blanked for me too many times as captain. I have double city defence and think I’ll get stones in and go triple until he 22!

I'd be a bit wary of confirmation biases from that game last night. They had an xG of 2.91 last night so while they tailed off in the 2nd half, they were still very very threatening.


De Bruyne had an xG of 1.06 and an xA of 0.21 so he really underperformed last night, especially when you consider that those stats don't even address the fact that he should have had a goal or an assist from the penalty last night on another night.


He has basically gotten a 6 point return from a 14 point performance, and given that he is literally coming from a 13 point return before that, I would advise to either choose him or fear him.

Pogue eile

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Nooooo. Dont do that now.

Its a bit like playing poker, if u play with fear you arent gonna get far. Bruno got 4 cards in like 17 games, thats 1 in 4 games. If he does not in fact get a yellow and goes on to score 2 vs Fulham, wont be much gloating to be done then.

Bruno is the sort of guy that can actually score against Pool and you wouldnt be surprised. Liverpool havent exactly been steam rolling clubs over, and have big defence problems.

Bruno has not looked anywhere near the same threat the last few games though, the more prominent that Pogba becomes the more peripheral Bruno becomes, I will be making the same Bruno - KDB move and I haven't given it a second thought to be honest.

Porthallian

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Nooooo. Dont do that now.

Its a bit like playing poker, if u play with fear you arent gonna get far. Bruno got 4 cards in like 17 games, thats 1 in 4 games. If he does not in fact get a yellow and goes on to score 2 vs Fulham, wont be much gloating to be done then.

Bruno is the sort of guy that can actually score against Pool and you wouldnt be surprised. Liverpool havent exactly been steam rolling clubs over, and have big defence problems.

Not playing with fear. I'm going all in on KdB :pac:
If Bruno scores against Liverpool you have my permission to say I told you so

Dr. Bre

Pogue eile wrote: »

Bruno has not looked anywhere near the same threat the last few games though, the more prominent that Pogba becomes the more peripheral Bruno becomes, I will be making the same Bruno - KDB move and I haven't given it a second thought to be honest.

Bruno 2 games after pool are Fulham and Sheffield. I am going to take a chance he’s not booked!

normanoffside

Any thoughts on freehit Draft 1?

Martinez

Coufal-Cancelo-Justin

KDB-Salah-Rashford-Soucek-Mount

Wilson-Vardy

Bench: Johnstone-Decrodova-Reid- Lowton-Yedlin.

Pogue eile

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Bruno 2 games after pool are Fulham and Sheffield. I am going to take a chance he’s not booked!

Take out the first 3 weeks when Fulham were incredibly naive they have been very solid at the back, certainly much worse defenses in the league.

Ginger n Lemon

Pogue eile wrote: »

Bruno has not looked anywhere near the same threat the last few games though, the more prominent that Pogba becomes the more peripheral Bruno becomes, I will be making the same Bruno - KDB move and I haven't given it a second thought to be honest.

He scored 4 goals and assisted 3 times in last 5 games. dont be dissing Bruno. :pac:

Selling Bruno when he has a DGW... its like 1 of those things that you do not do.

CSF

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

He scored 4 goals and assisted 3 times in last 5 games. dont be dissing Bruno. :pac:

Selling Bruno when he has a DGW... its like 1 of those things that you do not do.

I would never sell him but last 3 games he has looked less threatening in general play. I think Pogba hinders him in terms of the positions he can take up.

joeyboy11

CSF wrote: »

I would never sell him but last 3 games he has looked less threatening in general play. I think Pogba hinders him in terms of the positions he can take up.

Was listening to a podcast and they backed this up with some stats (can’t remember which ones exactly) in a 14 game sample size. 7 games Bruno playing with Pogba and 7 without.
I still won’t be selling him but it is something to be aware of

FHFC

sully123 wrote: »

I see vardy is fit now.
Might be a candidate for capt. Surely he'll start x2.

Dinnery has been saying that Vardy being managed and needs to e to recocer between games so may not start both.

I don't think I buy it. He'll start the against Southampton for sure after a 2 week break, and surely they don't bench Vardy at home to Chelsea.

I've planned on him for the DGW with my wildcard - switch from Kane who I captained this week. I'm think I'm gonna hold firm to the plan.

c.p.w.g.w

Anymore fixture upheaval rumours?

CSF

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Anymore fixture upheaval rumours?

Not just yet. Here’s hoping for a bit of rare calm

Green&Red

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

He scored 4 goals and assisted 3 times in last 5 games. dont be dissing Bruno. :pac:

Selling Bruno when he has a DGW... its like 1 of those things that you do not do.

He’s played 10 times with and seven times without Pogba. His stats fall off a cliff with Pogba. You can see why, Pogba is standing exactly where you’d like Bruno to be. If Pogba continues in the team Bruno will have to go, just not the same asset

Edit: just checked the points 5.1/game Pogba starts, 11.6/game Pogba doesn’t

shmeee

Chesty08 wrote: »

TC Salah anyone?

Pen against United and then a goal & assist in next game ?

I'm after moving away from BB due to the disaster of games getting called off and now TC on Mo is my number 1 option if I use any chip at all.

Like a BB with 4 SGW players may yeld maybe 16ish points if I can hit anyway but then the risk of players not playing also is involved.

TC on Mo wouldn't be too far off getting an extra 16 points if it hit. Need to weigh out all the options and potential returns!

Ace2007

Looking at Smith Rowe and Lacazette to Soucek and 10m striker.

Really can't see any reliable striker out there who is guaranteed to play both games, however would it be madness to take a punt on Werner, have never owned him, but he should be starting both games - thoughts?

CSF

Ace2007 wrote: »

Looking at Smith Rowe and Lacazette to Soucek and 10m striker.

Really can't see any reliable striker out there who is guaranteed to play both games, however would it be madness to take a punt on Werner, have never owned him, but he should be starting both games - thoughts?

I just think the problem there is that you won’t want Werner afterwards, but him and Vardy are both perfectly viable for this week.

CSF

Had a look at the FH team I was going with before they scheduled Spurs Fulham instead of just cancelling it.

Jesus, this was not a week for the FH template team.

Ace2007

CSF wrote: »

I just think the problem there is that you won’t want Werner afterwards, but him and Vardy are both perfectly viable for this week.

Vardy's hip problem could mean restricted time- can he play two games in 3 days? maybe, maybe not, - otherwise he would probably be the best shout - although I've owned him on 2 separate occasions this season already (8 games he's played for me) but he rarely ever seems to be involved and lived for penalties in the early games, don't think I want to bring him back in again.

On Werner, if he returned 10 points over the week it would be a success I feel. It's just so hard this season that there are no really good strikers that are a must. And even less for the this DGW.

CSF

Ace2007 wrote: »

Vardy's hip problem could mean restricted time- can he play two games in 3 days? maybe, maybe not, - otherwise he would probably be the best shout - although I've owned him on 2 separate occasions this season already (8 games he's played for me) but he rarely ever seems to be involved and lived for penalties in the early games, don't think I want to bring him back in again.

On Werner, if he returned 10 points over the week it would be a success I feel. It's just so hard this season that there are no really good strikers that are a must. And even less for the this DGW.

I think the problem with having expensive strikers is it takes money away from where the good players are.

Did a 2 game spell with Kane for 20 points and now I’m going back to my Salah/Grealish/KDB/Son/Bruno midfield that I’ve been doing well with.

Rikand

I'm thinking about bringing in Antonio for the DGW

Stupid or Stupider like a fox ?

They have no other actual striker now that Haller is gone and the fixtures are super

PARlance

Rikand wrote: »

I'm thinking about bringing in Antonio for the DGW

Stupid or Stupider like a fox ?

They have no other actual striker now that Haller is gone and the fixtures are super

The only question is whether to TC him or not, my fox!

Tiger Roll

Rikand wrote:

I'm thinking about bringing in Antonio for the DGW

Who are you taking out for him ?

Muahahaha

Thinking of benching Son and starting Foden as he has a DGW. If Foden doesnt start the first game and Son comes on what happens Fodens second game if he starts? Is it no points as Son stays in place and has no second game?