COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

KrustyUCC

Stheno wrote: »

Pfizer will cover all HCW and nursing homes by March

We get either 880000 or 1.6 million doses of Moderna, that will probably be rolled out to over 80s and then over 70s, I think they are groups 3 and 4

Hopefully we will get working on vaccinating a high percentage of groups 3 & 4 asap

Be great to have nursing homes, HCW and good percentage of over 80s and 70s done

Would give the government more flexibility with restrictions on the rest of society

Cork2021

Stheno wrote: »

EMA are waiting on more data apparently

It would make you wonder are AstraZeneca slowing the process to get more doses to the Uk or they don’t have production at full tilt in Europe

nocoverart

Any chance of Home Carers getting pushed up the list? was shocked that Home Carers weren't considered higher up in all of this. Kind of disgusting really.

salmocab

nocoverart wrote: »

Any chance of Home Carers getting pushed up the list? was shocked that Home Carers weren't considered higher up in all of this. Kind of disgusting really.

I think whilst there are certainly people who should be higher up the list the reality is that lots can make an argument whilst they should be higher. Lone parents for example. Everyone that goes up the list pushes someone down.

XsApollo

I’d like to see a vaccine kept for a group until the group is finished.
Example say Pfizer for nursing homes and HCW , now that Moderna is approved maybe start using that for the next group only until they are done .
When Pfizer is finished with the first group move onto the next.
At least until all the vulnerable groups are done.
Will add consistency and timelines to rollout.
Can only imagine Pfizer being given instead of Moderna if there are vials of the stuff floating around.
And Probably better for tracing and monitoring afterwards or long term monitoring for reactions or issues that could arise from the vaccine.

The younger healthy groups it will be a free for all with regards to which vaccine is on offer at the time.

They probably have this already announced or what I dunno.

But great news we are moving, we won’t be fastest but we won’t be the worst either and I am happy with that.

Working class heroes

hynesie08 wrote: »

Cool, is it to early for a whisky to celebrate?

Whiskey:)

Harry Palmr

Pfizer and Moderna will be the sharp end vaccines and A/Z the mass inoculation jab for under 50/60s I'd say

dominatinMC

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Hopefully we will get working on vaccinating a high percentage of groups 3 & 4 asap

Be great to have nursing homes, HCW and good percentage of over 80s and 70s done

Would give the government more flexibility with restrictions on the rest of society

Exactly. Things can only get better from here (can't get much worse...can they :pac:). With the most vulnerable in society vaccinated (notwithstanding those who can't take the vaccine due to health issues) it should be a case of a slow gradual reopening during the year. I think we can all accept that some restrictions will remain in place until the mass vaccination program is complete, but we should now be moving forwards all the time, instead of one step forward and two backwards!

is_that_so

salmocab wrote: »

What sort of timeline and numbers is expected on this? Great news.

The Moderna order is 30% of Pfizer at 80m and about 53% of 160m so weekly that might be about 13K or 21K, based on current deliveries. I had 12K-15k in my head for it. I'm going to say next Monday start! Remember it's 28 days between shots for this one.

Stheno

is_that_so wrote: »

The Moderna order is 30% of Pfizer at 80m and about 53% of 160m so weekly that might be about 13K or 21K, based on current deliveries. I'm going to say next Monday start!

The Leak has spoken. 10k extra people per week

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1346805480971239426?s=19

hynesie08

Working class heroes wrote: »

Whiskey:)

Twas a glenmorangie, I stand by my spelling...

hotmail.com

Stheno wrote: »

The Leak has spoken. 10k extra people per week

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1346805480971239426?s=19

10k per week is still really pathetic.

is_that_so

hotmail.com wrote: »

10k per week is still really pathetic.

It's our quota and that makes 50K a week. This is how it'll probably be till March.

is_that_so

Stheno wrote: »

The Leak has spoken. 10k extra people per week

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1346805480971239426?s=19

So that must be using 80m as a total.

Sweet.Science

Surely if we do manage to vaccinate 50k a week (have my doubts) it will make a difference considering we are such a small country ?

hotmail.com

Is the government going to source vaccines from the Oxford one?

Or is our government incapable of requesting the vaccines on our own?

Harry Palmr

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Surely if we do manage to vaccinate 50k a week (have my doubts) it will make a difference considering we are such a small country ?

It'll make a difference of 50k a week! Hopefully. Get the hospitals, nursing homes and medically high risk groups done and we can start to think about level 2 as the standard - still all the masks indoors, washing, distancing but no lockdowns.

That said travel needs a complete reassessment for me - tests tests tests and a proper ROI/NI protocol for same.

is_that_so

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is the government going to source vaccines from the Oxford one?

Or is our government incapable of requesting the vaccines on our own?

The EU have an agreement with them. Nobody in the EU will get any until it's approved, which could be weeks.

hotmail.com

is_that_so wrote: »

The EU have an agreement with them. Nobody in the EU will get any until it's approved, which could be weeks.

My question is why can't we just do our own thing. The EU vaccine programme is clearly not fast enough.

KrustyUCC

hotmail.com wrote: »

10k per week is still really pathetic.

It doesn't seem like a lot but it will all add up

Martin said we will have 135,000 full vaccinated by end of February but that's with Pfeizer alone afaik

10,000 does per week additional now will add up

You should have 170,000 fully vaccinated by early March now

bennyineire

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Surely if we do manage to vaccinate 50k a week (have my doubts) it will make a difference considering we are such a small country ?

600K by the end of March, this doesn't include Oxford so in February the numbers will be revised up again.

By end of April we could be looking at near 1 million done

AdamD

Stheno wrote: »

The Leak has spoken. 10k extra people per week

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1346805480971239426?s=19

The approval is good news but this just confirms that Oxford really is the important one

hynesie08

hotmail.com wrote: »

My question is why can't we just do our own thing. The EU vaccine programme is clearly not fast enough.

And when do you think we would receive those?

KrustyUCC

hotmail.com wrote: »

My question is why can't we just do our own thing. The EU vaccine programme is clearly not fast enough.

We could but we won't break ranks with the rest of Europe

is_that_so

hotmail.com wrote: »

My question is why can't we just do our own thing. The EU vaccine programme is clearly not fast enough.

Nobody is "fast enough" but that's a supply issue. The EU did the deals and we're taking their supply.

hotmail.com

hynesie08 wrote: »

And when do you think we would receive those?

I'm certain the UK will assist their nearest neighbour if we requested some of the vaccines.

D.Q

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'm certain the UK will assist their nearest neighbour if we requested some of the vaccines.

Moronic take.

ShyMets

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'm certain the UK will assist their nearest neighbour if we requested some of the vaccines.

No they wont.

is_that_so

bennyineire wrote: »

600K by the end of March, this doesn't include Oxford so in February the numbers will be revised up again.

By end of April we could be looking at near 1 million done

Donnelly, before Christmas, suggested 1m by March.

hotmail.com

bennyineire wrote: »

600K by the end of March, this doesn't include Oxford so in February the numbers will be revised up again.

By end of April we could be looking at near 1 million done

That's still only one fifth of the population.

Completely unacceptable. The aim should be to have 80% of the population vaccinated by May or June.

Convert car parks into vaccine centres, employ retired nurses and anyone else etc. Everything thrown at it.