Interdepartmental Higher Executive Officer 2020 - (Serving Civil Servants ONLY)

Itchyfeet89

doc22 wrote: »

People recruited from the general panel could have this proficiency anyway. In an office there normally a single designated person who deal with such requests. Sure most of us have done 12 years of Irish education and should be proficient:pac:

Yes, I agree but my point is people on the Irish language panel should be given the same merit if doing sequencing of panels correctly when filling vacancies.

Senseless Betty

Itchyfeet89 wrote: »

Irish EO Panel is extremely slow moving. They have recruited v few people from it. I wouldn't mind but I am top of my county in panel and a certain percentage of people recruited to Govt departments should have proficiency in Irish even though there might be v little actual Irish language work. I get the feeling people are only being pulled from this panel if a department specifically requests an Irish speaker as otherwise, PAS are not pulling of this panel which breaks the sequencing of panels guideline when filling positions....This panel should be given the same merit as general EO panels when filling positions.

That's the whole point of the Irish panel, to fill vacancies when a department specifically looks for an Irish speaker, it's the skill that they are looking for. They don't fill general vacancies from it the same way they wouldn't fill general vacancies from an ICT panel or similar.

keepkeyyellow

I know it’s probably jumping the gun here but does anyone have any recommendations or experience of interview training ? I’m anticipating an internal interview as well this year so could work for both.

lucybousy

Do they now shortlist on application form or what is the next step presentation and interview?

Get In There

Scored 99 for both verbal & management tests.

OOM placement for:

Dublin 679
Meath 78

What are my chances of getting a call?

RC01

lucybousy wrote: »

Do they now shortlist on application form or what is the next step presentation and interview?

The below is at the end of your results message

"It is initially intended to invite candidates who selected Dublin as a location choice and who were placed up to and including place 366 on the order of merit (OOM) to Stage 2 – Video Shortlisting (Please note that this number is subject to change). Video shortlisting for regional location choices will take place on a later date. We will contact you should we reach your place on the order of merit.





An invitation to attend any part of the selection process is not to be taken as implying that the Public Appointments Service is satisfied that such a person fulfils the eligibility of the post."

lucat

If the other competitions running atm are anything to go by, next step is most likely a Sonru interview and they'll shortlist based on that.

PandaJ

onlydaughter30 wrote: »

I would imagine you will get called - you are low down on the list - you will get a new placing after the selection process is completed. This then will be your place on the panel to be called when a HEO place becomes available. Congrats!!

Thanking you, that's given me a lot of hope!!

Connected99

Gickyk wrote: »

I doubt this is true - regionals are normally called together (all counties outside the belt) so even if someone wasn't offered a position from an Inter'd PAS would still have had to form a panel.

If it is the case that no one from the Inter'd panel got a position you could assume that these areas 'owe' to the inter'd panel and therefore candidates from the Inter'd will get offered positions quickly this time.

Yep it's true for some counties.... Depends on demand as to whether a panel is formed or not for each county...
For 2019 InterD competition
I got through all stages unsupervised and supervised tests, Application form shortlisting etc and still waiting for Interview (almost 2 years later).
1 County I picked... There was no panel formed as there was no demand for the HEO grade for that county..
And for the other county I scored in the 50s and was never called for interview
But there was a panel formed for that county and only 6 were placed on it towards end of 2019.. The last I heard there is still 1 person on that panel and the panel expires 30/04/21.
I picked different county this time...

As far as I am know for this competition the stages are Video interview, an E tray exercise possibly and then main/full competency interview...
And no presentations will be required for this years competition
It seems to be the process PAS are using for recent/current competitions.
But this is only guessing/going on the recent competition interview stages....

Augme

I'll be amazed if the rest of the stages aren't video shortlisting followed by video interview followed by video presentation.

Gickyk

Foxy1987 wrote: »

Hi guys congrats to everyone who got through I’m down for Sligo and Leitrim. I have heard that in the last interD no one got to interview stage for these areas which is annoying! Just wondering if anyone knows the way they are calling from interD panels is it 1 off internal and 1 off the interD or is there just no logic at all!? Thanks in advance

I have gone through my Depts published list of promotions and assignments for 2019/20 and could find only 4 Inter'd HEO promotions 1 x Leitrim Q3 2019 3 x Sligo Q1 (2) & Q4 (1) 2019.

verses

Internal

Q4 2020 0 Leitrim 0 Sligo
Q3 2020 1 Leitrim 3 Sligo
Q1/2 2020 3 Leitrim 1 Sligo

Q4 2019 0 Leitrim 0 Sligo
Q3 2019 1 Leitrim 0 Sligo
Q2 2019 0 Leitrim 0 Sligo
Q1 2019 0 Leitrim 1 Sligo

4:10

They state that vacancies will be filled in the following order;
internal
Non-internal (Inter'd/open)
1 in 5 on nationwide transfer

As far as I am aware this list does not reflect transfers. I assume the Dept follows this order and not the individual offices. i.e. position filled from internal in Sligo means next promotion nationwide should be from inter'd panel etc. etc.

Not sure if that helps or what to make of it!

cmac8

I assume this is for just 1 Department and within those particular counties, there would be other Department ( albeit smaller) than would have also taken in InterD employees off that panel. The turnover of staff in my own Dept. since Covid ( and WFH was implemented) has been very small in comparison to other years and it wouldn't surprise me that once we are in the "new normal" and staff have to go back to the office in some capacity, that there could be a raft of retirements which might open up more opportunities for people in this panel that weren't available to the previous one.

Gickyk

cmac8 wrote: »

I assume this is for just 1 Department and within those particular counties, there would be other Department ( albeit smaller) than would have also taken in InterD employees off that panel. The turnover of staff in my own Dept. since Covid ( and WFH was implemented) has been very small in comparison to other years and it wouldn't surprise me that once we are in the "new normal" and staff have to go back to the office in some capacity, that there could be a raft of retirements which might open up more opportunities for people in this panel that weren't available to the previous one.

Yes, just my current Depart and yes I imagine there would be other Depts in these counties. The original post said they heard no one was called for an interview within these counties last competition - my post was to give hope not suggest there was little movement.

Kenevil

Just received this from PAS.... fairly quick with stage 2


Dear Kenevil,

 

I refer to your application for the above mentioned competition. I am pleased to inform you that you are now being invited to complete Stage 2 of the selection process. Stage 2 of the selection process consists of an online video interview (shortlisting).

 

 

Your testing window for completion of this assessment is:

 

Wednesday, 31st March 2021 until midnight on Thursday, 8th April 2021

insert name here 123

Kenevil wrote: »

Just received this from PAS.... fairly quick with stage 2


Dear Kenevil,

 

I refer to your application for the above mentioned competition. I am pleased to inform you that you are now being invited to complete Stage 2 of the selection process. Stage 2 of the selection process consists of an online video interview (shortlisting).

 

 

Your testing window for completion of this assessment is:

 

Wednesday, 31st March 2021 until midnight on Thursday, 8th April 2021

Is it a presentation (on a particular subject) you have to complete? Or is it a formal interview?

Longfordgal

Kenevil wrote: »

Just received this from PAS.... fairly quick with stage 2


Dear Kenevil,

 

I refer to your application for the above mentioned competition. I am pleased to inform you that you are now being invited to complete Stage 2 of the selection process. Stage 2 of the selection process consists of an online video interview (shortlisting).

 

 

Your testing window for completion of this assessment is:

 

Wednesday, 31st March 2021 until midnight on Thursday, 8th April 2021

Well done! That's fast, I presume that's Dublin... Best of luck.

Kenevil

Longfordgal wrote: »

Well done! That's fast, I presume that's Dublin... Best of luck.

Thanks a mill, yeah its for Dublin... better start preparing

Kerbie

Kenevil wrote: »

Just received this from PAS.... fairly quick with stage 2


Dear Kenevil,

 

I refer to your application for the above mentioned competition. I am pleased to inform you that you are now being invited to complete Stage 2 of the selection process. Stage 2 of the selection process consists of an online video interview (shortlisting).

 

 

Your testing window for completion of this assessment is:

 

Wednesday, 31st March 2021 until midnight on Thursday, 8th April 2021

Best of luck

lucat

insert name here 123 wrote: »

Is it a presentation (on a particular subject) you have to complete? Or is it a formal interview?

It's a Sonru interview. You've to record yourself answering questions which are given in the familiarisation booklet. 3 mins per answer. I think Sonru are a recruitment test company like Cut-e or SOVA etc., you can look them up online.

Longfordgal

lucat wrote: »

It's a Sonru interview. You've to record yourself answering questions which are given in the familiarisation booklet. 3 mins per answer. I think Sonru are a recruitment test company like Cut-e or SOVA etc., you can look them up online.

https://www.wikijob.co.uk/content/interview-advice/interview-types/sonru-video-interview-tips

This might be of help..

insert name here 123

lucat wrote: »

It's a Sonru interview. You've to record yourself answering questions which are given in the familiarisation booklet. 3 mins per answer. I think Sonru are a recruitment test company like Cut-e or SOVA etc., you can look them up online.

Cheers

Kenevil

insert name here 123 wrote: »

Is it a presentation (on a particular subject) you have to complete? Or is it a formal interview?

I think this has already been answered but its a one way interview, they ask questions and we have to record our answers.

Longfordgal

Kenevil wrote: »

I think this has already been answered but its a one way interview, they ask questions and we have to record our answers.

Do we know in advance what the questions will be?

insert name here 123

Kenevil wrote: »

I think this has already been answered but its a one way interview, they ask questions and we have to record our answers.

Best of luck with it

HydroTendonMan

Longfordgal wrote: »

Do we know in advance what the questions will be?

Yes, they are supplied in the familiarisation material.

caarp

Best of luck everyone with the next stage of tests. Very quick turnaround alright. Not sure if it helps but there is a AP thread here where there's a lot of information on this new online video assessment. I realize that the type of questions would be different but there are some goods points on the actual practice of sitting the video assessment. Could be useful?

EER40

Kenevil wrote: »

Just received this from PAS.... fairly quick with stage 2


Dear Kenevil,

 

I refer to your application for the above mentioned competition. I am pleased to inform you that you are now being invited to complete Stage 2 of the selection process. Stage 2 of the selection process consists of an online video interview (shortlisting).

 

 

Your testing window for completion of this assessment is:

 

Wednesday, 31st March 2021 until midnight on Thursday, 8th April 2021

Best of luck 🀞

Uncle Pierre

HydroTendonMan wrote: »

Yes, they are supplied in the familiarisation material.

Wonder if there's any chance of anybody posting the questions here, since they seem to be just standard ones that are included in a booklet sent to everybody called for the next stage anyway?

Longfordgal

Having checked back over all my messages in relation to this Interdepartmental Competition, I cannot find the familiarization material for the Video Interview (shortlisting) as mentioned. I've not been called yet, as I'm not on the Dublin panel... perhaps the familiarisation material is not issued until we are notified and called for the Video Interview. Am I correct?

Purpletoes

Longfordgal wrote: »

Having checked back over all my messages in relation to this Interdepartmental Competition, I cannot find the familiarization material for the Video Interview (shortlisting) as mentioned. I've not been called yet, as I'm not on the Dublin panel... perhaps the familiarisation material is not issued until we are notified and called for the Video Interview. Am I correct?

It issues with the email to invite your to the next stage. It’s like that in all the competitions.

Uncle Pierre

Yeah, I'm not on the Dublin panel either, but am in the top 10 for two other counties, so would expect to be called whenever they get to the regions. That's why I was wondering if somebody in Dublin might put up details of the video interview questions. Might give the culchies like myself here a bit of a jump start.

keepkeyyellow

I wouldn’t advise anyone to post the interview questions.

See below from circular on the competition.

It is important to remember that this is a competitive process for a role where integrity is paramount. Sharing information on the test material, e.g. through social media or any other means, may result in you being disqualified from the competition.
Please note that all test materials are subject to copyright and all rights are reserved. No part of the test material (including passages of information, questions or answer options) or associated materials may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means including electronic, mechanical, photocopying, photographing, recording, written or otherwise, at any stage. To do so is an offence and may result in you being excluded from the selection process. Any person who contravenes this provision, or who assists another person(s) in contravening this provision, is liable to prosecution and/or civil suit for loss of copyright and intellectual property.

Purpletoes

Uncle Pierre wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not on the Dublin panel either, but am in the top 10 for two other counties, so would expect to be called whenever they get to the regions. That's why I was wondering if somebody in Dublin might put up details of the video interview questions. Might give the culchies like myself here a bit of a jump start.

I’m the same as you, top ten in my counties but I think once you know the competencies and have your examples back to front and inside out you you should be ok. ... hopefully

The_Conductor

Uncle Pierre wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not on the Dublin panel either, but am in the top 10 for two other counties, so would expect to be called whenever they get to the regions. That's why I was wondering if somebody in Dublin might put up details of the video interview questions. Might give the culchies like myself here a bit of a jump start.

There are a fair few culchies here- myself included!

Uncle Pierre

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

I wouldn’t advise anyone to post the interview questions.

See below from circular on the competition.

It is important to remember that this is a competitive process for a role where integrity is paramount. Sharing information on the test material, e.g. through social media or any other means, may result in you being disqualified from the competition.

I was mindful of that before I asked all right, but to my mind, it doesn't actually apply here, since I was just asking about something that's in the information booklet. To me, it seems no different than how there were questions and some discussion here prior to Stages 1(a) and 1(b) about information contained in the booklet for those.

My understanding of the bit you quoted is that it warns people against sharing material from the tests themselves - e.g. nobody should post something like:
"Passage 1 in the verbal assessment is _______________ and the answer is "cannot say" because ___________"

Still, it's grand if people decide not to put up that info from the booklet here anyway. Reckon I'll see them in due course anyway.

Connected99

Uncle Pierre wrote: »

I was mindful of that before I asked all right, but to my mind, it doesn't actually apply here, since I was just asking about something that's in the information booklet. To me, it seems no different than how there were questions and some discussion here prior to Stages 1(a) and 1(b) about information contained in the booklet for those.

My understanding of the bit you quoted is that it warns people against sharing material from the tests themselves - e.g. nobody should post something like:
"Passage 1 in the verbal assessment is _______________ and the answer is "cannot say" because ___________"

Still, it's grand if people decide not to put up that info from the booklet here anyway. Reckon I'll see them in due course anyway.

The questions are not in the main information booklet..

It is only when you are called to the next stage you are issued with the 3 questions for your Video interview.....

I hope that makes sense... 😊

Kenevil

Uncle Pierre wrote: »

I was mindful of that before I asked all right, but to my mind, it doesn't actually apply here, since I was just asking about something that's in the information booklet. To me, it seems no different than how there were questions and some discussion here prior to Stages 1(a) and 1(b) about information contained in the booklet for those.

My understanding of the bit you quoted is that it warns people against sharing material from the tests themselves - e.g. nobody should post something like:
"Passage 1 in the verbal assessment is _______________ and the answer is "cannot say" because ___________"

Still, it's grand if people decide not to put up that info from the booklet here anyway. Reckon I'll see them in due course anyway.

I personally won't post the exact questions that have been given in the information booklet as i d9n't want to risk jeopardising my position.... but i will say if you go through the AP 2020 thread you will get the jist of the questions.

MG44

Uncle Pierre wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not on the Dublin panel either, but am in the top 10 for two other counties, so would expect to be called whenever they get to the regions. That's why I was wondering if somebody in Dublin might put up details of the video interview questions. Might give the culchies like myself here a bit of a jump start.

I just did one video interview last week, for another competition. My advice is to prepare well for 3 questions. I had 3 minutes for each question. I spend 1 min in in overview about my experience in that specific competency and other 2 mins giving an practical example following STAR method. I suggest to practice a lot, I used photoboot on my Mac to record video and phone as well, to see how all that will look and to contain the speech within 3 mins. I kept my notes in the front of me during the real video interview.

daenis123

Buckfast W wrote: »

Yeah it worked out, I find that the numerical tests are a good refresher. At the end of the test it'll tell u how may were right and wrong and when you review your answers it'll tell you what the correct answer is and why.

From your experience of JobTestPrep - as we have already passed the aptitude tests, are they any help for upcoming stage - the video prep??

Lemon drop

Hi, I’m new - never posted before. So like loads of you on here I am through to stage 2 BUT I genuinely put in a form to get practice of the verbal etc. and didn’t expect to do well. Now Stage 2 begins soon and I’m so disappointed with myself has anyone else experienced this?

onlydaughter30

Hi, has anyone experience of doing this shortlisting 3 min video recording shortlisting interview?

are they difficult to pass - or is it a matter of know your competency and being able to answer it?

thanks

onlydaughter30

Lemon drop wrote: »

Hi, I’m new - never posted before. So like loads of you on here I am through to stage 2 BUT I genuinely put in a form to get practice of the verbal etc. and didn’t expect to do well. Now Stage 2 begins soon and I’m so disappointed with myself has anyone else experienced this?

Why are you disappointed? well done... it is good you are through.

Lemon drop

I’m very happy to have got through but wish I’d made more of an effort with the application. Sure I’ll give it a bash, either way it’s all experience.
Good luck to you all this week with the video interviews!

onlydaughter30

Lemon drop wrote: »

I’m very happy to have got through but wish I’d made more of an effort with the application. Sure I’ll give it a bash, either way it’s all experience.
Good luck to you all this week with the video interviews!

you can turn it around now... you still have a shot... just ensure you have good examples going forward or build on what you have already done. The STAR method is what they look for going by past competitions...

I wish you the best of luck, great surprise...

Buckfast W

daenis123 wrote:

From your experience of JobTestPrep - as we have already passed the aptitude tests, are they any help for upcoming stage - the video prep??

Hey, I didn't even think about that. I have a friend who recently became a HEO so they're giving me a bit of a hand. My partner also has a friend who's an AP in HR so they're going to look at my application and tell me if my examples or good enough or what points I should concentrate on. I'm really concentrating on the teamleadership question because if you don't nail that you're Goosed.

Kenevil

Buckfast W wrote: »

Hey, I didn't even think about that. I have a friend who recently became a HEO so they're giving me a bit of a hand. My partner also has a friend who's an AP in HR so they're going to look at my application and tell me if my examples or good enough or what points I should concentrate on. I'm really concentrating on the teamleadership question because if you don't nail that you're Goosed.

Look up the HEO wheel thing on the PAS website. They are the points you have to hit. See where you can incorporate them into your examples.

Kenevil

Kenevil wrote: »

Look up the HEO wheel thing on the PAS website. They are the points you have to hit. See where you can incorporate them into your examples.

This thing sorry

keepkeyyellow

Literally just write out your examples - 500 words is roughly 3 minutes talking so aim for that but bear in mind your speaking time.

And compare the examples the the competencies- It you can’t tick off all of it think about it more and change things around.

Ask your manager what you think good examples would be for each competency.

caarp

I was wondering if anyone knew what this whole process might look like. They've started the video interview presentations for Dublin already. Do they continue with this group until a panel is formed and then start looking at starting video presentations with the regionals, or might they start calling the regionals for video interviews soon enough? Any ideas? I know that this process is different than other competitions since we are all doing it remotely but was wondering if anyone knows, or has an idea of the process? MTIA.

Fifi2804

Kenevil wrote: »

This thing sorry

Thank you that is a great help