Galway to Dublin Autobhan?

pgj2015

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Maybe you just hang out in rougher pubs but I've never heard of people having drink stolen from their table in a pub. More likely the bar staff thought they were gone and just cleared the table.

Maybe at a party or event (wedding etc.) where people are moving around a lot or going from table to table, but I've no idea where you get this notion that people go to pubs to steal unattended pints on a huge scale.

It is common enough in Ireland, especially in student bars/clubs.

ShatterAlan

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Maybe you just hang out in rougher pubs but I've never heard of people having drink stolen from their table in a pub. More likely the bar staff thought they were gone and just cleared the table.

Maybe at a party or event (wedding etc.) where people are moving around a lot or going from table to table, but I've no idea where you get this notion that people go to pubs to steal unattended pints on a huge scale.

I was in a neighbourhood family pub in Marino/Drumcondra a few years ago having a pint. I also had 4 cans of lager in a bag on the floor by my barstool. I got up and went to the jacks and then to the smoking area with my pint. When I returned my bag of cans was gone. I looked over at a booth and there was a man with I'm guessing his son and my bag was there with them. I walked over and simply said "these are mine, if you don't mind", took them and went back to my seat. The guy looked at me sheepishly. Obviously he didn't try to steal them or he would have gotten out of there had he known I was still around. He thought he just scored a bag of cans from someone who had left and forgotten them. Brazen bastard all the same.

alias no.9

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Will they ever upgrade this part?

The road is not the problem, its the lack of a viable non motorway route for traffic not permitted on the motorway.

.anon.

I drive for a living and based on what I see every day, I wouldn't trust people enough to legally allow them to drive at speeds in excess of 120km/h. Far too many men in mid-market German saloon cars with too much confidence and not enough driving ability, incapable of reading the road ahead of them, accelerating angrily towards potential hazards and other people's mistakes, reaching for the horn before the brake.

PhilOssophy

ShatterAlan wrote: »

It's neither self-loathing of the Irish nor praise for the Germans. The German penchant for conformity is something I despise at time as it show them to be automatons. Take for example crossing the road at a pedestrian crossing. You could be there at 4am and not a car in sight and the signal is red and they will stand there like robots until it turns green I just cross when I see that it's safe to do so. I don't need a machine to tell me when I can cross a fcuking road.
In Germany they have machines where you can get a newspaper. You put in the money and take one out.....all the newspapers are there and the Germans just take the one. If that system was available in Ireland people would take all the newspapers out for the price of one and try to sell them. It's just a fact.


And our bailout of the banks wasn't necessarily the fault of the Irish despicable as it was.. IT was done under threat from Timothy Geithner. Granted we could have grown a pair and told him to FOAD like the Icelanders did but we didn't unfortunately.

In Berlin if I remember correctly they now have the traffic lights flashing in all directions (including pedestrians) in the middle of the night. I think a pedestrian can press the button if they can't cross.

But the other thing - if a speed limit is added to an Autobahn (and there are vast sections of them with speed limites), the Germans will totally slow down for it to the very speed.

One other thing, and I think this is where the autobahn slips up - the enormous increase in carbon emissions due to no speed limits.

glasso

glasso wrote: »

Good book actually.

Brandenburg Airport?

smellyoldboot

Lads I'm on the road legally only a week now and most of the driving has been only around town. From what I've seen over that week, we will never and should never an autobahn or anything like it. Some absolutely appalling drivers out there. I'd say most of them think they are brilliant too.

PhilOssophy

Deleted User wrote: »

Brandenburg Airport?

Give another few examples, instead of picking 1 clusterfk compared to our plethora is clusterfks like the Childrens Hospital, e-voting machines, we couldn't even install a printer in the Dail without it costing hundreds of thousands more than planned.

Galwayguy35

A better idea would be to ban old people from driving on motorways.

Muahahaha

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Lads I'm on the road legally only a week now and most of the driving has been only around town. From what I've seen over that week, we will never and should never an autobahn or anything like it. Some absolutely appalling drivers out there. I'd say most of them think they are brilliant too.

The state of Irish driving has gone rapidly down hill in the last 10 years or so. It was bad enough during the Tiger years with people thinking their journey is more important than anyone elses. But then the crash happened and the first thing in the Gardai to get cut was the traffic corps. Suddenly there was next to no enforcement of the rules of the road and as people saw there was no consequences all sorts of bad habits crept in and then spread among more and more drivers.

Breaking of red lights became commonplace as people see you always get away with it. At this stage on a roundabout I can look ahead and behind me and I'll be the only one using my indicators, it really has gone to pot. I remember there was a poster on here who said they purposely dont use their indicators on roundabouts because they enjoy pissing other drivers off, thats the kind of meatheads youre dealing with on the roads plus theyre getting away with it all the time.

Strumms

Agree with the above. You only have to take a relatively short journey say 5 km round trip now and there is probably one instance per kilometer of complete dangerous jerkary that you have to interact with...

Nobody seems to have a fûcking notion as to how to use a roundabout.

The speed limit is suggestive to some rather then a limit.

A red traffic light the same.

People who need / want to change lanes ermmmmm ...I’m pretty sure you need wait for a gap asshole...

smellyoldboot

Muahahaha wrote: »

The state of Irish driving has gone rapidly down hill in the last 10 years or so. It was bad enough during the Tiger years with people thinking their journey is more important than anyone elses. But then the crash happened and the first thing in the Gardai to get cut was the traffic corps. Suddenly there was next to no enforcement of the rules of the road and as people saw there was no consequences all sorts of bad habits crept in and then spread among more and more drivers.

Breaking of red lights became commonplace as people see you always get away with it. At this stage on a roundabout I can look ahead and behind me and I'll be the only one using my indicators, it really has gone to pot. I remember there was a poster on here who said they purposely dont use their indicators on roundabouts because they enjoy pissing other drivers off, thats the kind of meatheads youre dealing with on the roads plus theyre getting away with it all the time.

I was overtaken at the entrance to a busy roundabout yesterday on a road with a 50 km/h speed limit. I could see the cars approaching from the right, was waiting to enter when this arsehole flew by me to the right from behind, forced his way in front of oncoming traffic and on through the roundabout. I'm still amazed of the whimsical level of not giving a **** that was present. Should be off the road but will plough on until he ploughs into someone. That was probably the worst but not the only sketchy incident. We're nowhere near civilised enough for autobahns. I'd say we're closer to current limits being reduced and having cameras installed everywhere.

o1s1n

o1s1n wrote: »

Youtube autobahn crashes to see how 'disciplined' Germans are.

There's a lot of 'new' Germans these days who drive like idiots. Lot of native Germans drive like idiots too, having said that.

I think it could be worth piloting. Pick a 10 or 20km stretch with no exits. Give it a year and see how it works. If all hell breaks loose after a year we bin it. Do public ad campaigns and tell people what they need to be thinking about when driving there.

AndyBoBandy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do public ad campaigns and tell people what they need to be thinking about when driving there.

I think we need public ad campaigns to tell people how they need to drive on the motorways we currently have.... never mind proposed new ‘autobahn’ sections.


3 lane motorways are the worst thing Irish drivers were given in the last 10-15 years....

cannotlogin

That motorway is notorious for speeding already.

CrabRevolution

CrabRevolution wrote: »

German style speed limits are like Swiss style referendums in that people claim we're backwards for not copying them, but they also can't name a 2nd example of a country who has adopted them.

If it's such an inarguably great idea, why has not one other country on earth adopted it?

When the first motorway was opened in the UK, it did not have a speed limit.
After a series of high speed crashes, they introduced the 70mph limit. Parts of Australia don't have speed limits as the roads are so empty and the distances are so vast, that going fast can cut hours off the journey time.

beggars_bush

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

A better idea would be to ban old people from driving on motorways.

Minimum speed limits would be safer

Mimon

Strumms wrote: »

Agree with the above. You only have to take a relatively short journey say 5 km round trip now and there is probably one instance per kilometer of complete dangerous jerkary that you have to interact with...

Nobody seems to have a fûcking notion as to how to use a roundabout.

The speed limit is suggestive to some rather then a limit.

A red traffic light the same.

People who need / want to change lanes ermmmmm ...I’m pretty sure you need wait for a gap asshole...

You can really see how many stupid/selfish people there are out there when you regularly drive on the motorways.

The latest one for me seems to be pulling out into the overtaking lane just as I'm approaching causing me to brake.

When I'm in the same situation I will use my mirrors and if I will end up causing someone to slow I will wait until they pass before I move out.

It really isn't that difficult.

NSAman

Difference between autobahn and Ireland is the quality of the cars also.

Seamus thinking he can go 200 kmph in a 1ltr Micra...

It IS fun to drive an autobahn. There are speed limits in many places and rightly so.

Ireland’s road while speed limits should be increased imho on SOME roads should remain for the most part.

I cannot understand how ring of Kerry is 100 kmph for the most part, but roads which are dual carriageway ways around Kildare and Dublin are 50-80kmph...makes no sense.

Here in the states the flow of traffic is taken into consideration. I90 is 70mph now, most do 80mph but in Chicago it can be 90mph without being stopped by police. If the traffic is all doing it, you have to keep up to avoid slow drivers causing accidents. ... oh yeah... we also have minimum speed limits too here.

.anon.

Strumms wrote: »

Nobody seems to have a fûcking notion as to how to use a roundabout.

The worst offenders in that respect are the ones who think they know how to use a roundabout, but don't realise that you're not supposed to accelerate aggressively into it, totally oblivious of any potential hazards.

A lot of drivers (mainly male ones) have a dangerously territorial attitude towards driving. Obsessed with priority, not allowing traffic to merge (because I got here first), not allowing buses to pull out from bus stops and accelerating to prevent a bus from getting in front of them, accelerating into roundabouts and then jamming on the brakes and blasting the horn when someone misjudges their speed and emerges in front of them.

ILoveYourVibes

galway_lad wrote: »

Around about this time of year, I'd often find myself "driving home for Christmas" (ha!) along the Dublin to Galway motorway. I was thinking, should we copy the German system and have no speed limits on sections where it makes sense? Most of that road is fine for much higher speeds than allowed for.

Also it could link the two sides of the country in a more meaningful way. I do know people who often commute from county Galway to Dublin, imagine if we made it much easier. It would alleviate the housing crisis in the capital, and be more fun.

I'm sure other sections around the country could do likewise. Seems like a winner to me?

I don't trust irish intelligence enough for this.

Im irish myself ....and i have to be honest ..my first reaction was ...we are too thick to be trusted with this.